E36M3 #2693

Friday, October 18, 2002 10:35:50

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Koni SA settings and adjustments - from Chris Teague
#2. Re: [E36M3] Turn Signal Question - from Reid Conti
#3. RE: shifter sticking - from Butch Berney
#4. Winter Tires - from Dorffer, Rich
#5. Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from Dorffer, Rich
#6. Re: Upcoming work on the M3 - from Jay W. Hudson
#7. Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
#8. RE: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from Dorffer, Rich
#9. Re: [E36M3] Koni SA settings and adjustments - from john_stoj@excite.com
#10. Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from Dave Kelley

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Koni SA settings and adjustments - from Chris Teague
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 22:02:38 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Koni SA settings and adjustments Bob, For AutoX use with stock springs, I think the rears need to be full stiff. That's what worked best for me, and I won the SCCA AS championship last year in San Diego with that setting. I ran the fronts from 0.5 to 1.0 turn from soft. Chris 97 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- > BTW: After last Sunday's autox I'd love to hear back from people with Koni's > and stock springs and what they feel is the best setting for rebound? Had a > couple 180 degree spins which I blame on my Koni settings since this is the > last change I've made to the car. > > Bob Gill

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Turn Signal Question - from Reid Conti
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 22:27:19 -0700 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Turn Signal Question Your M3 does not have this. Not sure why it's in the manual. It's a euro-only feature that takes time and $$ to install.. I want it, but think it's more trouble than it's worth.. - reid On Thursday, Oct 17, 2002, at 21:14 US/Pacific, Foley, Brian wrote: > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 00:09:08 -0400 > From: "Foley, Brian" <bfoley@cmpd.org> > Subject: Turn Signal Question > > > A quick question concerning turn signal switches. My Porsche 944 Turbo > allowed you to turn the signal stalk to the left or right while > parked. This > activated the front and rear parking light on the respective side of > the > car, providing extra visibility when parked next to a curb at night. > > My owners' manual tells me that my M3 sedan has this feature, but no > matter > what I try, it won't activate this function. Anyone have any ideas? Do > we > get a US spec turn signal switch that's different from the European > market > that I can replace? > > Thanks in advance, > > Brian Foley > 97 M3 Sedan > Charlotte,NC > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* >

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#3. RE: shifter sticking - from Butch Berney
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 22:57:54 -0700 From: "Butch Berney" <butchberney@attbi.com> Subject: RE: shifter sticking We may not have the same problem, but it sounds like we do. What I, and others, have feels like the spring that centers the gearshift to the third gear gate does not push properly on the lever. As a consequense, the lever will just "flop" all the way to the right with no resistance, however the first gear spring still works correctly. In this sense, "sticky" really does not describe the problem very well :) It is definitely something inside the transmission...at least I don't see how anything external to the tranny could produce these symptoms. Butch -----Original Message----- From: Paul Elliott [mailto:elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:51 PM To: butchberney@attbi.com Cc: E36M3 Subject: shifter sticking Do you really think this has to do with the transmission? From the way mine feels, its only in the linkage...Paul Elliott

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#4. Winter Tires - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 10:04:08 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Winter Tires I essentially agree with Chris. I also read through all the surveys, etc. but still take them for what they are (surveys) and add a grain of salt for good measure. There are a lot of problems with surveys and one major one is everyone is using a different base line for their comparison as well as the fact that brand new tires should always feel better than old, worn tires. I bet in blind tests you could take someone on old MXX3s and then put them on new MXX3s and they would rave about them. To address the negative or more poorly rated tires, well, they must have a particular problem (poor wet performance, noisy, high wear, etc.) that everyone keys in on and rates them poorly. I use the surveys more often to eliminate tires choices than to decide what is best (i.e., if it doesn't even pass the survey test, it is eliminated from the possibilities). YMMV. For the most part, an all season tire will be a compromise (inherently). I highly doubt that the all season Michelin is nearly as good or "on par" in the dry as the Michelin Pilot Sport. Nor do I believe they are any where as close to as good as the dedicated snow tires (especially the Nokian Hakkapillitta). No tire manufacturer has been able to crack this breadth of ability at a consumer price. Will there be a day, maybe, but it hasn't happened yet. That being said, I wouldn't rule out the Michelin all-season for your snow tire if you are in the right conditions. I would use an all-season that is rated as a snow tire if I only drove in the lighter snow (which has been plowed) occasionally in the winter and my other tread was a maximum performance rubber (like a Michelin Pilot Sport). Disclaimer: My opinion has largely been formed by endless discussion with a few friends of mine that are tire engineers with Michelin, Goodyear and ex engineer with BF Goodrich. Regards, Rich 95 M3 - MXX3s 90 325is - S-O3 in summer, Hakkas in the winter

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#5. Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 10:05:01 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question Last I knew, the MXX3s were directional (which may be partially to blame for their wet performance along with the compound). Best regards, Rich 95 M3 - MXX3s

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#6. Re: Upcoming work on the M3 - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 07:36:13 -0700 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@cdsnet.net> Subject: Re: Upcoming work on the M3 I noticed no improvement in the difficulty of going into 1st. My experience has been similar with other manual trannys. I also believe I've noticed some difficulty going into 3rd, with the Syncromax, that I didn't have with D4-ATF. I've read of some with positive results and others with negative results. I don't have an aluminum flywheel, so the tranny noise deal isn't an issue with me. My sense is the Redline works better. But, no scientific evidence. I don't think it's a major deal though. Of course, YMMV. Jay At 09:57 AM 10/18/02 -0400, you wrote: >Jay, > >Care to tell me more? I have some RP Syncromax on the shelf and I am going to give it a try (use D4-ATF currently). I have heard nothing but positive about it and people have said it is better than both the D4-ATF and the Mobil 1 (there are split camps on these two, I have never tried the Mobil 1 though). I have even heard shifting is smoother and it has helped to quiet the ltw flywheel induced tranny rattle. > >I am going to try it if nothing else as an experiment. > >Best regards, > >Rich > >--------------------------------- > > >Jim- > >I recently replaced my D4-ATF with the RP Syncromax. I have noticed no >benefit. In fact, it may not be as good as the Redline in terms of >smoothness. I'll be going back to D4-ATF unless something extraordinary >happens to change my mind. > >You know.....my .02 > >Jay >

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:09:10 -0400 From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question If you are talking about the orginal Pilot SX MXX3 tires on the '95 and maybe '96 M3, no they are not directional. The tread "looks" directional, but it isn't. I loved the MXX3. I would still be driving on them if they made a 245/40-17 size. I think they had by far the best dry performance. The steering response is incredible. The only tire that matches it is the original BFG R1. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 Dallas, Texas ------------------------------- RDORFFER@CleIndians.com writes: > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 10:05:01 -0400 > From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> > Subject: Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question > > Last I knew, the MXX3s were directional (which may be partially to blame for their wet performance along with the compound). > > Best regards, > > Rich > > 95 M3 - MXX3s

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:17:33 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question Doh!!! I am a moron. I apologize for my post. I meant to say that the Pilot SX MXX3s are NOT DIRECTIONAL (which may be partially to blame for their wet performance along with the compound). Thanks for pointing out my post to me Lowell. Regards, Rich - TGIF 95 M3 - MXX3s (non directional) 90 325is - S-03s and Hakkas (both are directional) -----Original Message----- From: LoweSeaton@aol.com [mailto:LoweSeaton@aol.com] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question If you are talking about the orginal Pilot SX MXX3 tires on the '95 and maybe '96 M3, no they are not directional. The tread "looks" directional, but it isn't. I loved the MXX3. I would still be driving on them if they made a 245/40-17 size. I think they had by far the best dry performance. The steering response is incredible. The only tire that matches it is the original BFG R1. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 Dallas, Texas ------------------------------- RDORFFER@CleIndians.com writes: > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 10:05:01 -0400 > From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> > Subject: Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question > > Last I knew, the MXX3s were directional (which may be partially to blame for their wet performance along with the compound). > > Best regards, > > Rich > > 95 M3 - MXX3s

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Koni SA settings and adjustments - from john_stoj@excite.com
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:28:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "john_stoj@excite.com" <john_stoj@excite.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Koni SA settings and adjustments All this talk of Koni's and adjustments has got me thinking. I'll probably need new shocks/struts soon, but I basically just drive my M3 on the street. As a result, I can't imagine I'd ever want to adjust the settings. What I'd like is something that's set "right" the first time and I can just leave it. I'd like the ride to be a little less soft than stock. Does that lead me to the bilstein/H&R setup? Thanks, John S. '97 M3/2 _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question - from Dave Kelley
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:30:01 -0400 From: "Dave Kelley" <d.kelley@usa.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question Hey, I have a garage full of 245/40/17 MXX3's. What's my bid? :-) > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:09:10 -0400 > From: LoweSeaton@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question > > If you are talking about the orginal Pilot SX MXX3 tires on the '95 and maybe '96 M3, no they are not directional. The tread "looks" directional, but it isn't. > > I loved the MXX3. I would still be driving on them if they made a 245/40-17 size. I think they had by far the best dry performance. The steering response is incredible. The only tire that matches it is the original BFG R1. > > Lowell Seaton > '95 M3 > Dallas, Texas > ------------------------------- > RDORFFER@CleIndians.com writes: > > > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 10:05:01 -0400 > > From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> > > Subject: Michelin Pilot MXX3 Question > > > > Last I knew, the MXX3s were directional (which may be partially to blame for their wet performance along with the compound). > > > > Best regards, > > > > Rich > > > > 95 M3 - MXX3s

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