E36M3 #2691

Thursday, October 17, 2002 19:55:07

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Shifter resting under 5th - from Bill
#2. Re: [E36M3] Winter Tires - from Paul Elliott
#3. Opinions on StopTechs' big brake system? - from BOOM,BILL (HP-Roseville,ex1)
#4. Re: shifter sticking - from butchberney@attbi.com
#5. Winter Rims and Tires FS in NorCal - from Dorffer, Rich
#6. JC euro hfm intake install story... - from DocWyte
#7. FS: H&R 5mm spacer and free oil filter - from Jay Lee
#8. Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from Wen Liew
#9. Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from Jim Bassett
#10. Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from Wen Liew
#11. Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from Ed Yee

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#1. Shifter resting under 5th - from Bill
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:17:33 -0700 From: Bill <bill@screamingfist.com> Subject: Shifter resting under 5th Regarding the issue of the shifter sitting at rest under 5th in the cold weather; as the temps drop here in North America, there are apparently a *lot* of people affected by this. I'm in this boat, too. I only get in this state if I shift into 5th while the tranny's cold. (Mind, I live in Santa Cruz, so "cold" is around 50F.) After things warm up a while (say, 15 minutes at 3000RPM) behavior returns to normal. I've tried a number of different tranny fluids to no avail. All I can do is avoid 5th for the first half of my commute. Grrrrrrr. Anyone have any bright ideas? Thanks, Bill

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Winter Tires - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:32:48 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Winter Tires Have you compared the surveys for the two tires? Look..I know about all the rationale you put on it. Despite that, most people feel the all season Pilot Sports deliver as well as the Summer versions. Theory is theory, but this is based on people experiences with both. >>For a car enthusiast who has spent so much money on a performance machine such as a BMW M3, it's a tradeoff that simply doesn't make sense to me. << I hear you. And Ive always felt like you did. But again, read the surveys. They turned my head around...And the respondents arent just a bunch of jerks who accept anything they ride on as being good. There are plenty of tires that are rated really poorly. So you cant say they arent discriminating. But when the respondents are telling me their dry traction is on a par with the reg. pilot sports, and their winter traction is only a single point or less behind the dedicated winter tires, and way ahead of all the other all seasons WRT winter traction, I think a new attitude is called for when considering them. Paul Elliott --------------------------------------------------------- '99 White M3; 45K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Aquamist Water/Methanol Injection; Fikse FM-10s; X-Brace; Dinan Koni Suspension; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Papademetrious" <chrispy@ieee.org> To: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Cc: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Winter Tires > At 02:44 PM 10/17/2002 -0500, Paul Elliott wrote: > >Im sure many of you are so ingrained on the idea that all seasons suck, but > >just take a look at the reader's surveys on TR. Most people like these > >better, or, at least as much, as the regular Pilot Sports. Have tire mfgs > >really finally turned the corner on the ability to really make decent All > >Seasons? > > All-seasons suck. It's a simple fact of science that compromises will be > made to design a tire for both drastic condition extremes. Personally, > I've never understood the resistance to having killer Z-rated summer > rubber, and dedicated winter rubber. Cost is not an effective argument, > since you are still only wearing the rubber off one set of tires at a > time. You are now using two sets of tires which both last twice as long. > > When the local roads were covered with frozen snow and slush, my friend > could never make it up the hill to my house with his premium Dunlop > all-seasons - it's both very steep and very curvy. Once I convinced him to > get snow tires, he's been able to drive right up it every time, no matter > how bad the conditions were. And, he remarks at how much better his > handling is with the summer tires than with the all-seasons. > > In my mind, all-seasons are fine for people who live in flat areas, don't > drive much, and don't have a garage handy to keep the extra wheels/tires > around. For a car enthusiast who has spent so much money on a performance > machine such as a BMW M3, it's a tradeoff that simply doesn't make sense to > me. But then, I'm biased from living in the eastern ski region of > Pennsylvania. Even the cheapest junker car here will have true snow tires > in the winter. > > - Chris > > > >

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#3. Opinions on StopTechs' big brake system? - from BOOM,BILL (HP-Roseville,ex1)
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:36:32 -0400 From: "BOOM,BILL (HP-Roseville,ex1)" <bill_boom@hp.com> Subject: Opinions on StopTechs' big brake system? I'm considering StopTech's kit for my E36 M3 and was wondering if any users of that setup would care to share their opinions. Was fade totally eliminated? How fast do you go through pads/rotors? TIA, - Bill

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#4. Re: shifter sticking - from butchberney@attbi.com
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:51:54 +0000 From: butchberney@attbi.com Subject: Re: shifter sticking I have read on the various boards and lists of at least 10 people that have reported this problem. The symptoms are the same in every case. These are the things that seem to be common in each case: 5th gear "gate" loses spring tension More prevalent when the car is cold or the weather is cold Goes back to normal when the car warms up The only thing that is not common to each person, is that it happens to both ZF (M3, 328) and Getrag (325, 318) transmissions. Unfortunately, I do not think there is anything that can be done to fix it without taking the transmission out, and even then, I am not sure what the repair would be. *Fortunately* the problem is intermittant, and temporary in every case that I have heard of. There are so many things that I love about my car, that I am willing to put up with a "quirk" or two like this one. C'est la vie... Butch ------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:26:02 -0400 From: "Gary A. Preece" <gapreece@entreky.net> Subject: shifter sticking My shifter is sticking when it is pushed over to go into 5th gear...

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#5. Winter Rims and Tires FS in NorCal - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:00:20 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Winter Rims and Tires FS in NorCal Scott says > > PS if anyone has any tips on shipping a wheel/tire > combo, could you forward 'em to me? Thanks! Yes, cover the wheel faces with some thick cardboard and make sure it is properly secured. The tire doesn't really need any protection, just the face of the wheels. Typically it is most cost effective to tape two wheel/tires together (due to size restrictions mainly as opposed to weight restrictions) so that you will have two sets to ship separately (upper weight limit with UPS is 150 lbs). If the face of the wheels permit, you may want to bind them together so the wheel faces are towards each other, otherwise, they will have to be on the outside so be sure to have them properly covered with cardboard. Tire Rack frequently ships this way. I have never shipped wheels and tires together personally but I have seen it done. When shipping tires only, it is almost always more cost effective to ship two together. Therefore, if you have four tires, ship two and two. If you have three, ship two and one. Efforts to ship more than two together results in triggering the size restrictions and is not cost effective. Regards, Rich

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#6. JC euro hfm intake install story... - from DocWyte
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:14:23 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: JC euro hfm intake install story... OK, So I finally get the necessary chip to install this intake on my '95 M3. (Stock motor wise except for a cat back Borla exhaust) Since it rained all day yesterday I had to impatiently wait until today after work to put it in. So I gather up all the necessary tools and parts and go outside with Molly, my 8 year old yellow lab. Put the parts box on the ground next to the car and pop the hood. Molly is busy investigating the yard and romping after squirrels. I pull out the factory airbox and hfm in short order and try to fit the heat shield in place. When they say that the front of the heat shield may need some coaxing into place they weren't kidding! Molly is now busy investigating the neighbors back yard. Can't have that, call her over and put her on her long leash attached to the tree so she can still come over and hang out with me. Finally get the heat shield into place and put the hfm/hose assembly in place. Start tightening everything down, then I realize I have the hose connector for the filter on backwards. Uh, unless I'm planning on cutting a hole in the hood, the filter isn't going to fit this way Beavis... Loosen everything up, turn the hose around, then retighten everything. Then I attempt to put the two screws back in that go along the leading edge of the heat sheild and attach it to the radiator. Require some finesse my ass! I spent close to 15 minutes trying to get those little things in there! Finally got the top one, then I dropped the bottom one onto the splash tray. Grrr.... Magnet on a stick to the rescue. If you don't have one of these, go out and buy one NOW! Just couldn't get the lower screw in place. Oh well. While I'm playing around with this lower screw I hear Molly chewing on something. Uhhhh, what is that little black thing she has. CRAP!! It's the box that my chip is in!!! MOLLY!!! Grab the box/chip from her, luckily she'd just gnawed on the corner of the box. Scold Molly, she looks appropriately guilty and continue with the install. Put the filter on, reattach the cruise control and go to pull out the ecu. Hmm, what's this duct tape? Take the ecu inside and evidently a previous owner of the car had installed a chip at one point. 5 of the 6 ecu clips were broken, hence the duct tape. Great... Install the chip and toss the ecu back in the car. Say a prayer and turn the key. Vrooommm!! Woohoo!! Molly barks her approval. I take the car out for a test spin. Man, does this intake sound mean when you're hammering! Car hits triple digits in a hurry now. Good thing I have the V1 hardwired in! :-) -josh ===== Josh Wyte Momentum Motorsports 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com

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#7. FS: H&R 5mm spacer and free oil filter - from Jay Lee
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:34:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Lee <joong@yahoo.com> Subject: FS: H&R 5mm spacer and free oil filter $30 - Pair of H&R 5mm spacers fits all 3-series. Used but in perfectly functional condition. Sells for $50 from Turner. Will throw in a free original BMW oil filter. Located in SF Bay Area. Email me at joong@yahoo.com. Thanks Jay __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com

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#8. Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from Wen Liew
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:58:49 -0700 From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> Subject: Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question The clowns at my local tire store mounted the MXX3s inconsistently. The problem is, there is no arrow on the sidewall and I don't remember which pattern is correct. Pattern 1 Pattern 2 Top of sidewall ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Bottom of sidewall Direction of rotation --------> --------> My instinct tells me the correct pattern should be 2. Thanks. Wen _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:12:46 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question At 05:04 PM 10/17/02, Wen Liew wrote: >The clowns at my local tire store mounted the MXX3s inconsistently. The >problem is, there is no arrow on the sidewall and I don't remember which >pattern is correct. Didn't quite understand the "pattern" thing, sorry. >Direction of rotation >--------> --------> > >My instinct tells me the correct pattern should be 2. Thanks. As long as the "Direction of Rotation" arrows are correct (i.e. point in the direction of rotation :-)), you're fine. Cheers, Jim Bassett - master of the obvious :-)

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from Wen Liew
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:47:37 -0700 From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question Group, Sorry for not being clearer. The tires do not have the directional arrow stamped on the sidewall, otherwise, it would have been obvious, DOH ;) They have the 3 parallelogramized lines aka pattern thingy. Wen >From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> >To: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com>,E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question >Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:12:46 -0700 > >At 05:04 PM 10/17/02, Wen Liew wrote: >>The clowns at my local tire store mounted the MXX3s inconsistently. The >>problem is, there is no arrow on the sidewall and I don't remember which >>pattern is correct. > >Didn't quite understand the "pattern" thing, sorry. > >>Direction of rotation >>--------> --------> >> >>My instinct tells me the correct pattern should be 2. Thanks. > >As long as the "Direction of Rotation" arrows are correct (i.e. point in >the direction of rotation :-)), you're fine. > >Cheers, >Jim Bassett - master of the obvious :-) _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.  Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp

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#11. Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from Ed Yee
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:51:37 -0400 From: "Ed Yee" <edyee@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question If you are talking about Pilot MXX3 as were OEM on most M3's, these are NON directional tires. These don't even have a preferred inside or an outside like some non directional, asymmetric tread tires. The newer Pilot Sports are directional. The ContiSportContacts are an example of non directional asymmetric tread tires. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:04 PM Subject: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:58:49 -0700 > From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> > Subject: Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question > > The clowns at my local tire store mounted the MXX3s inconsistently. The > problem is, there is no arrow on the sidewall and I don't remember which > pattern is correct. > > Pattern 1 Pattern 2 > > Top of sidewall > ----- ----- > ----- ----- > ----- ----- > Bottom of sidewall > > Direction of rotation > --------> --------> > > My instinct tells me the correct pattern should be 2. Thanks. > > Wen > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > >

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