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#1. Re: [E36M3] Questions about jack stands? - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:59:59 -0800 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@cdsnet.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Questions about jack stands? hmmmmm......so I guess the dealer, and other mechanics, putting the arms of the hoist under the jack points is in error. I don't think so. Jay At 10:29 AM 11/6/02 -0500, you wrote: >Johnny, > >Here is a link to something I found really useful about using jack >stands. The part of the thread that was really useful was something that >Brett Anderson had sent someone. Here it is..... > >Here's an excerpt from an email that I got from Brett Anderson of >www.koalamotorsport.com <http://www.koalamotorsport.com> - Brett is a >BMW Master Tech, and knows what he's talking about. >------------------------------------------------ >Placing jack stands on an E36: > >DO NOT, EVER, PLACE JACK STANDS UNDER THE "LIFT PADS" > >The lift pads are not jack stand locations, they cannot, and will not, seat >correctly on a jack stand. You are inviting disaster by placing the jack >stands under these point. Remember, working on an incorrectly supported >vehicle is dangerous. A local BMW CCA member was killed about 6 months ago >when his car fell of the jack stands while he was under it. > >Front jack stands, on an E36, can be placed under the front "frame rails". >These are the boxed steel rails under the front floor. My preference is to >put them in the inverted V created by the "frame rail" and the bracket >for the >front control arm bushing. > >This photo does not show my preferred point, but an acceptable point, >for the >front. www.koalamotorsport.com/misc/e36pics-02.jpg ><http://www.koalamotorsport.com/misc/e36pics-02.jpg> > >The rear requires a little more precise location of the jack stands. The >only >safe place to put a jack stand at the rear of an E36 is on the toe >plate, just >forward of the rear wheel. This is the plate which secures the front of the >trailing arm to the floor of the car. >www.koalamotorsport.com/misc/e36pics-01.jpg ><http://www.koalamotorsport.com/misc/e36pics-01.jpg> Yes, I know that >it's not a great >photo, it was taken mid winter, after the car got stuck in the mud. > >Within the next couple of months, Koala Motorsport will be offering >universal >jack stand adapters that will allow you to safely support the vehicle >from the >lift pads. Unlike some of the adapters available, these ones will work with >most, not just one, of the jack stands available. > >Until that time, we strongly urge you to use the listed images as >examples of >where to place the stands. The lift pads are NOT safe for regular jack >stands, they are designed purely for automotive lifts. >- > > >Hope this helps!! > >Steve Tymoszuk > > >Jay W. Hudson wrote: > >> >>Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 05:53:43 -0800 >>From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@cdsnet.net> >>Subject: Re: [E36M3] Questions about jack stands? >> >>At 11:16 PM 11/5/02 -0600, you wrote: >> >> >>>Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 00:21:18 -0500 >>>From: Johnny Lee <mclee@comcast.net> >>>Subject: Questions about jack stands? >>> >>> >>> I will be needing to buy jack stands in the near future. I am wondering if >>>anyone just uses any Sears/Pep Boys jack stands for the Hockey Pucks or use >>>Ron's adapter? Would there be any problems using commercial jack stands on >>>our cars without any modification? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>>Johnny >>> >>>1998 M3/4 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>I use regular jackstands all the time. I have no rubber pucks on my car. >>Previous owner removed or lost them. I use a peice of 5/8" plywood between >>the top pf the jackstand and the car. Works fine. >> >>Jay >> >> >> >>************************************************************* >>List Commands >>UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >>DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >>GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). >> >>To issue a command/request to the server: >>Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >>subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. >>************************************************************* >> >> >> >> >> > > >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Questions about jack stands? - from Carey Probst
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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:13:28 Etc/GMT-5 From: Carey Probst <hcprobst@nycap.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Questions about jack stands? Jay, You missed the KEY sentence in Brett's original mail. From Brett's mail > > The lift pads are NOT safe for regular jack > >stands, they are designed purely for automotive lifts. I.e. Those things the dealer and other mechanics use, not jackstands. Carey > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:59:59 -0800 > From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@cdsnet.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Questions about jack stands? > > hmmmmm......so I guess the dealer, and other mechanics, putting the arms of > the hoist under the jack points is in error. I don't think so. > > Jay > --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Road Runner's Web-based e-mail.
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Questions about jack stands? - from David Ngo
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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:15:05 -0800 (PST) From: David Ngo <rudngo@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Questions about jack stands? Jay, Reread what Brett is saying. His post says to not put jack stands under the stock jack pads. He does not say that lifting the car at those points is incorrect. Brett is referring to the fact that the top of most jack stands does not mate well with the stock jack pads. This makes for a potentially dangerous situation where the jack stands are not secure - vigorous rocking of the car or some other hard push could slide the car off the jackstands, especially if you're not working on a pretty level surface. I've used jackstands with Ron's adapters and feel much, much safer with them. If you're using a lift, of course you should use the jack pads. Dave --- "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@cdsnet.net> wrote: > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:59:59 -0800 > From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@cdsnet.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Questions about jack stands? > > hmmmmm......so I guess the dealer, and other > mechanics, putting the arms of > the hoist under the jack points is in error. I > don't think so. > > Jay > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Starter Removal - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:23:32 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Starter Removal It might be extremely difficult to get to without dropping the driveshaft and the tranny mount and tilting the engine downwards. If you can do that, then a long extension and the proper torx socket will work. Also, I know that on the later E36s, the starter housing was threaded so that you only needed the torx bolts. Apparently on the earlier ones ('98 and earlier), there were two nuts on the other side of the starter that makes this one PITA to remove/reinstall. Chester --- "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsuhsc.edu> wrote: > Has anyone removed the starter form their M3? What is the best way to get > at this thing? ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Questions about jack stands? - from Doug Wirth
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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:28:29 -0800 From: Doug Wirth <DWirth@serena.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Questions about jack stands? It is much easier to go to the dealer and get E46 pads they are rectangle shaped instead of round. You can easily use a standard jackstand. Doug Wirth *********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ***********************************************************************
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#6. Atlanta BMW group - from Tim Ng
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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:27:00 -0800 From: "Tim Ng" <s14realm3@peachtreebmwcca.org> Subject: Atlanta BMW group Welcome Ahmad to the Peachtree CHapter, you will love the weather here, soon you won't even miss the snow and salt of Boston. the drivers here are the same as bean town, rude and fast, just drive like a maniac and you will fit right in. Stay away from ANY highway during rush hour!!! Atlanta has many BMW car groups and the local Peachtree cha[ter is VERY active. You are within 4 hrs drive from 4 race tracks. Roebling Road in Savanhan, CMP in SOuth Carloina, Road Atlanta, Atlanta MOtor speedway, Lowes Motor speedway is 3 hrs. There are MANYYYYY track days if thats what you like. There are also lots of mountain drives thru the NOrth GA and Caolina/Tenn mountain about 2 hrs away. The club also have auto-x @ Road Atlanta coming up, Auto-x @ Michelin test track in South Carloina..... We also have a concourse every year in October. There are 2 local BMW clubs for general BMW nuts. First is the Atlanta UUC club UUCGarage-ATL@yahoogroups.com second is the Bench Racer club Bench_Racing@yahoogroups.com Both of these groups meet on tuesday evening and night for dinner and beer and b.s. The UUC group is more active with car events and DIY stuff, there are more E36 M3 owners on that one too. If you need some guidence, I am here to help as your clubs member representative. You can give me a call if you like: 404-630-6069, my e-mail address is s14realm3@peachtreebmwcca.org Our website: www.peachtreebmwcca.org is very good. We re-fresh the calender every week. You can also sign up there for up to the date E-mail list too. Tim Ng, Peachtree BMW CCA member @ large 95 M3 92 325ic M-tech 91 M3 88 M3 93 Chevy K10 Blazer if I can help, e-mail or call me Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:21:31 +0000 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Question for Atlanta/Gerogia Area Members I just moved to Atlanta from Boston. I am concerned with the insurance policy in Georgia. Do they cover your car when you are attending driver's school? For instance, NY covers it whereas MA does not. Any experiences or info please drop me a line (TIA). Plus I am also interested in getting involved with the local car clubs and meetings. I did get some info. from the CCA webpage. Wondering if there is a group of local M3 drivers who attend tracks/beer meetings etc. Ahmad 98 Boston Green Tim Ng 95 E36 M3 BzznM3 92 E30 325ic M-tech convetible 91 E30 M3 street car 88 E30 M3 Track car 93 Chevy Blazer 2 dr. tow vehicle
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#7. B&B Triflow - from DiVincenti, A.J.
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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:40:20 -0600 From: "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsuhsc.edu> Subject: B&B Triflow Did you consider B&B Triflow exhaust? I have it and love the sound. AJ -------------------- 2 -------------------- Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:05:14 -0500 From: Mike Frank <mfrank28@comcast.net> Subject: RE: M3 owners with an AA, Supersprint, or UUC exhaust? Ajay, You're welcome to listen to my UUC exhaust if you're ever in Indianapolis. It's NOT quiet but it sounds very good. I've had many people tell me how good it sounds. In fact, I guy followed me home last week because it sounded good and he wanted to find out what kind it was.
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Questions about jack stands? - from Johnny Lee
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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:14:47 -0500 From: Johnny Lee <mclee@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Questions about jack stands? That is a great solution. Do they fit E36 chassis without any modification? This is of course after I bought 3 new hockey pucks + 3 new E46 jack pads, drill hole, put new pins (from E46 jack pad) in it to secure them (following Ron's procedure)... Thanks, -Johnny -----Original Message----- From: Doug Wirth [mailto:DWirth@serena.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:36 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Questions about jack stands? Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:28:29 -0800 From: Doug Wirth <DWirth@serena.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Questions about jack stands? It is much easier to go to the dealer and get E46 pads they are rectangle shaped instead of round. You can easily use a standard jackstand. Doug Wirth
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#9. E36 rear control arms (wishbones) and bushings - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:34:09 -0600 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: E36 rear control arms (wishbones) and bushings Folks, I'm about to order two sets of rear E36 lower wishbones (control arms) and some bushings. One for my car, one for my wife's. Three out of four of those babies on our two cars are bent. I am also thinking of swapping lower wishbone bushings, rear trailing arm bushes and rear axle carrier bushes while I'm in there. Both are street cars, with mine getting a little bit more track time than hers. Has anyone on this list gone through a similar procedure in the past? What suppliers did you use? Did you go with stock or some exotic aftermarket bushings? Did I miss anything? TIA, alex
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#10. Re: Starter Removal - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:51:42 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Starter Removal on 11/6/02 10:55 AM, "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsuhsc.edu> wrote: > Has anyone removed the starter from their M3? What is the best way to get > at this thing? The official way is from above, which requires first removing all the intake plumbing including the manifold, and then replacing the various seals and gaskets on re-assembly. Mine was done this way under warranty by the dealer. According to Brett Anderson it's possible, with appropriate tools and experience, to do it from below. I don't know whether those tools include 12" long triple-jointed fingers, but it's possible. There are also two different starter bolt arrangements. One has a bolt and loose nut, the other a bolt that goes into a tapped hole. The first is harder to work with due to the need to hold the nut. Neil 96 M3
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#11. Re: [E36M3] How to use child safety seats in E36 - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:52:43 -0500 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to use child safety seats in E36 Wen, The fixed end of the seatbelt fastens under the rear seat cushion, and the takeup reel feeds the belt from the top. So, if you use those metal seat belt clips (shaped somewhat like an 'H', and officially called a "Belt Shortening Clip" or "Heavy Duty Locking Clip") to fix the belt 'latchplate' in a fixed position on the belt, such that there is no slack from the fixed end of the seatbelt to the latchplate, you'll be able to firmly attach the child seat. In fact, if you make the distance slightly less than it needs to be, and then push down on the child seat prior to attaching the latchplate to the buckle, it'll be even tighter. The child seat should have come with one belt shortening clip. You can also find them at the usual kid stores (Toys R Us, etc). You can see a picture of one here: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/childps/UsingItRight2002/things_to_remember.htm Look under the "Lock It Up" section. Ron Buchalski BMWCCA #76387 1995 E36 M3 1993 E34 525iT 1999 Mazda Miata >Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 14:00:54 -0800 >From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] How to use child safety seats in E36 > > >From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> > >Subject: Re: [E36M3] ? > >Chester is correct, if you pull the seat belt all the way out, it will > >ratchet back in, securing the child seat. Most modern cars have this. > >Not to beat on a dead horse but try securing a car seat in a E36 M3 COUPE >and then report back. The rear belts in the coupe will ratchet back but >will >not lock, there by allowing car seats to move and slide around and even a >rubber mat won't do any good. As many have found out, including the >original >poster, the belts on the coupe do act differently than the sedan. Case >closed for me :) > >Wen _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail