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#1. Toyo Life (was Boogers) - from KLchmn@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:24:42 EDT From: KLchmn@aol.com Subject: Toyo Life (was Boogers) I just corded the inside of my front right tire at the races at Buttonwillow Oct. 12-13. These particular tires were two years old with a ton of driving schools, autocrosses, and a few club races (including a 2 hour enduro!). I did flip them on the wheels once after the outside shoulder wear was starting to get excessive. To be honest, I didn't even know that the tire had corded as I was charging hard until the end of the race. I'd made a bit of a boo-boo early in the race in turn 2 (clockwise -- the so called 'on-ramp' turn) so I needed to catch up... FWIW, I have 3.5 deg. neg up front and 2.5 deg neg in the back. 235/40/17 all around on 17 x 8 wheels. I rotote frequently (but only flipped them once). Cheers, Kirk Lachman Sin City Chapter '95 M3 #21 I-stock '92 525i w/5-speed FOR SALE!!! '02 M3 'home at last!'
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#2. Camber correction shims? - from Ed Yee
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:56:07 -0400 From: "Ed Yee" <edyee@attbi.com> Subject: Camber correction shims? After installing KONIs single adjustable strut inserts, my 97M3 was recently aligned and still drifts slightly to the right. According to the printout (I don't have it handy) I have about .4 degrees less negative camber in the right side than the left side. I have heard that using about .040" or 1mm washers in the bottom two strut mounting bolts, I can get about .5 degrees more negative camber. Anybody know the size of washer I need, ID and OD? Any place to buy the right ones? Also, how will installing these shims change toe-in and caster if at all? Thanks.. Ed
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Camber correction shims? - from Chris Teague
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:38:28 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Camber correction shims? Ed, You can use AN 960 washers, 0.515" ID, 0.875" OD. Mine are 0.028" thick, 18-8 Stainless Steel, but you can get them thicker. I got mine from McMaster-Carr, www.mcmaster.com They come in packs of 100. Watch the tire to strut clearance though. They will add toe-in, but won't change the caster at all. The stock bolts are already on the short side, so you may want to upgrade to some M12x25mm bolts (Grade 10.9). Stock are 20mm. Same source. Chris 97 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- > After installing KONIs single adjustable strut inserts, my 97M3 > was recently aligned and still drifts slightly to the right. According > to the printout (I don't have it handy) I have about .4 degrees less > negative camber in the right side than the left side. I have heard > that using about .040" or 1mm washers in the bottom two strut > mounting bolts, I can get about .5 degrees more negative camber. > Anybody know the size of washer I need, ID and OD? Any place > to buy the right ones? Also, how will installing these shims change > toe-in and caster if at all? > > Thanks.. Ed
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Toyo Life (was Boogers) - from Mel Myers
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:21:13 -0500 From: Mel Myers <melmyers76@netscape.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Toyo Life (was Boogers) You have way too much neg camber on the front right wheel. I suspect that if you did a proper scientific tire temp study, it will show this. From my understanding, you should have around a 10-15 degree F delta between the inside and outside of your inside front tire max (inside being hotter since you are 'dragging' it.) This excessive neg camber will explain you cording on the inside of the tire. If you decrease your neg camber, your right hand turns should improve slightly, and your braking performance should improve as well.... -Mel KLchmn@aol.com wrote: >Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:24:42 EDT >From: KLchmn@aol.com >Subject: Toyo Life (was Boogers) > >I just corded the inside of my front right tire at the races at Buttonwillow >Oct. 12-13. These particular tires were two years old with a ton of driving >schools, autocrosses, and a few club races (including a 2 hour enduro!). I >did flip them on the wheels once after the outside shoulder wear was starting >to get excessive. > >To be honest, I didn't even know that the tire had corded as I was charging >hard until the end of the race. I'd made a bit of a boo-boo early in the >race in turn 2 (clockwise -- the so called 'on-ramp' turn) so I needed to >catch up... > >FWIW, I have 3.5 deg. neg up front and 2.5 deg neg in the back. 235/40/17 >all around on 17 x 8 wheels. I rotote frequently (but only flipped them >once). > >Cheers, > >Kirk Lachman >Sin City Chapter >'95 M3 #21 I-stock >'92 525i w/5-speed FOR SALE!!! >'02 M3 'home at last!' > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > >To issue a command/request to the server: >Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. >************************************************************* > > >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Camber correction shims? - from Ed Yee
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 00:01:23 -0400 From: "Ed Yee" <edyee@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Camber correction shims? Thanks for the quick response Lee & Chris!! Ed
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Toyo Life (was Boogers) - from KLchmn@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 00:36:34 EDT From: KLchmn@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Toyo Life (was Boogers) In a message dated 10/22/02 9:00:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, melmyers76@netscape.net writes: > You have way too much neg camber on the front right wheel. I posted incorrectly. It was on the LEFT front, not right front. I can't remember left from right some days... > I suspect > that if you did a proper scientific tire temp study, it will show this. As opposed to all the improper tire temp data I take? <g> I wasn't complaining about the tires at all. 2 years worth of driving is pretty good in my book. The tires were sticky up to their last breath. > From my understanding, you should have around a 10-15 degree F delta > between the inside and outside of your inside front tire max (inside > being hotter since you are 'dragging' it.) This excessive neg camber > will explain you cording on the inside of the tire. If you decrease > your neg camber, your right hand turns should improve slightly, and your > braking performance should improve as well.... If I have excessive negative camber, how come the outside shoulder wears faster than the inside shoulder? As for tire temps, they were between 3 to 10 degrees cooler on the inside shoulder than the outside for every session (2 Friday, 3 Saturday, and 3 Sunday). Maybe I need 4 degrees negative camber? The tire corded b/c it was flipped on the wheel after excessive outside shoulder wear from 2 years of abuse at my hands and Dan Tackett's hands. Then, after I flipped them on the wheels, I beat the snot out of them for a couple more weekends, absolutely thrashing them on the last race of the weekend chasing down my competitors after I made my mistake. Oh yeah, it WAS the right front tire on Friday and Saturday. I swapped it over to the left front Sunday b/c it had better tread than my left front. Everyone was impressed by the longevity of the Toyos. Most couldn't believe they were over 2 years old! I set personal best times for the track in the config we ran it that weekend and the only changes I made all weekend were to tire pressures and slight adjustments to my line. I agree that Toyo makes an excellent tire, albeit poorly distributed. Cheers, Kirk Lachman Sin City Chapter '95 M3 #21 I-stock '92 525i 5-speed FOR SALE '02 M3 'wish I got to drive it once in a while...'
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#7. B Pillar Interior Trim - from Lew Becker
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:39:59 -0700 From: "Lew Becker" <lmbeckercfls@earthlink.net> Subject: B Pillar Interior Trim Anyone know how the black interior trim piece is affixed to the B pillar? Mine has apparently "popped" out a bit, and is interfering with my (the driver's) seat belt from fully retracting -- it retracts just fine when I push the piece back; but, it pops right back out, and then the seat belt just hangs, gets caught in the door, etc.. Thanks. Lew Becker
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#8. FS: JC/Eurosport CAI - from Lew Becker
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:57:13 -0700 From: "Lew Becker" <lmbeckercfls@earthlink.net> Subject: FS: JC/Eurosport CAI Over the summer, I installed a Dinan SC -- great fun (and I'm hardly a mechanic -- although I've done fluids, X brace, the CAI, and such that's about the extent of it); transformed the car (no E46 M3 for this camper in the foreseeable future); some minor issues, but all in all a very satisfying experience (including the 2500 mile road trip through CA, NV, AZ, and UT 2 weeks later -- high speeds (90+); beautiful roads, no cops (at least none that the V1 missed), and almost no traffic (2 weeks after Labor Day). Anyhow ... I don't have any need for my JC/Eurosport CAI. First $300 gets it -- I'm in the SF Bay Area; if the buyer isn't, add in shipping (and insurance) from 94040. Lew Becker
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Toyo Life (was Boogers) - from Mel Myers
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 00:18:59 -0500 From: Mel Myers <melmyers76@netscape.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Toyo Life (was Boogers) <html> <head> </head> <body> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:021022234441NS.02360@SVList.com"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> I suspect <br> that if you did a proper scientific tire temp study, it will show this. <br></pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!----><br>As opposed to all the improper tire temp data I take? <g></pre> </blockquote> <br> Just tryin' to help a fellow brutha out... geez!!<br> <br> -Mel<br> </body> </html>
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#10. FS: Single BBS RK (17x8) - from Patrick Buthmann
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:44:50 -0400 From: "Patrick Buthmann" <patrick@teutonic.ca> Subject: FS: Single BBS RK (17x8) I have a single, BBS RK (one piece) 17x8 that's never been used. Wheel is absolutely brand new. I've sold all my remaining BBS wheels (moved to OZ), and I need to sell this one as well. If anyone is interested in an RK as a spare track wheel or matching street wheel, this may be for you. Asking $450 CDN plus shipping (replacement cost in Canada is $515 each) or $250 USD (eating some exchange rate) plus shipping to the U.S. Located in Toronto, Ontario. Pat patrick@teutonic.ca __________________________________________________ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com