E36M3 #2747

Wednesday, November 06, 2002 23:07:18

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. PowerSqueak Bushing Mod - from Steve Klein
#2. Re: [E36M3] Towing - from Chester Wong
#3. [E36M3] Anyone in Chicago with a BMW code reader? - from Jeff_Wingstrom@jackmorton.com
#4. New tire time for the '99 M3 - from eevans@planetc.com
#5. Re: [E36M3] New tire time for the '99 M3 - from Jim Bassett
#6. Re: Towing - from KLchmn@aol.com
#7. Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles - from B Stoll
#8. Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles - from Jason Knight
#9. Erhard BMW --> was Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles - from B Stoll
#10. [E36M3] Uncle, uncle! - from Jay W. Hudson

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#1. PowerSqueak Bushing Mod - from Steve Klein
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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:35:00 -0600 From: Steve Klein <klein@robinsonad.com> Subject: PowerSqueak Bushing Mod Hello, all- Since the topic of the Powerflex bushing squeak came up, I'd like to get some opinions/ideas on a thought I've had to eliminate the squeak. Since the fit is so tight and essentially squeezes out all the grease as you install them, I'm hypothesizing that the squeak is caused by the large continuous surface of contact between the bushing and the central pin. My thought is to break up that continuous surface in a manner that will relieve rotational stress caused by the strike and slip of the bushing on steel and also allow for the retention of grease for continued lubrication. To do this, I've thought of either A) dimpling the inner bushing surface with a conical piece of heated metal to create a crosshatch pattern of loosely spaced 'divots' no more than 1mm deep or B) scoring a couple of crossing helical groves also about 1mm deep. Again, my goal is to break up the continuous sheet to eliminate the squeak. I'm of the opinion that the divot method will have the least impact on the functionality of the bushing. I'll also add that I left aerospace engineering for advertising, so I'm not fully certified for materials sciences. All thoughts, opinions and ideas are welcome. Thanks, Steve

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Towing - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:47:24 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Towing Well, as many know, there is a tow hook cover in the back and in the front. This is basically a threaded port in the shock absorber....and it pulls on sheet metal...yikes! People only use this to get a car on a flatbed or out of a ditch (like if you've gone off at the track). For tieing down the car, you should never use any of the control arms (front or rear). You should use t-hooks in criss-cross fashion (jump! jump!). The t-hooks attach to where the hockey pucks attach to. You insert and only when you turn it, does the t-hook stay in. A t-hook attached to the right side of the car should be tied down to the left side of the trailer. I'm not sure if it's criss crossed from front to back so that the t-hook from the left front of the car should be attached to the right rear of the trailer. Anyway, I knew this during the accident and when the flat-bedder came, he was suprised to see me pulling off the tow hook cover on the front bumper and taking the tow hook from the tool kit in the trunk. He said, "I see you've done this before." Me: "nope." Then when he was looking for a tie down and thought about using the control arm, I asked, "Do you have a t-hook?" Him: "Yep." I motioned for him to follow me. I popped off the hockey puck and let him tie it down. Then he said, "You're lying...you've done this before." Me: "nope." =) Chester --- Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> wrote: > The recent thread on bent rear control arms that > seemed to result from having the car towed made me > wonder the proper method for towing the M3. Are there > built in places to attach tie downs? Is utilization > of axles acceptable? I'm contemplating towing the car > to an upcoming event (which the wife doesn't think > makes sense, but I figure I already paid for the miles > on the leased truck, and should use them and keep them > off the car), and don't want to cause unnecessary > damage. ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/

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#3. [E36M3] Anyone in Chicago with a BMW code reader? - from Jeff_Wingstrom@jackmorton.com
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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:07:06 -0600 From: Jeff_Wingstrom@jackmorton.com Subject: [E36M3] Anyone in Chicago with a BMW code reader? Looking to borrow an engine diag code reader for my '97 M3. It just lit up the check engine light.. and I'm going to be driving Chicago -> Detroit with the family on Friday. :-\ Long shot I know, but if anybody can lend a hand in a pinch I'd be grateful (read: free beer) TIA. -Jeff W.

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#4. New tire time for the '99 M3 - from eevans@planetc.com
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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:20:49 -0500 From: eevans@planetc.com Subject: New tire time for the '99 M3 It's time for new tires on my '99 M3. Which tires are going to have a good solid sidewall w/o the noise of the old pilots? The Kumhos are very quiet, but just don't feel stiff enough for me, but they are on my '95, read below. I have a set of Kumhos on my '95 M3 and while they are very quiet, I think that the sidewalls are pretty weak. I loved my OEM pilot sports for the stiffness, but since they don't make that tire anymore, how does the replacement pilot model compare? My Kumhos on the '95 are fine and seem to be wearing well, but just a little sidewall weak, IMHO. I think I got what I paid for w/ the Kumhos ;-). TIA Evan

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#5. Re: [E36M3] New tire time for the '99 M3 - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:36:05 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] New tire time for the '99 M3 At 03:27 PM 11/6/02, eevans@planetc.com wrote: >It's time for new tires on my '99 M3. Which tires are going to have a good >solid sidewall w/o the noise of the old pilots? By "old pilots" you mean MXX3s? My two co-#1 tires are the Pilot Sports ("new pilots"? :-)) and SO-3s. I had the Pilot Sports as replacements for the OE MXX3s and like them very much. Good turn-in response and good traction in both the wet & dry. It's been a while since I've run these tires, so I can't accurately give you feedback on how noisy they were. The SO-3s are very similar to the Pilot Sports in overall performance. Pretty quiet, too. They are what I currently have on the car. Both worked well for my type of driving - 98% freeway cruising, no track time on them. My 2 cents, Jim Bassett

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#6. Re: Towing - from KLchmn@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:06:44 EST From: KLchmn@aol.com Subject: Re: Towing Jason asked about the proper way to tie down his M3 on a trailer. Jason, there is only one way to properly do this and avoid damage to your car and/or undue wear on your suspension components. You need the factory type t-hooks that fit into the space covered up by your jack pads. Check out Bob Tunnell's website www.tunnellracing.com and I think there is a 'how-to' article in there. I use the t-hooks (purchased from Bimmerhaus -- Tunnell's shop) to hold the race car in the trailer. Works like a champ. Kirk Lachman Sin City Chapter '95 M3 #21 I-stock '92 525i 5-speed w/M5 wheels FOR SALE '02 M3

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#7. Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles - from B Stoll
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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:18:21 -0600 From: "B Stoll" <bobstoll@ameritech.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles I had a door rattle fixed 2 weeks before my warranty expired. Weird - a loose nut on the airbag bracket. And on my last day of warranty, I went in with another laundry list including the leather on the seat (actually felt guilty 'bout it). They ordered the hide, and will fix it when it arrives. Always had a BMW loaner. (another dealer I tried put me in a GM rental car). This dealer is awesome, they are really trying - put a sticker on the receipt that insists they "get it right", so that when the BMW NA phone survey person calls, I give them an A+. I was fortunate to get to know a shop foreman and a couple of techs. The shop foreman actually talked me out of the extended warr. the sales-guy was pitchin' on me. So many off these mega-large BMW dealerships just play the numbers game ... and you're just another number. They are too big to care. I am so, sooo lucky after learning of others' dealer nightmares! My dealership experience actually has me considering another one. Regards, Bob Stoll 1998 M3/4 Garage Queen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:11:51 -0500 > From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles > > Just remember, it only takes 1 BAD experience dealing with a POS dealer to > get highly pissed off, especially when it concerns a expensive car. > > I loved my M3's, but doubt I will ever buy a new BMW EVER due to the dealer > experiences I had with several different dealers while I owned 2 seperate > E-36 M3s. My crybaby experience almost involved legal action to get my car > fixed for a KNOWN problem with the diff bolts coming loose. Plus I was > never refunded rental car bills, out of pocket expenses for hotel etc while > stranded even though roadside supposedly covered all of that. Damn, this > was years ago and it is pissing my off to think about it now. > > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Flanary" > > Bill: > > > > > Makes me wonder about all those crybaby letters in the ROUNDEL... > > > > David W. Flanary > > Markham Vineyards

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#8. Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles - from Jason Knight
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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:54:43 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles Alright Bob, I doubt I'm in your area, but I can't take the suspense. What's the dealership's name? Jason --- B Stoll <bobstoll@ameritech.net> wrote: > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:18:21 -0600 > From: "B Stoll" <bobstoll@ameritech.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles > > I had a door rattle fixed 2 weeks before my warranty > expired. Weird - a > loose nut on the airbag bracket. > And on my last day of warranty, I went in with > another laundry list > including the leather on the seat (actually felt > guilty 'bout it). > They ordered the hide, and will fix it when it > arrives. > Always had a BMW loaner. (another dealer I tried > put me in a GM rental > car). > This dealer is awesome, they are really trying - put > a sticker on the > receipt that insists they "get it right", > so that when the BMW NA phone survey person calls, I > give them an A+. > > I was fortunate to get to know a shop foreman and a > couple of techs. > The shop foreman actually talked me out of the > extended warr. the sales-guy > was pitchin' on me. > > So many off these mega-large BMW dealerships just > play the numbers game ... > and you're just another number. > They are too big to care. > I am so, sooo lucky after learning of others' dealer > nightmares! > My dealership experience actually has me considering > another one. > > Regards, > Bob Stoll > > 1998 M3/4 Garage Queen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:26 PM > Subject: Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles > > > > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:11:51 -0500 > > From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles > > > > Just remember, it only takes 1 BAD experience > dealing with a POS dealer to > > get highly pissed off, especially when it concerns > a expensive car. > > > > I loved my M3's, but doubt I will ever buy a new > BMW EVER due to the > dealer > > experiences I had with several different dealers > while I owned 2 seperate > > E-36 M3s. My crybaby experience almost involved > legal action to get my > car > > fixed for a KNOWN problem with the diff bolts > coming loose. Plus I was > > never refunded rental car bills, out of pocket > expenses for hotel etc > while > > stranded even though roadside supposedly covered > all of that. Damn, this > > was years ago and it is pissing my off to think > about it now. > > > > Mike > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Flanary" > > > Bill: > > > > > > > > Makes me wonder about all those crybaby letters > in the ROUNDEL... > > > > > > David W. Flanary > > > Markham Vineyards > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message to the email address > e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2

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#9. Erhard BMW  --> was Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles - from B Stoll
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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:34:25 -0600 From: "B Stoll" <bobstoll@ameritech.net> Subject: Erhard BMW --> was Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles I bought M when I lived near Detroit. Erhard is in Bloomfield Hills, MI Presently in Chicago (home of the BIG nasty dealers), I fortunately still travel to Detroit and they can schedule me in ! That reminds me, the shop foreman I know there comes to Chicago to BMW's regional training center. Most recently, the local Chicago techs were "braggin" to him about how much $$ they make, and all the tricks they do to get it ...so sad. Kind Regards, Bob 1998 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Knight" <knight2244@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:54:43 -0800 (PST) > From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles > > Alright Bob, I doubt I'm in your area, but I can't > take the suspense. What's the dealership's name? > > Jason > --- B Stoll <bobstoll@ameritech.net> wrote: > > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:18:21 -0600 > > From: "B Stoll" <bobstoll@ameritech.net> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles > > > > I had a door rattle fixed 2 weeks before my warranty > > expired. Weird - a > > loose nut on the airbag bracket. > > And on my last day of warranty, I went in with > > another laundry list > > including the leather on the seat (actually felt > > guilty 'bout it). > > They ordered the hide, and will fix it when it > > arrives. > > Always had a BMW loaner. (another dealer I tried > > put me in a GM rental > > car). > > This dealer is awesome, they are really trying - put > > a sticker on the > > receipt that insists they "get it right", > > so that when the BMW NA phone survey person calls, I > > give them an A+. > > > > I was fortunate to get to know a shop foreman and a > > couple of techs. > > The shop foreman actually talked me out of the > > extended warr. the sales-guy > > was pitchin' on me. > > > > So many off these mega-large BMW dealerships just > > play the numbers game ... > > and you're just another number. > > They are too big to care. > > I am so, sooo lucky after learning of others' dealer > > nightmares! > > My dealership experience actually has me considering > > another one. > > > > Regards, > > Bob Stoll > > > > 1998 M3/4 Garage Queen > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:11:51 -0500 > > > From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] warranty of rattles > > > > > > Just remember, it only takes 1 BAD experience > > dealing with a POS dealer to > > > get highly pissed off, especially when it concerns > > a expensive car. > > > > > > I loved my M3's, but doubt I will ever buy a new > > BMW EVER due to the > > dealer > > > experiences I had with several different dealers > > while I owned 2 seperate > > > E-36 M3s. My crybaby experience almost involved > > legal action to get my > > car > > > fixed for a KNOWN problem with the diff bolts > > coming loose. Plus I was > > > never refunded rental car bills, out of pocket > > expenses for hotel etc > > while > > > stranded even though roadside supposedly covered > > all of that. Damn, this > > > was years ago and it is pissing my off to think > > about it now. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "David Flanary" > > > > Bill: > > > > > > > > > > > Makes me wonder about all those crybaby letters > > in the ROUNDEL... > > > > > > > > David W. Flanary > > > > Markham Vineyards > >

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#10. [E36M3] Uncle, uncle! - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 21:03:28 -0800 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@cdsnet.net> Subject: [E36M3] Uncle, uncle! I guess I started a firestorm with the jackstand deal. I don't have pucks on my car. Weren't there when I bought it. I regularly use jackstands where the pucks should be with no problems. I've been working under cars for 40 years and have rarely had the benefit of a hoist. I ain't squashed yet. Having said that, I would never recommend that anyone jack or support there car in an unsafe manner. You don't usually get a 2nd chance. Jay

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