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#1. RE: [E36M3] Slightly OT - Changing Brake Fluid - from Carey Probst
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:21:00 -0500 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Slightly OT - Changing Brake Fluid Whether or not you can tell the new from the old blue depends on how long it's been since your last change. I'd recommend using the gold. Last time I changed mine I forgot and used blue after blue. Since it hadn't been that long between schools but long enough to need a change by rules, I couldn't tell when the new started flowing. Don't know about the BMP pump but the one I got from HMS has a gauge and recommends 15-20 psi if I remember correctly. Make sure you don't let the fluid in the pump get too low or it will introduce air into the system. Also, if you've never done beofre and it hasn't been done regularly, be careful with the bleed fittings so you don't round them off or break a line. They can get tight if not done regularly. And make sure you have stands under the car. Don't trust a jack. (Ignore if a regular wrencher just moving to a new area ;-) ) Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters JC CAIed and Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. -----Original Message----- From: Johnny Lee [mailto:mclee@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 2:04 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Slightly OT - Changing Brake Fluid Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:01:29 -0500 From: Johnny Lee <mclee@comcast.net> Subject: Slightly OT - Changing Brake Fluid I have finally decided to get my hands dirty and plan to change the brake fluid myself (never done it before.) I am looking to see if there are things that I need to watch out from your experience. I plan to follow the following procedure: -Get a pump from BMP -Put one liter of fluid in the pump and connect it to the master cylinder. -Apply pressure (not sure how much pressure I should apply.) -Follow Bentley's procedure to bleed the brake and clutch -Watch out and not get the fluid on any painted surface. My main concern is that I don't know how to differentiate between old/new fluid other than getting different color one. The car has ATE Superblue in it. I still have a liter left in my house. Should I get the amber one or would I be able to tell the difference between old and new "blue" fluid? Is there any special area that I need to watch out for to avoid getting air in the system? TIA, -Johnny 1998 M3/4 (daily driver) 50K ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Slightly OT - Changing Brake Fluid - from Robert S. Hatrak II
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:27:16 -0800 From: "Robert S. Hatrak II" <hatrak@ix.netcom.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Slightly OT - Changing Brake Fluid Johnny, I always switch colors to make it easy to tell when the old fluid is flushed. After you bleed each caliper, go back a check that you are safe with your fluid level. If not, re-fill before the next caliper. Never let the level drop low enough for air to get in, and you should be ok. Also, watch the pressure you use to pressurize the system. Too much, and the brake fluid reservoir will pop off. Good luck! Rob -----Original Message----- My main concern is that I don't know how to differentiate between old/new fluid other than getting different color one. The car has ATE Superblue in it. I still have a liter left in my house. Should I get the amber one or would I be able to tell the difference between old and new "blue" fluid? Is there any special area that I need to watch out for to avoid getting air in the system?
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#3. RE: How to use child safety seats in E36? - from Chris Sautter
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:52:26 -0800 From: "Chris Sautter" <chriss@fioriinc.com> Subject: RE: How to use child safety seats in E36? I have a 4-door, and I have no problem with 2 child seats. I use a nonslip pad under and behind each seat to stabilize things. It also protects the seat. The leather is much too slippery without the pad. I'm using a Britax seat that fits well. Even with everything adjusted, I have read that it is acceptable to have a little float in the seat. I had more problems squeezing seats into the back of my 2-door. If I remember right, the seats had more of a side bolster on the outside. This made the child seats face at an angle toward the center of the car. Also, the rear facing infant seat hit the back of the front seats. Chris Sautter '98 M3/4 Portland, OR
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#4. Re: [E36M3] How to use child safety seats in E36? - from Wen Liew
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Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 12:54:38 -0800 From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to use child safety seats in E36? >From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to use child safety seats in E36? > >At 04:34 PM 10/31/02, K Quistorff wrote: > >Problem is the design of > >both left and right rear seat belts in E36 cars does not allow a normal > >forward facing child safety seat to be used - the anchor point positions >are > >backwards from "normal" (E36's have belt receptacles near corners of the > >seat instead of near center) and the belt anchor positions are not spread > >apart enough to capture the width of a child seat. > >Hmmm, odd since we put Nikolas' car seat (forward facing) in my car all the >time. The spacing is a bit narrower than Kim's Corolla, but it still fits. >It goes on the passenger side of the rear seat. > >Anyway, maybe it has to do with the size of seat? I think Nik's is a Cosco >seat. > >Jim Bassett >1998 M3/4 - Daddy's "purple" car (we're working on "violet" :-)) >1993 325is #44 KP The question should have been "How to use child safety seats in E36 Coupe" ;) Car seats work fine in a sedan since the belts are "correct", i.e., they are mounted on the C pillar instead of the seats like the coupe. I believe the rear seats are also different in the sedans. On the coupe, it depends on whether you have fold or non-fold down seats. On either one, you can install tethers. I opted for a different solution and it has worked for 4 years. Since I have fold down seats, I first secure the car seat like one would normally do with the seat belt, i.e. through the car seat and use the car seat's 3 point belt to secure kids. The seat will still slide around since the seat belts can never be tightened. I then wrap another belt (e.g. high quality luggage strap)through the car seat and around the fold down seat. Open the trunk and secure the "supplemental" belt as tightly as you can (you may need to do this a few times). Use another belt if you need to. The seat should stay in place and not slide. Although my kids are now heavier, I still keep the "supplemental" belt but would secure them with the regular seat belt around their chests. Wen 96 M3 "bus" _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
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#5. WOT - Extending a courtesy to fellow listers - from HYPERM3@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:03:00 EST From: HYPERM3@aol.com Subject: WOT - Extending a courtesy to fellow listers Hey all, Sorry if this post bothers anyone ahead of time. I work at Pottery Barn and this weekend we are having a "Friends and Family" discount. It is 20% off of anything in the store, any store. Just go in and say you were referred for a coupon by Alex Demsky in the Princeton, NJ store. You are all my friends so please take advantage of this discount if you wish. Suzy please don't hunt me down for this post. Alex "HyperM3" Demsky 97 S/C M3
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#6. Re: [E36M3] How to use child safety seats in E36? - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:09:39 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to use child safety seats in E36? > On the coupe, it depends on whether you have fold or non-fold down seats. On > either one, you can install tethers. I opted for a different solution and it > has worked for 4 years. Since I have fold down seats, I first secure the car > seat like one would normally do with the seat belt, i.e. through the car > seat and use the car seat's 3 point belt to secure kids. The seat will still > slide around since the seat belts can never be tightened. I then wrap > another belt (e.g. high quality luggage strap)through the car seat and Hmmm...I know I recently tested this on my parent's E38, but if you pull the seatbelts all the way out on the rear seats, don't the mechanisms stay in rewind mode only? So that you can secure a child seat? Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/
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#7. Re: [E36M3] '96 M3 Windshield Washer Nozzels - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:19:14 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] '96 M3 Windshield Washer Nozzels Are you sure that there are two inlets? I have two 61 66 8 376 011 sitting right in front of me (I broke one taking it off my car) and there is only one inlet. There is a faux-type inlet so many that's what you're seeing. Chester --- Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> wrote: > However, I received the heated nozzle with the above part number and it has > two inlets for washer fluid. I then checked the ETK for a 99 M3 and it > lists a different part number for the heated nozzle for that year: > > heated nozzle 61-66-8-376-011 > > The heated nozzle is not cheap, from Pacific BMW it was ~$20.00 and from > Allison BMW it would have been ~$38.00. Any ideas? A mistake in the ETK? ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/
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#8. Re: [E36M3] '96 M3 Windshield Washer Nozzels - from Rex Tener
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Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 13:27:04 -0800 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] '96 M3 Windshield Washer Nozzels At 01:19 PM 11/1/2002 -0800, Chester Wong wrote: >Are you sure that there are two inlets? I have two 61 66 8 376 011 sitting >right in front of me (I broke one taking it off my car) and there is only one >inlet. There is a faux-type inlet so many that's what you're seeing. > >Chester Hi Chester, I said the "above part number", which is/was: heated nozzle 61-66-8-350-355 It has the two inlets, and is listed in the ETK as the '96 M3 heated nozzle. So, it looks like the ETK is incorrect in this case. I am going to return the above part to Pacific BMW and order the one that Chester just confirmed is the correct one: heated nozzle 61-66-8-376-011 Thanks, Rex >--- Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> wrote: > > However, I received the heated nozzle with the above part number and it > has > > two inlets for washer fluid. I then checked the ETK for a 99 M3 and it > > lists a different part number for the heated nozzle for that year: > > > > heated nozzle 61-66-8-376-011 > > > > The heated nozzle is not cheap, from Pacific BMW it was ~$20.00 and from > > Allison BMW it would have been ~$38.00. Any ideas? A mistake in the ETK?
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#9. Re: [E36M3] How to use child safety seats in E36? - from Wen Liew
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Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 13:40:46 -0800 From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to use child safety seats in E36? >From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> >To: Wen Liew <wwliew@hotmail.com>, E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to use child safety seats in E36? >Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:09:39 -0800 (PST) > > > On the coupe, it depends on whether you have fold or non-fold down >seats. On > > either one, you can install tethers. I opted for a different solution >and it > > has worked for 4 years. Since I have fold down seats, I first secure the >car > > seat like one would normally do with the seat belt, i.e. through the car > > seat and use the car seat's 3 point belt to secure kids. The seat will >still > > slide around since the seat belts can never be tightened. I then wrap > > another belt (e.g. high quality luggage strap)through the car seat and > >Hmmm...I know I recently tested this on my parent's E38, but if you pull >the >seatbelts all the way out on the rear seats, don't the mechanisms stay in >rewind mode only? So that you can secure a child seat? > >Chester On most sedans, the seat belts are mounted on the C-pillar but on the coupes the seat belts are mounted on the seats, i.e. as someone referred to as "wrong". I never had problems securing car seats in all my sedans, E34 and MBZ ML. The seat belts in the my coupe don't stay in rewind mode even when pulled all they way out. However, when I do a quick forward snap to the belts, they do stay tightened/locked as they are supposed to, so I know the belts are working correctly. Aghast! My wife did say I might need to sell the M3 if I couldn't get the seats secured. Desperation eventualy led to a financially viable solution ;) Hmm, maybe that is why the E46 M3 comes with tethers ;) At a car show, someone actually asked me what those thingys are which I felt qualified to answer. Wen _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Brake Fluid Change - from Roger W. Graves
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Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:35:29 -0500 From: "Roger W. Graves" <rogracer@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake Fluid Change If using a pressure bleeder, you should tie-wrap the reservoir to the master cylinder to prevent it from blowing off. Just in case. -Roger On 11/1/02 2:14 PM, "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> wrote: > Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:01:29 -0500 From: Johnny Lee <mclee@comcast.net> > Subject: Slightly OT - Changing Brake Fluid > > > I have finally decided to get my hands dirty and plan to change the brake > fluid myself (never done it before.) I am looking to see if there are things > that I need to watch out from your experience. > > I plan to follow the following procedure: > > -Get a pump from BMP -Put one liter of fluid in the pump and connect it to the > master cylinder. -Apply pressure (not sure how much pressure I should apply.) > -Follow Bentley's procedure to bleed the brake and clutch -Watch out and not > get the fluid on any painted surface. > > My main concern is that I don't know how to differentiate between old/new > fluid other than getting different color one. The car has ATE Superblue in > it. I still have a liter left in my house. Should I get the amber one or > would I be able to tell the difference between old and new "blue" fluid? Is > there any special area that I need to watch out for to avoid getting air in > the system? > > TIA, > > -Johnny