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#1. Re: [E36M3] results: S02s on the front / S03s on the rear - from Jon Phillips
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Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 11:15:39 -0800 From: jon@maximumpc.com (Jon Phillips) Subject: Re: [E36M3] results: S02s on the front / S03s on the rear I was in the exact same situation about four months ago: needed new rears; fronts were fine. I opted on a full set of SO3s because I was worried about mixing rubber. That said -- is it possible that your rears just need to be broken in? I found that my SO2 break-in was very quick, while my SO3s required *at least* 500 miles. I stopped noticing a greasiness around 1000 miles. I'll also say the SO3s appear to be lasting much longer, tread-life-wise. But all in all, I like the SO2s better: they seemed to track better in a straight line, and suffer less bump steer. But that might just be in my head; it's all very difficult to tell without comparing one right after the other on the same road. For what it's worth, other e36 m3 owners feel mixing axles between SO3s and SO2s is OK. I wouldn't worry too much about it on the street, though I'd consider the issues at hand on the track. At 09:47 AM 12/2/2002, Zack Steinkamp wrote: >Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:43:36 -0800 (PST) >From: Zack Steinkamp <edsarkiss@yahoo.com> >Subject: results: S02s on the front / S03s on the rear > >partially based on the feedback i got from the list, i >decided to go ahead and replace my worn out rear S02s >with S03s, leaving the healthy S02s on the front. > >i ordered the tires from tirerack.com and had them >shipped to Custom Alignment in mountain view for >installation (a VERY good process, IMHO). > >they aligned all four corners a couple of months ago >after i installed the H&R Coilovers and RD sways. >this time, i had them balance all four wheel/tires, >even though only the rears were being replaced. > >when i picked the car up they had me initial a clause >on the invoice saying that i realized that the >handling characteristics of the car may be different. > >this was definitely the case. > >it feels really twitchy on the freeway and around >corners. i drove down 17 to santa cruz over the >weekend and found myself steering much more than i >usually do (i can drive 17 with my eyes closed -- not >that i would ;-). > >maybe i'm just thinking about it too much, but it just >seems that the tires have signifigantly different >characters. the difference in the "adhesion curve" >(something i just made up) is noticable. the absolute >limits are nearly the same, but getting there is >different. does that make sense? > >the verdict: i'll be ordering S03s for the front too >as soon as escrow closes on our new house. ;-) > >fyi, just in case any of you are in a similar >situation, which i'm guessing will be the case since >the S02s are no longer available thru normal channels. > >-zs > >ps ... custom alignment really nailed the balance. >there is ZERO vibration in the steering wheel, on up >into triple digits. > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > >To issue a command/request to the server: >Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. >************************************************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jon Phillips jphillips@maximumpc.com editor-in-chief 415-656-8778 Maximum PC magazine www.maximumpc.com Maximum PC/Future Network USA 150 North Hill Drive, Ste. 40 Brisbane, CA 94005 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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#2. E36 M3 corner weighing results - from Jay G
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Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 14:23:27 -1000 From: Jay G <jguzman@hawaii.edu> Subject: E36 M3 corner weighing results first off, sorry for the cross post...i had the opportunity to corner weigh my car at a local autocross test-and-tune day yesterday...i dont have any suspension mods on the car, but it cost only $10, so i figured why not...here's the results if any of you are interested... LF/RR Cross Weight RF/LR Cross Weight 1762 lbs (51.4%) 1669 lbs (48.7%) LF: 866 lbs (25.2%) RF: 823 lbs (24.0%) LR: 847 lbs (24.7%) RR: 895 lbs (26.1%) Total Weight w/ Driver: 3431lbs (Driver is 186.5lbs) Gas Level: Full Wheelbase: 108" Track: 56" above was done with spare tire left in the trunk, and an 8lb amp on the right side of the trunk...
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#3. (re)introduction and tire question... - from Bruce
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Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 18:46:56 -0600 From: "Bruce" <gobuffs93@attbi.com> Subject: (re)introduction and tire question... I used to be on this list when I have a 98 M roadster (long since sold). I recently purchased a 95 M3 (white/black- 59k miles on it) for a daily driver. The rear tires need to be replaced (in addition to the rear sway bar tabs needing reinforcement). The car has 5 MXX3s- the 2 rears being near the wear bars, while the other 3 are in pretty good shape. I can't figure out exacly how many miles are on them and I have no idea how to accurately measure the tread depth on them. They appear to have between 1/4 and 3/8s left on the 3 good tires. I know the MXX3s are loved by many, but finding 2 new ones is next to impossible. Is there are market to sell the 3 tires I have left? What are they worth? I want to replace all 4 as the car seems a bit nervous on the highway (and thats before 2 new rear tires) Thanks, Bruce 95 M3 89 M3
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#4. '95 M3 dash noise - from eevans@planetc.com
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Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 21:04:33 -0500 From: eevans@planetc.com Subject: '95 M3 dash noise I know this is going to sound very strange, but I have this weird squeaking noise coming from the front instrument panel. I swear it sounds like a tape being rewound. It's very faint, but I do hear it only when moving. No it isn't the Beatles's album being played backwards, but it does sound like a recording being run backwards. I have no idea where to go first other than pulling the instrument panel out and looking. Is there a speedo cable involved here or is it electronic? TIA Evan Evans President Smoky Mountain Chapter
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#5. Re: [E36M3] '95 M3 dash noise - from NickG
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Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:16:56 -0500 From: "NickG" <nick@tech-nick.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] '95 M3 dash noise Try varying the AC blower speed when you hear the squeeking. On my 95 M3, that was the culprit (the AC fan). Nick > Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 21:04:33 -0500 > From: eevans@planetc.com > Subject: '95 M3 dash noise > > I know this is going to sound very strange, but I have this weird squeaking noise coming from the front instrument panel. I swear it sounds like a tape being rewound. It's very faint, but I do hear it only when moving. No it isn't the Beatles's album being played backwards, but it does sound like a recording being run backwards. I have no idea where to go first other than pulling the instrument panel out and looking. Is there a speedo cable involved here or is it electronic? > > TIA > > Evan Evans > President > Smoky Mountain Chapter
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#6. RE: ABS Control Unit ?s - from Butch Berney
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Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:34:51 -0800 From: "Butch Berney" <butchberney@attbi.com> Subject: RE: ABS Control Unit ?s If I remember correctly, the rear channel of ABS on the 95M3 is a single channel. I don't think the right and left sides are actuated individually. It is possible that the ABS control unit is faulty, but I don't think it would cause one of the rear sides to lock prematurely. You may want to solicit a second opinion from another dealer or independent. Good luck, Butch -------------------- 6 -------------------- Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 11:43:59 -0500 From: eevans@planetc.com Subject: ABS Control Unit ?s Gruppe, My '95 M3 has been diagnosed w/ a faulty ABS control unit. The dealer read the codes and it says that I have a faulty valve that controls the left rear wheel...
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#7. Re: [E36M3] (re)introduction and tire question... - from David Ripton
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Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 07:58:20 -0500 From: David Ripton <dripton@ripton.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] (re)introduction and tire question... Bruce wrote: > The rear tires need to be replaced (in addition to the rear sway bar tabs > needing reinforcement). The car has 5 MXX3s- the 2 rears being near the > wear bars, while the other 3 are in pretty good shape. I can't figure out > exacly how many miles are on them and I have no idea how to accurately > measure the tread depth on them. They appear to have between 1/4 and 3/8s > left on the 3 good tires. I know the MXX3s are loved by many, but finding 2 > new ones is next to impossible. Is there are market to sell the 3 tires I > have left? What are they worth? It's a buyer's market. I needed to replace two MXX3s last year (small sharp metal objects should not be left on roads), and each time I found plenty of people with one or two good MXX3s to unload. They were surprisingly cheap -- around $75 each IIRC. So in your shoes I'd try to buy one (IMO having a spare near the wear bars is no big deal) or two used MXX3s before trying to sell three. (I actually have a couple wasting garage space, but unfortunately they're 225/45 and 245/40, not the 235/40 size that you want for a 1995 M3.) -- David Ripton dripton@ripton.net
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#8. Looking for a part number - from Lee E. Piccione
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Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 08:18:25 -0500 From: "Lee E. Piccione" <leepic@smart.net> Subject: Looking for a part number Anyone have the part number for a Euro HFM for a '95 M3? Thanks, Lee '95 Violet
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#9. Re: [E36M3] (re)introduction and tire question... - from Dave Kelley
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Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:43:48 -0500 From: "Dave Kelley" <d.kelley@usa.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] (re)introduction and tire question... David, You don't say for sure, what size tires you have. If they are 235/40's, I have one MXX3 in pretty decent shape that I can sell you for $75 plus shipping. If they are 245/40's, I might be interested in buying them. If they are 225/45's, then I can't use them. Dave Kelley > Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 07:58:20 -0500 > From: David Ripton <dripton@ripton.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] (re)introduction and tire question... > > Bruce wrote: > > > The rear tires need to be replaced (in addition to the rear sway bar tabs > > needing reinforcement). The car has 5 MXX3s- the 2 rears being near the > > wear bars, while the other 3 are in pretty good shape. I can't figure out > > exacly how many miles are on them and I have no idea how to accurately > > measure the tread depth on them. They appear to have between 1/4 and 3/8s > > left on the 3 good tires. I know the MXX3s are loved by many, but finding 2 > > new ones is next to impossible. Is there are market to sell the 3 tires I > > have left? What are they worth? > > It's a buyer's market. I needed to replace two MXX3s last year (small > sharp metal objects should not be left on roads), and each time I found > plenty of people with one or two good MXX3s to unload. They were > surprisingly cheap -- around $75 each IIRC. > > So in your shoes I'd try to buy one (IMO having a spare near the wear > bars is no big deal) or two used MXX3s before trying to sell three. (I > actually have a couple wasting garage space, but unfortunately they're > 225/45 and 245/40, not the 235/40 size that you want for a 1995 M3.) > > -- > David Ripton dripton@ripton.net > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#10. New Years @ Laguna Seca? - from twisty M3
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Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 14:10:13 -0800 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: New Years @ Laguna Seca? Any listers planning on attending the DCI school at Laguna Seca this Dec. 30th, followed by a New Years Eve party the next day in Monterey? Looks like I'll probably be going to help out and just want to see if any familiar faces will be around to help ring in the new year. Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus