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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Ground Control Coilover Set-ups - from DocWyte
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Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:21:26 -0800 (PST) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Ground Control Coilover Set-ups The H&R sports are far less than that! I've never liked them, not enough roll stiffness for me. -josh --- Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> wrote: > Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:13:15 -0500 > From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> > Subject: Re: Ground Control Coilover Set-ups > > on 12/20/02 12:06 AM, E36M3 at e36m3@bmw-m.net > wrote: > > > > The ground control shortened rear konis require an > 11.5 MAXIMUM rear ride > > height, from center of the wheel to fender lip. > This is pretty low, the > > rear tire is tucked quite a bit. (someone please > correct me if I'm wrong, > > I got this from a guy at ground control that > wasn't Jay) > > That's really low. > > My car with H&R Sports measures about 12 1/4", with > the rear tire pretty > well tucked under the fender. I wouldn't want it to > be any lower, unless as > a dedicated track car. > > > Then, I'd run double adjustable konis in the > front. Keeps the car more > > stable under trail braking, plus gives fantastic > turn in. > > Yeah, but silly $$$$, unfortunately. > > > 400 lb/in springs in the front, 525 barrel shaped > springs in the rear. > > How does that compare in rate with H&R Sports? > > Neil > 96 M3 > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message to the email address > e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > ===== Josh Wyte Momentum Motorsports 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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#2. E30 Engine (slightly OT) - from Jason Knight
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Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:29:18 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: E30 Engine (slightly OT) A friend managed to hydro lock the engine in his E30 325i recently during a "big storm" here in Santa Barbara. The best price he can find for a new engine (M20) is $1000 (I believe just for the hardware). I believe some esteemed members here are knowledgeable in this area. And my apologies for getting off topic. If I could convince my wife that we need a fifth car, I would probably have an e30 and would know where to turn. Thank you. Jason __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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#3. Re: Ground Control Coilover Set-ups - from kitwetzler@mindspring.com
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Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:45:33 -0500 From: "kitwetzler@mindspring.com" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Ground Control Coilover Set-ups > > 400 lb/in springs in the front, 525 barrel shaped springs in the rear. > How does that compare in rate with H&R Sports? about double in the front and almost double in the rear. Surprisingly it over anything more than a small bump, it rides better than H&R sports, because the springs are stiff enough to keep the car off the bumpstops. -kit -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
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#4. Re: Monoball Trailing Arm Bushingsq - from Ron Katona
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Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 22:46:48 -0500 From: Ron Katona <rkatona@cox.net> Subject: Re: Monoball Trailing Arm Bushingsq I think there are a couple things at work here Rich. First, NVH is subjective - simply no way to quantify it. You can quantify the dB level, but not how a particular individual perceives noise and vibration. Second, this area of the E36 is naturally very sensitive to introducing NVH to the cabin because the bushing carrier is bolted right to the underside of the passenger compartment. The S2000 uses A arms front and rear (gosh, what a novel concept) and the rear lower arms are mounted to a tubular subframe, not directly to the chassis. I'd bet that there is rubber isolation between this subframe and the chassis, so they can get away with using solid bushings. On primarily a street car, I'd go with the 96+ bushings and the GC spacers. -- Ron Katona Dorffer, Rich wrote: > This is one I don't exactly understand. I thought some other cars used a monoball style > rear trailing arm bushing (S2000 and long with others if IIRC) and it is considered a > superior design for a street car. I have even heard that many are shocked or surprised BMW > didn't do this on the M3 and the rubber bushings only add compliance to the suspension in an > area where a more solid design is considered superior with no increase in NVH. > > I have heard some with the TC Kline Monoball (http://www.tckline.com/OPC/monoball.html) say > they are great and aren't loud at all and eliminate suspension compliance with no downside. > Others say the are OBNOXIOUSLY LOUD. Is this a case that a little wear and tear allows the > monoballs to wear and make a bunch of noise when they didn't initially? If so, how do the > other OE applications get away with a monoball set-up without the additional NVH? > > I have wavered between using a monoball trailing arm bushing and using the +'96 M3 RTAB with > GC reinforcements for a while on my 1995 M3. The car is largely used on the street and, for > the most part, I like the street set-up best for street and occasional track use. This same > dilemma seems to exist for the camber/caster plates too although it seems like most say they > are noisy. > > Can anyone explain this to me or enlighten me as to why there are such diverging opinions > and applications?
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#5. Re: [E36M3] E36 radiator:good replacement or same as orig.? - from Ron Katona
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Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 23:07:39 -0500 From: Ron Katona <rkatona@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 radiator:good replacement or same as orig.? Chris Papademetrious wrote: > The BMW water pump's impeller that went into my car over this past summer > was made of a much stronger-feeling black plastic, rather than the weak > white plastic that the original pump (and its leftover pieces) were made of. Same here. I'm now on the third pump on my car; I replaced the original one preemptively about 60,000 miles ago. The metal impeller replacement failed during an autocross a few weeks ago. The metal impeller did not disintegrate, but the bearings on the pump failed causing the shaft to tilt forward. This caused the fan blade to contact the radiator (no damage, fortunately) which broke off two fan blades and mangled the fan belt. I've used BMW coolant and distilled water as long as I've owned the car, so the pump should have lasted more than 60,000 miles. The newer pump looks better built and hopefully will last at least twice as long. -- Ron Katona
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#6. Re: Any gains/drawbacks to removing the AC? - from Ron Katona
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Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 23:36:42 -0500 From: Ron Katona <rkatona@cox.net> Subject: Re: Any gains/drawbacks to removing the AC? William T. Wallace wrote: > I was pondering the idea of removing the AC on my 95 M3. The car is not > a daily driver. Has anyone done this if so are there any gains or > drawbacks to be had? I did it last year on an E36 323is in preparation for going to the Solo-II nationals. Many others driving E36s there do the same thing. We removed the compressor, two lines running from it, the belt and tensioner, and the dryer. Total weight was about 25 lb. Once you open up the lines to the dryer, it's pretty much ruined (and it runs about $180), although I've heard that you can bake it in an oven at low temp to get all the humidity out of it. We did not remove the evaporator and the many miscellaneous parts and hoses that are associated with the rest of the A/C system. If we did, I imagine there might be up to ~40 lb weight savings possible. That weight is way up front, so it's a significant amount on an M3. Most of the weight savings you can get on an E36 for typical amateur competition comes from the front seats back, so many competition prepared cars are nose heavy (my car is 53%-47% prepared for autocross with the A/C intact). For that reason, partial or complete removal of the A/C is an attractive option. For a street car, I think 20-40 lb is pretty insignificant and I'd leave it in because of all the other benefits that a working A/C provides. -- Ron Katona
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#7. 2-Post Lift for New Garage: Questions - from David Hogg
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 06:36:26 -0500 From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> Subject: 2-Post Lift for New Garage: Questions My company's building itself a small office building in a few months. It will incorporate a "walk-out basement" with garage on the lower level for "delivery vehicles and receiving" (translation: I-Stock E36 M3). I want to put a 2-post, bolt-down lift in there but the bottom of the 1st floor truss is 8'-6" from the lower level floor. The trusses are 20" deep, so I've got some more room up there to fit posts in if I work around the trusses. I know I'll be relegated to working on the car while laying on a creeper or (if I'm lucky) sitting an office chair with rollers, but I just can't get any more clearance. My 'net research shows that pricing on these types of lifts runs $2-3K plus setup, and that there are indeed models that will fit. Any suggestions you may have as to features, brands, things to look for, etc. would be much appreciated. TIA! Dave Hogg
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#8. Re: [E36M3] E36 radiator:good replacement or same as orig.? - from Jeremy Lucas
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 06:38:19 -0500 From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 radiator:good replacement or same as orig.? Ron, Sounds like the perfect time to pitch that stock fan and do the fan delete mod. If you feel the need (or live somewhere hot) you can add a spal supplemental electric fan. http://www.ohiomotorcycle.com/understeer/fanclutchmod.shtml Jeremy Lucas 95 M3 - fanless amoung other things ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Katona" <rkatona@cox.net> > Same here. I'm now on the third pump on my car; I replaced the original > one preemptively about 60,000 miles ago. The metal impeller replacement > failed during an autocross a few weeks ago. The metal impeller did not > disintegrate, but the bearings on the pump failed causing the shaft to > tilt forward. This caused the fan blade to contact the radiator (no > damage, fortunately) which broke off two fan blades and mangled the fan
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#9. RE: [E36M3] A bit OT: Disputing a handicap parking violation - from Kin Fong
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 07:09:01 -0500 From: Kin Fong <kfong@optonline.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] A bit OT: Disputing a handicap parking violation Jay, There is a difference in term between "parking / stopping". Go read you driving manual. Each state should be the same. IN NYC No stopping meant NO STOPPING not even loading or unloading. No parking meant you can stop/park, loading and unloading. You are inside the car (Due to Raining ) and you are stopping and waiting for loading or unloading at the spot. That officer should have asked you to leave and if you refused then he would write you a ticket. I will go to the court with the driving manual in hand and explain to the Judge. Good Luck. Happy Holidays Kin Fong NJ Chapter
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#10. RE: [E36M3] A bit OT: Disputing a handicap parking violation - from DocWyte
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 06:10:56 -0800 (PST) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] A bit OT: Disputing a handicap parking violation Except most handicapped parking spots are no stopping. If you want to wait outside a building, there are usually ample spots in front to do so and not take up a handicapped spot. -josh --- Kin Fong <kfong@optonline.net> wrote: > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 07:09:01 -0500 > From: Kin Fong <kfong@optonline.net> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] A bit OT: Disputing a handicap > parking violation > > > Jay, > > There is a difference in term between "parking / > stopping". Go read you driving manual. Each state > should be the same. > > IN NYC No stopping meant NO STOPPING not even > loading or unloading. > > No parking meant you can stop/park, loading and > unloading. > > You are inside the car (Due to Raining ) and you are > stopping and waiting for loading or unloading at the > spot. > > That officer should have asked you to leave and if > you refused then he would write you a ticket. > > I will go to the court with the driving manual in > hand and explain to the Judge. > > > Good Luck. > Happy Holidays > > Kin Fong > NJ Chapter > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message to the email address > e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > ===== Josh Wyte Momentum Motorsports 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com