E36M3 #2743

Tuesday, November 05, 2002 21:56:39

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Let's diagnose an ugly sound... - from Joe Dyer
#2. RE: M3 owners with an AA, Supersprint, or UUC exhaust? - from Mike Frank
#3. E36 6 cyl head removal - from Michael Turgeon
#4. Re: [E36M3] E36 6 cyl head removal - from Mel Myers
#5. RE: Finally a combo Street/Track brake pad - from Nsxlr8@aol.com
#6. Re: Metal valve stems - from James Clay
#7. vacuum leak - from Paul Elliott
#8. metal valve stems - from Paul Elliott
#9. speed sensor bad? - from Todd C. Merrill
#10. Re: [E36M3] Winter tires and storage of summer tires - from Mdriver13@aol.com

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Let's diagnose an ugly sound... - from Joe Dyer
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:40:31 -0800 From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Let's diagnose an ugly sound... At full lock you are going too slow to hear wheel bearings. My guess is the plastic lining of your front fenders has come loose and the tire is rubbing it at full lock. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Phillips" <jon@maximumpc.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:56 PM Subject: [E36M3] Let's diagnose an ugly sound... > Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 13:55:39 -0800 > From: jon@maximumpc.com (Jon Phillips) > Subject: Let's diagnose an ugly sound... > > OK, It's been two days since the track school at Sears Point. Yesterday I > posted a message about possible brake fade -- well, now it's gone (my pedal > play is back to normal). But now I have a different problem: At full lock, > with the steering wheel all the way to the left, I hear a scraping noise > from the right/front of the car; I'll assume it's coming from the wheel. > > Wheel bearing? Something with calipers or the brake pad? For what it's > worth, I tried stopping in a straight line at speed a few times, and the > car brakes normally, i.e., it doesn't pull one way or the other. > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >

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#2. RE: M3 owners with an AA, Supersprint, or UUC exhaust? - from Mike Frank
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Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:05:14 -0500 From: Mike Frank <mfrank28@comcast.net> Subject: RE: M3 owners with an AA, Supersprint, or UUC exhaust? Ajay, You're welcome to listen to my UUC exhaust if you're ever in Indianapolis. It's NOT quiet but it sounds very good. I've had many people tell me how good it sounds. In fact, I guy followed me home last week because it sounded good and he wanted to find out what kind it was. Does anyone know if UUC changed the exhaust? Reason I ask is because I got one of the first ones and it's pretty loud. Other UUC exhausts I've heard that were purchased maybe a year later were noticeably quieter (smoother, less resonance and rumbling :), especially on the 3.0L 95s. To me they sounded excellent also though. Good Luck, Mike Frank 97 M3 > -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:29:01 EST > From: Pilewan23@aol.com > Subject: M3 owners with an AA, Supersprint, or UUC exhaust? > > Anyone in the NY,NJ,CT,PA area with an AA, Supersprint, or > UUC exhaust? I was > wondering if anyone was willing to let me listen to their > exhaust system? > Thanks. > > > Ajay Thoppil

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#3. E36 6 cyl head removal - from Michael Turgeon
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:08:51 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Turgeon <turgeon1@yahoo.com> Subject: E36 6 cyl head removal Gruppe: Any one undertake the above project at home yet? If so, please feel free to provide any tips, pointers, etc. I have the Bentley and have contact Brett to rent the right tools. I am looking to tap into the gruppes vast experience for anything that would have been good to know or is not covered in any instructions. Thanks, Mike #418 ITS/JP(yeah, that's a reasonable classification?!? NOT!) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/

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#4. Re: [E36M3] E36 6 cyl head removal - from Mel Myers
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Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:35:45 -0600 From: Mel Myers <melmyers76@netscape.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 6 cyl head removal I too would be interested in what responses you get on this question, as I may have to do this same procedure soon.... -Mel Michael Turgeon wrote: >Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:08:51 -0800 (PST) >From: Michael Turgeon <turgeon1@yahoo.com> >Subject: E36 6 cyl head removal > >Gruppe: > >Any one undertake the above project at home yet? > >If so, please feel free to provide any tips, pointers, >etc. > >I have the Bentley and have contact Brett to rent the >right tools. > >I am looking to tap into the gruppes vast experience >for anything that would have been good to know or is >not covered in any instructions. > >Thanks, >Mike >#418 ITS/JP(yeah, that's a reasonable >classification?!? NOT!) > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now >http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > >To issue a command/request to the server: >Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. >************************************************************* > > >

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#5. RE: Finally a combo Street/Track brake pad - from Nsxlr8@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:42:48 EST From: Nsxlr8@aol.com Subject: RE: Finally a combo Street/Track brake pad Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:19:20 +0000 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Finally a combo Street/Track brake pad I guess we have a solution without compromise. Last month at the Glen I met with a bunch of list members. Tom Kallay was running CarboTech (sp?) brake pads. The DID NOT dust or squeled. One of my students in his M Coupe was running the same pads so I had a good second hand experience with it. Pretty decent stopping Mo Karamat is going the same route. Apparently we have a gem on the list. Gerry Low who can get us the pads for reasonable prices (gerry@parallel-mkt.com) I spoke to Gerry and he runs them on the street as well with no loud squels and there was absolutely no dust on his wheels (after a day's worth of track time). If anyone has any expereince with these pads, please share with us your .02 cents. Thanks. A.L. Ahmad, I use the Carbotech Panther Plus pads for track and street. Not on the M3 (Wife's car) but on my NSX. They are a very streetable pad and hold up very well for track duty. Dusting is not too bad on the street and you can get a slight squeak once and a while. They seem to dust more on the street than on the track for some reason. They won't rattle like the PFC's and they are easy on rotors. I highly recommend them to those in search of a good combination pad. You can order them direct from Carbotech Engineering. Check out www.carbotecheng.com for more details. Jeff Bjerke '91 NSX '98 M "three quarters" '97 Maxima SE

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#6. Re: Metal valve stems - from James Clay
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:57:57 -0500 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: Re: Metal valve stems >Counterpoint. I've been using metal valve stems for well over 20 years. Good ones have a rubber washer/seal and don't leak. I have a set I've used in multiple sets of wheels. My Racing Dynamics RGQs come with them from the factory. Just like anything else, you get what you pay for. Use the correct ones for the wheels you have and they'll do fine. I can't imagine the sets that came with the Forgelines were cheap - very similar to the ones I paid a lot for from Summit. They did have a nice rubber seal, but apparently it didn't work. Often the valve stem is in a slightly curved area and even after the metal ones are tight, the flat washer that flattens the seal is still flat - won't hug the curve. I never said they wouldn't work, but I prefer foolproof - usually works but has rare inherent problems has bitten me too many times. James -------------------------------------------------------------------- James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com Engineered BMW Performance Genuine and OEM BMW Parts 540.639.9648 -------------------------------------------------------------------- We now carry a full line of DEC catalytic converters - now offering free shipping on these parts through the end of the year. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:53 PM > >Counterpoint. I've been using metal valve stems for well over 20 years. > Good ones have a rubber washer/seal and don't leak. I have a set I've used > in multiple sets of wheels. My Racing Dynamics RGQs come with them from the > factory. Just like anything else, you get what you pay for. Use the > correct ones for the wheels you have and they'll do fine. > > I can't imagine the sets that came with the Forgelines were cheap - very > similar to the ones I paid a lot for from Summit. They did have a nice > rubber seal, but apparently it didn't work. Often the valve stem is in a > slightly curved area and even after the metal ones are tight, the flat > washer that flattens the seal is still flat - won't hug the curve. I never > said they wouldn't work, but I prefer foolproof - usually works but has rare > inherent problems has bitten me too many times. > > James > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > James Clay > http://www.bimmerworld.com > Engineered BMW Performance > Genuine and OEM BMW Parts > 540.639.9648 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > We now carry a full line of DEC catalytic converters - now offering free > shipping on these parts through the end of the year. > > >

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#7. vacuum leak - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:07:44 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Subject: vacuum leak Hi Shane, >>There is a hose under the intake manifold, behind the brake pressure sending unit that is notorious for coming loose... An easy way to check for vacuum leaks is to spray some type of aerosol fuel around the engine bay and wait for the revs to rise in response. This can be somewhat dangerous so be careful. Good candidates for this are a propane torch (unlit of course) or carb cleaner. Don't spray in the area of the leak for too long, just long enough to locate it.<< Does this leak have any symptoms youd notice? If not, why fix it? Paul Elliott --------------------------------------------------------- '99 White M3; 45K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Aquamist Water/Methanol Injection; Fikse FM-10s; X-Brace; Dinan Koni Suspension; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio

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#8. metal valve stems - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:13:23 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Subject: metal valve stems >>Counterpoint. I've been using metal valve stems for well over 20 years. Good ones have a rubber washer/seal and don't leak. I have a set I've used in mutiple sets of wheels<< Right. I just picked up a skinny nail a half inch from my side wall, but in the flat part of the tread. They told me it was too close to the sidewall, and couldnt be patched, so I had to order a new Pilot Sport from TR which is a bummer because the tires were new in April. I wrote to Fikse where I got my 3 pc FM-10s last april, and asked if I needed a new metal stem, or could reuse the one that came on the wheel. He told me the metal valve stem should last over 2 years, but to check and make sure the rubber seal was in tact. Ive had zero problems with these stems, and really prefer them to the rubber ones. Now, if someone can find a way to stop picking up nails, I'll be much happier! Paul Elliott --------------------------------------------------------- '99 White M3; 45K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Aquamist Water/Methanol Injection; Fikse FM-10s; X-Brace; Dinan Koni Suspension; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio

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#9. speed sensor bad? - from Todd C. Merrill
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:37:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Todd C. Merrill" <tmerrill@mathworks.com> Subject: speed sensor bad? Anybody ever have a speed sensor go bad? Not every time, but a couple of the last few times I've driven over 30 minutes or so, I've casually looked down to check my speed and the speedometer needle is resting on the post. The fuel consumption gauge needle isn't visible. And, the odometer doesn't increase. It doesn't ever seem to happen if I drive less than 20-30 minutes. And, when it does happen, it's dead until I drive the car next. Stopping the car, going in reverse, turning off the car (key in or out) doesn't seem to stop the symptoms. Only time. A rest of a full night helps, as does about 30-40 minutes. (I'm only working with three data points, though). I've pulled the connector to the speed sensor off and reseated it, to no avail. Bentley shows (ELE-167) speed sensor goes straight to the instrument cluster. My first inclination is to hope the part is cheap and replace the sensor first (those little bolts look like a pain to get off). I don't even want to think about an instrument cluster.... I'm hoping the experience of this list has some wisdom to share. Until next time... Todd 1998 BMW Dinan M3 coupe BMW CCA member, Boston Chapter ---

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Winter tires and storage of summer tires - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:49:15 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Winter tires and storage of summer tires In a message dated 11/4/02 8:38:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, rudngo@yahoo.com writes: > > I store my summer wheels/tires stacked on one > > another > > with cardboard inbetween them in my basement... and for what it's worth, I wrap each one in a black plastic trash bag Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion '97 & '00 BSP Champion '01 & '02

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