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#1. Re:Best street brake pad... - from Steven Hazard
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 07:19:32 -0500 From: "Steven Hazard" <98m3@attbi.com> Subject: Re:Best street brake pad... Juan I also use the R4S pads. I really like these pads for serious Autocross work, and tracktime. IMHO they have great "feel" vs. the OEM pads. At the track I use a brake ducting setup to keep the pads in their temp range. I have beat the snot out of these pads at the track, and they allow me to brake very late and very hard. With the brake cooling kit I have no fade issues, and the pads are very linear for threshold braking etc. I can work these pads right up to the ABS system kicking in... I'm very sensitive to pedal feel because I'm a left foot braker. Everyone has an opinion on brake pads :-) Bob Tunnell uses Hawk HP+ brake pads and you might want to try those if your in the mood to try something else. Please keep in mind that just changing pads is not going to "improve" your braking distances.... It all comes down to how they feel to you....Our cars have outstanding brakes to begin with! HTH, Steve > Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:40:44 -0800 > From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > Subject: Best street brake pad... > > > OK., so I've been using Porterfield street brake pads (R4S) on my 95 M3 for > the past 3 years because of their low brake dust benefit. > > However, now I'm really looking to improve my braking versus stock. On the > street. Honestly, I can't say these pads were ever better than the Jurid > stock pads. If anything, the Jurids were even better, albeit far more dusty. > Then again, my brakes were newer then, so that could be the reason. > > So, my question is: What are the best brake pads out there for street use? > Are there any real street brake pads that are DEFINITELY better > > than the stock Jurids? Hawk? Mintex? Repco? I imagine pads are like engine > oils-everybody has a personal favorite. > > If there isn't a general consensus on a pad in particular, I'm going back to > the stock Jurids... > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Juan. > > > >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] RE: Driver's ed intercoms - from Dave Kelley
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:46:27 -0500 From: "Dave Kelley" <d.kelley@usa.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Driver's ed intercoms Oh come on you guy! The Nady's are fine. You just have to have three complete sets to be sure that you can put together one that works! :-) Dave Kelley > Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:17:31 -0500 > From: "Marc Plante" <marc@plante.com> > Subject: RE: Driver's ed intercoms > > > Buy a Chatterbox model 50 and get a student's headset. The Nady's are crap. > You get to install two ear speakers and a mic in your helmet which help you > hear your student hyperventilating much better. Also, it may look cool to > mount the unit on your helmet, but it makes it really hard to get to power > and volume controls in the car. Just leave it loose. > > The link below has them fairly cheap. > > > http://www.accwhse.com/ > > Marc Plante > E36 325i, 209k > Vienna, VA > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#3. Another Spring/Shock Question - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:21:11 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Another Spring/Shock Question Oft repeated but always curious on current data... I am looking to put the euro E36 M3 springs on my car this winter (slightly stiffer and slightly lower but still very close to a stock set-up and very streetable). I have been thinking about what the best shock/strut insert to combine with them and I have narrowed down my choices to the Bilstein Sport and the Koni SA. Furthermore, if I go the Koni SA route, I would likely go with the externally adjustable shocks that are offered by TC Kline or Ground Control. - So, has anyone here combined euro E36 M3 springs with any of these shocks (Bilstein Sport, GC Koni SA or TCK Koni SA)? - Does the rebound and compression of the Bilsteins go well with stock springs or the euro E36 M3 springs? - Does the compression of the Konis go well with stock springs or the euro E36 M3 springs? - Any particular comments on the effectiveness of either set-up? - Best place to buy? Private or public replies gladly accepted. Best regards, Rich 95 M3 - stock suspension 90 325is - E30 M3 springs and Bilstein Sports (nice combination)
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#4. Re: Poor pedal feel - will rebuild help? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:56:38 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Poor pedal feel - will rebuild help? on 12/17/02 9:36 PM, "Rob" <speedmaster@telus.net> wrote: > My M3 brakes don't feel very good. I have bled them many times with > Motul 600, have SS lines and Hawk pads but at the track they still require a > two-pump brake technique to feel hard and confidence inspiring. My last > resort is to rebuild the front calipers. Does anyone think this might > improve the feel and make them less mushy feeling? A rebuild may help if the caliper pistons are tending to stick a bit, preventing their self-adjusting feature from working right. If that doesn't help and you still need a double pump on the pedal then you could need a new master cylinder (about $325 for the part). All this obviously assumes that the brake system is in fact completely free of trapped air. Neil 96 M3
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Another Spring/Shock Question - from DocWyte
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:12:46 -0800 (PST) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Another Spring/Shock Question I've got the externally adjustable koni SA's with stock springs on my M. I'm very happy with the handling and ride quality. With them on full soft they still have plenty of damping to control the springs, yet the ride is practically stock quality. Then I can crank them up and increase the handling, with some detriment to ride quality. -josh --- "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> wrote: > Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:21:11 -0500 > From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> > Subject: Another Spring/Shock Question > > Oft repeated but always curious on current data... > > I am looking to put the euro E36 M3 springs on my > car this winter (slightly stiffer and slightly lower > but still very close to a stock set-up and very > streetable). I have been thinking about what the > best shock/strut insert to combine with them and I > have narrowed down my choices to the Bilstein Sport > and the Koni SA. Furthermore, if I go the Koni SA > route, I would likely go with the externally > adjustable shocks that are offered by TC Kline or > Ground Control. > > - So, has anyone here combined euro E36 M3 springs > with any of these shocks (Bilstein Sport, GC Koni SA > or TCK Koni SA)? > > - Does the rebound and compression of the Bilsteins > go well with stock springs or the euro E36 M3 > springs? > > - Does the compression of the Konis go well with > stock springs or the euro E36 M3 springs? > > - Any particular comments on the effectiveness of > either set-up? > > - Best place to buy? > > Private or public replies gladly accepted. > > Best regards, > > Rich > > 95 M3 - stock suspension > 90 325is - E30 M3 springs and Bilstein Sports (nice > combination) > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message to the email address > e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > ===== Josh Wyte Momentum Motorsports 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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#6. Please stop sending all replies of the E36 forum to my account - from M Dude
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:26:37 -0800 (PST) From: M Dude <m3power95@yahoo.com> Subject: Please stop sending all replies of the E36 forum to my account I checked the wrong item when I signed up for the forum, and I would not like to receive every e-mail that every person replied to. Thanks. M3Power95 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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#7. Helmet radio and trailering - from Jason Knight
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:20:20 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Helmet radio and trailering Thanks to all the responses about the intercom system for instructing. The consensus was that the Chatterbox product was superior to the Nady product, and I ordered from a nice gentleman at HMS Motorsport, which seemed to have about the lowest price. On a separate note, last weekend a friend borrowed our truck and trailer to move his '68 Chrysler Newport. Going downhill the trailer began to get loose, and the friend attempted to stear the truck to avoid the trailer getting looser. This resulted in the truck and trailer doing a 180 (which I can mentally picture, but can't believe), the tie downs breaking, and the Newport flipping off the trailer, thus stopping their spin. All four passengers were fine, as was the truck. Newport is dead, and the trailer will require extensive repairs. I believe the event could have been prevented had the driver engaged the trailer breaks (our open trailer had (oops, has) breaks on all four wheels), which he did not think to do. Most people on this list probably know this, but I know I was becoming fairly complacent about trailering of late, and could use a reminder once in a while. Have a safe and happy holiday season folks. Thank you! Jason __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Another Spring/Shock Question - from Michael
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:46:04 -0500 From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Another Spring/Shock Question On my LTW M3, which uses the euro M3 springs. I installed B sports, which BTW, were supposedly valved for the euro springs. I found the combination to be very good. Not too stiff for daily driving, but also still a decent setup for the track. If I did less than 5-7 schools a year and used the car on the street, it would be my first choice. Just make sure you do cut the bump stops, that made a night and day difference in ride quality for my car. Aswell, some folks go with Koni's just for this reason, which doenst make sense to me at all as you have to cut your old struts to insert the Konis. Taking the Bilsteins apart is straight forward and easy to do, compared to all the cutting for the Konis. One thing to make note of though. if you use the euro spring and bilstein shocks, it will raise your car. so keep that in mind. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:26 AM Subject: [E36M3] Another Spring/Shock Question Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:21:11 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Another Spring/Shock Question Oft repeated but always curious on current data... I am looking to put the euro E36 M3 springs on my car this winter (slightly stiffer and slightly lower but still very close to a stock set-up and very streetable). I have been thinking about what the best shock/strut insert to combine with them and I have narrowed down my choices to the Bilstein Sport and the Koni SA. Furthermore, if I go the Koni SA route, I would likely go with the externally adjustable shocks that are offered by TC Kline or Ground Control. - So, has anyone here combined euro E36 M3 springs with any of these shocks (Bilstein Sport, GC Koni SA or TCK Koni SA)? - Does the rebound and compression of the Bilsteins go well with stock springs or the euro E36 M3 springs? - Does the compression of the Konis go well with stock springs or the euro E36 M3 springs? - Any particular comments on the effectiveness of either set-up? - Best place to buy? Private or public replies gladly accepted. Best regards, Rich 95 M3 - stock suspension 90 325is - E30 M3 springs and Bilstein Sports (nice combination) ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Another Spring/Shock Question - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:46:34 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Another Spring/Shock Question In a message dated 12/18/02 1:20:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, josh_wyte@yahoo.com writes: > I've got the externally adjustable koni SA's with > stock springs on my M. I'm very happy with the > handling and ride quality. With them on full soft > they still have plenty of damping to control the > springs, yet the ride is practically stock quality. > Then I can crank them up and increase the handling, > with some detriment to ride quality. > I'll second what Josh just said. Only I have Koni DAs on back, so cranked up to the max, the ride is bone crushing...and that can't be good for RSMs ;-)) The euro springs should add to what are already great struts/shocks, IMHO. Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion '97 & '00 BSP Champion '01 & '02
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Best street brake pad... - from Peter Guagenti
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:03:35 -0800 From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Best street brake pad... on 12/17/02 6:10 PM, Chris Teague at cteague@cox.net wrote: > I am very happy with the Axxis Ultimate's that > PeterG recommended. less dust than stock, > and more grip, and no squeal, and a nice linear > feel. What more could you want? I've been playing around testing pad compound lately, and still really love the Axxis Pads, as well as the Carbotech Panthers. The R4/R4s pads just failed me too often to ever bother with them again. For those of you with the UUC Very Serious Brakes, I picked up a set of Raybestos "Brute Stops". On top of getting a cool NASCAR sticker with my purchase, I was astonished at the price -- a little over $100 for front and rear! Overall they have excellent grip, low dust, and very little squeal. The pony car guys swear by 'em. I don't know if they make these pads for us "furren" cars. -peterg