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#1. Re: [E36M3] [E36] Two annoying sounds/vibrations coming from engine bay. - from DocWyte
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Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:13:05 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] [E36] Two annoying sounds/vibrations coming from engine bay. Jesse, I have no idea what the cold noise is, maybe a bad motor mount? But the hot problem sound like alternator noise that you usually get when you put in a sound system. Check all the wiring connections to the alternator very carefully, particularly the ground... -josh --- Jesse Chamberlain <JChamberlain@mapletree.com> wrote: > Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:54:01 -0400 > From: Jesse Chamberlain <JChamberlain@mapletree.com> > Subject: [E36] Two annoying sounds/vibrations coming > from engine bay. > > I have a 93 E36 325i with 136K on it. (I know this > is a E36 M3 message > board, but since this might pertain to all > variations of the M50/52 S50/52 > engines, I thought it would be ok to send it to the > list). > > I need some help tracking down two different weird > sounds/vibrations coming > from the engine bay of my 93 325i sedan (manual, > 136K). I am thinking > that these two sounds are related, but... read on... > > The first one is when the car is cold, after sitting > for a few hours or > overnight. Its more of a vibration and "seems" to > be coming from the left > side of the engine/engine bay. As I turn more > accessories on, the vibration > gets worse and louder. I had originally thought it > was the Alternator > because of this, but I have replaced it (for other > reasons) and the problem > is still here. The vibration also seems to be > dependent on the temperature > outside as well. If the temp is cold outside, the > sound/vibration is loud, > and when warm, the sound/vibration is less. It also > gets worse when I first > start off, and put the car in gear (manual), till > about 2.5K rpms, then the > vibration seems to go away for the rest of the RPM > range. This vibration > last for about 10 minutes after starting the car, > until the car starts to > warm up. Then it either goes away or is VERY faint. > Any Ideas? > > The second sound is a high pitched whining sound > coming from the engine, > which also seems like its coming from the same > location, left side of the > engine/engine bay. This only happens when the > engine is hot, and have been > driving for about 40 minutes or more. When at its > worse, you can hear the > whining sound when the car is idling, but gets > louder when the car is rev'd > up. This also seems to be dependent on the temp > outside, usually happens > when its about 60degrees outside or more. Lately, > since its been about 55 > degrees outside, I haven't heard it. But a few days > ago as the temps > reached about 62 outside, and I was driving my car > hard, I heard it again. > > I have been trying to track these problems down > since the beginning of > summer. I am thinking that these two problems are > related, so if I fix one, > it might fix the other. I have replaced both belts, > both tensioner pulleys > and the main belt tensioner, replaced the idler > puller and I just replaced > the alternator last weekend (unrelated, it was dying > anyways with 136K, > would show 13.3V on the OBC). About 2 years ago I > had the waterpump > replaced. Last year I also had my clutch replaced > and the rear main seal of > the engine was replaced. > > I am starting to run out of ideas. Could it be a > leak in the intake > manifold? How about a leak in the exhaust manifold? > Could it be related to > the power-steering at all? Could my waterpump be > dying AGAIN (the BMW > dealer replaced it, yep I got taken to the cleaners > on that one, first and > last time I brought my car to the dealer..dont > really trust them..)? If any > one has any ideas, it would be greatly appreciated!! > I am getting ready to > park my car for the winter, so I will have some time > to work on it as it > wont be my main car. > > Thanks for any help. This is a great list and enjoy > reading all the post. > (even though I don't have an M3 yet... going to be > my next car.) > > Jesse Chamberlain > 93 325i with stuff.. > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message to the email address > e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > ===== Josh Wyte Momentum Motorsports 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
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#2. FS: E36 M3 stock class racer - from Mel Myers
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:44:12 -0500 From: Mel Myers <melmyers76@netscape.net> Subject: FS: E36 M3 stock class racer Check out my car at the following address, which I regret is now for sale. http://members.roadfly.com/melmyers12/for_sale.html I will be continually updating the page with links to more photos and some in car videos. Asking price is $28,000 USD. This thing is FAST. If you want to win races or smoke people at driver's schools, then this is the car for you. This car has the most developed suspension of any stock class racer in the country with it's BimmerWorld developed setup. The motor is strong and pulls hard with it's custom dyno tuned software. I think the lap times speak for themselves. Also for sale will be my 18 foot open steel trailer and 1999 Yukon w/ 93k miles. This is truly a special car, and I hate to have to part with it. Please contact me if you have any questions. Thanks, Mel Myers melmyers76@netscape.net (434) 851-5414
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#3. cracked rear shock tower - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 08:44:48 -0400 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: cracked rear shock tower Well, I think I finally found out where that suspension clunk was coming = from. Quick history: 95' m3 86k miles. STOCK. (except exhaust) maybe original shocks replaced rear trailing arm bushings about a year ago (and the year = before) DIY replacement of shock tower mounts about 1.5 years ago (old ones = looked okay) Tracked a few times, driven enthusiastically most of the time. Crack! tinkle tinkle. One of the bolts on the passengers side shock = ripped off a chunk of the body. As I was driving back from the coast, = decided to shim it up with some pieces of pressed fiber board I had. = Wack! The other bolt actually ripped through the hole of the sheet = metal a few miles later. ouch. 150 miles later of excruciating noise and horrible handling, the car is = at the shop. Looked on the archives for the Z3 plates part numbers. Has anyone tried = welding these on over the cracked or damaged holes? HELP! And I'm assuming that the E46 RSM are direct replacements. Here's some advice for 95 m3 owners. Do some preventative maintenance. = Weld those Z3 plates on there! -Jonathan
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#4. cracked rear shock tower - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 08:51:53 -0400 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: cracked rear shock tower Well, I think I finally found out where that suspension clunk was coming = from. Quick history: 95' m3 86k miles. STOCK. (except exhaust) maybe original shocks replaced rear trailing arm bushings about a year ago (and the year = before) DIY replacement of shock tower mounts about 1.5 years ago (old ones = looked okay) Tracked a few times, driven enthusiastically most of the time. Crack! tinkle tinkle. One of the bolts on the passengers side shock = ripped off a chunk of the body. As I was driving back from the coast, = decided to shim it up with some pieces of pressed fiber board I had. = Wack! The other bolt actually ripped through the hole of the sheet = metal a few miles later. ouch. 150 miles later of excruciating noise and horrible handling, the car is = at the shop. Looked on the archives for the Z3 plates part numbers. Has anyone tried = welding these on over the cracked or damaged holes? HELP! And I'm assuming that the E46 RSM are direct replacements. Here's some advice for 95 m3 owners. Do some preventative maintenance. = Weld those Z3 plates on there! -Jonathan
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#5. cracked rear shock tower - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 08:51:34 -0400 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: cracked rear shock tower Well, I think I finally found out where that suspension clunk was coming = from. Quick history: 95' m3 86k miles. STOCK. (except exhaust) maybe original shocks replaced rear trailing arm bushings about a year ago (and the year = before) DIY replacement of shock tower mounts about 1.5 years ago (old ones = looked okay) Tracked a few times, driven enthusiastically most of the time. Crack! tinkle tinkle. One of the bolts on the passengers side shock = ripped off a chunk of the body. As I was driving back from the coast, = decided to shim it up with some pieces of pressed fiber board I had. = Wack! The other bolt actually ripped through the hole of the sheet = metal a few miles later. ouch. 150 miles later of excruciating noise and horrible handling, the car is = at the shop. Looked on the archives for the Z3 plates part numbers. Has anyone tried = welding these on over the cracked or damaged holes? HELP! And I'm assuming that the E46 RSM are direct replacements. Here's some advice for 95 m3 owners. Do some preventative maintenance. = Weld those Z3 plates on there! -Jonathan
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#6. Review of Koni's and TC Kline RSM's - from DocWyte
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 06:18:50 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Review of Koni's and TC Kline RSM's Well, I've had the koni's on my '95 M3 for a few days now. I went with the stock springs and TC Kline rear shock mounts, as well as the "new" externally adjustable rear shocks. No more dropping the shocks out to adjust them!! I really like the ride and handling. I have them set at full soft right now and it's a stock quality ride and handling. Once I crank them up, handling definately improves. I've had no problems with the TC Kline rear mounts. No clunking, no road noise, no nothing. Very happy with them. The rear shocks are pretty cool, but you have to drop the rear speakers out to get at the top of the shock to adjust it. Still easier than pulling the shock out completely, but I was hoping to have access tot he top of the shock from the side of the shock tower. Unfortunately there isn't enough room to fit the knob in there that way. All in all, I'm very pleased with the setup. -josh ===== Josh Wyte Momentum Motorsports 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
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#7. rear shock tower repair - from dholeman
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:02:43 -0400 From: "dholeman" <dholeman@racepad.com> Subject: rear shock tower repair Hi, I need to reinforce my rear shock towers and I think I heard somewhere that BMW has a repair part that body shops can used to weld under or over or both to sandwich the rear shock tower. Has anyone else heard of these and can advise on how to install and if so know what parts (part numbers) are involved? David Holeman
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#8. Re: [E36M3] cracked rear shock tower - from steve_tymoszuk@compuserve.com
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:04:12 -0400 From: "steve_tymoszuk@compuserve.com" <steve_tymoszuk@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] cracked rear shock tower Hey Jonathan, >DIY replacement of shock tower mounts about 1.5 years ago (old ones = >looked okay) > > When you replaced the shock mounts, what did you replace the original rear shock mounts with? -Steve
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#9. Re: [E36M3] rear shock tower repair - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 07:13:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] rear shock tower repair Are you talking about the area in the immediate vicinity of the rear shock mounts? I do know they make sheet metal inserts that are probably meant to replace the existing one (you cut out the old one), but I don't see why you can't sandwich the stuff: 41 14 8 169 027 - left 41 14 8 169 028 - right Chester Luckily, that was one area that didn't need replacing on my car --- dholeman <dholeman@racepad.com> wrote: > I need to reinforce my rear shock towers and I think I heard somewhere that > BMW has a repair part that body shops can used to weld under or over or both > to sandwich the rear shock tower. Has anyone else heard of these and can > advise on how to install and if so know what parts (part numbers) are > involved? ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
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#10. Re: [E36M3] cracked rear shock tower - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:20:11 -0400 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] cracked rear shock tower Should have mentioned that I replaced them with stock E36 shock mounts, as far as I know (whatever the parts guy at the dealer gave me when I described the part and car). Looked the same as the ones I took out. -Jonathan ----- Original Message ----- From: <steve_tymoszuk@compuserve.com> To: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Cc: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] cracked rear shock tower > Hey Jonathan, > > > >DIY replacement of shock tower mounts about 1.5 years ago (old ones = > >looked okay) > > > > > > When you replaced the shock mounts, what did you replace the original > rear shock mounts with? > > -Steve >