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#1. Re: [E36M3] Front Camber - from Chris Teague
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:57:04 -0800 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front Camber Jim, 95 hats are the same L and R. 96-99 hats are offset, and are different L and R. Putting a 95 hat on a 96-99 car will give you roughly 1 degree more camber. The 96-99 hats are offset, so swapping them on a 96-99 car will give you roughly 2 degrees more camber. But in any case, the 95 hat on the 96-99 should give you exactly half the increase as swapping the hats, since you are moving the strut top only half the distance. So the only question is how much camber do you want? If you want a bunch, swap the hats L&R. If want more than stock, but still have some tire life for the street, then putting the 95 hats on a 96-99 is a good way to do that. That's what I did on my 97. And to complete the scenerio, putting 96-99 hats on a 95 will reduce camber in the stock postion, and swapping them L to R on a 95 should give about 1 degree more camber. And of course, lowering adds camber also. Chris 97 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 11:18:05 -0800 > From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front Camber > > At 08:56 AM 1/1/03, Chuck Hanson wrote: > >I'm about to buy a set of '95 front strut "hats" for my '97 M3/4 for > >street/occaisional autocross use. I understand this will give me about 2 to > >2.5 degrees of negative camber. > > I wasn't aware that '95 hats on a 96+ would do that. Hmmm.... > > But, you can just swap your existing hats L<->R, getting about 2.5 degrees > of negative camber. Parts price is free :-) > > Jim Bassett > 1998 M3/4 > 1993 325is #44
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#2. Re: [E36M3] WTB: LTW wing risers (extensions) - from Michael
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 15:04:34 -0500 From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] WTB: LTW wing risers (extensions) Just wondering what the going price is for these NLA parts now? I have a feeling you can just buy a LTW wing copy with the molded extensions built in cheaper than buying the extensions seperately. I just took the extensions off my LTW, thought about making some copies, should not be too hard. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "DocWyte" <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:26 AM Subject: [E36M3] WTB: LTW wing risers (extensions) > Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 07:21:45 -0800 (PST) > From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> > Subject: WTB: LTW wing risers (extensions) > > Picking up a racepad.com ltw wing but don't have the > risers. Anyone have a spare set of these lying around > they'd like to get rid of? > > Thanks! > > -josh > > ===== > Josh Wyte > Momentum Motorsports > 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > ************************************************* > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Front Camber - from Michael
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 15:16:27 -0500 From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front Camber Also, rotating 95 hats 120degrees will give you about -2.5 to -3.2 degrees of camber, depending on how low your car is. Keep the hats on the same side, just unbolt, jack car up and rotate, then lower the car back down. If you stand over a 95 and just look at the hats, you will see how the offset hole will move the tops in towards the engine resulting in increased camber etc. On my car, rotating the hats gave me -3.2,using H&R over the counter 'race'springs with H&R sports, I think I had about -2.8 Rotating is an easy way to adjust the car for the track, then turn back for normal driving. It will reduce the caster from -8 to -4 when rotated, but for tracking driving, a very nil effect, if noticed at all. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front Camber > Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:57:04 -0800 > From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front Camber > > Jim, > > 95 hats are the same L and R. > 96-99 hats are offset, and are different L and R. > > Putting a 95 hat on a 96-99 car will give you roughly > 1 degree more camber. The 96-99 hats are offset, > so swapping them on a 96-99 car will give you roughly > 2 degrees more camber. But in any case, the 95 hat on > the 96-99 should give you exactly half the increase as swapping > the hats, since you are moving the strut top only half the > distance. > > So the only question is how much camber do you want? > If you want a bunch, swap the hats L&R. If want more > than stock, but still have some tire life for the street, then putting > the 95 hats on a 96-99 is a good way to do that. That's > what I did on my 97. > > And to complete the scenerio, putting 96-99 hats on a 95 > will reduce camber in the stock postion, and swapping > them L to R on a 95 should give about 1 degree more camber. > > And of course, lowering adds camber also. > > Chris > 97 M3/4 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 11:18:05 -0800 > > From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front Camber > > > > At 08:56 AM 1/1/03, Chuck Hanson wrote: > > >I'm about to buy a set of '95 front strut "hats" for my '97 M3/4 for > > >street/occaisional autocross use. I understand this will give me about 2 > to > > >2.5 degrees of negative camber. > > > > I wasn't aware that '95 hats on a 96+ would do that. Hmmm.... > > > > But, you can just swap your existing hats L<->R, getting about 2.5 degrees > > of negative camber. Parts price is free :-) > > > > Jim Bassett > > 1998 M3/4 > > 1993 325is #44 > > > > > > ************************************************* > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Front Camber - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 12:34:49 -0800 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@cdsnet.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front Camber If you're going to go with -2 degrees or more, I'd set the front toe close to zero. Maybe just a tic of toe-in. For maximum tread life, swap the tires from left to right on the wheels about half way thru their tread life. Unless, of course, you're wearing the outsides on the track or auto-x. Regarding a previous post about S03 wear. I have about 3800 miles (almosy all freeway) on my 255/35-18 S03s. They show about 2/33nds wear. That's about 25% of their usable tread. I doubt you can get much more than 12-15K out of them. Especially if you have some track time in there. Jay At 10:56 AM 1/1/03 -0600, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 09:57:08 -0700 >From: Chuck Hanson <chanson60@comcast.net> >Subject: Front Camber > >Happy New Year! > >I'm about to buy a set of '95 front strut "hats" for my '97 M3/4 for >street/occaisional autocross use. I understand this will give me about 2 to >2.5 degrees of negative camber. I would appreciate and first-hand reports >about just how much this will affect my front tire wear. The last car I >owned with this much camber on the street was a VW Jetta with relatively >skinny tires and the tire wear wasn't bad at all. I kind of hate the thought >of frequent S-03 replacements... > >Thanks, > >Chuck Hanson >'97 M3/4 > > > > >************************************************* >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] WTB: LTW wing risers (extensions) - from Jeremy Lucas
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:12:52 -0500 From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] WTB: LTW wing risers (extensions) I sent this offlist last time to Josh, but since it's being discussed some more.... You may want to check with MA Shaw for extensions. They make a replica wing complete with removable extensions for $750, so you could probably buy just the extensions from them. The only thing I don't know if if the MA Shaw parts work with OE parts. UUC sells a replica wing that's the equivalent of permenant built in extensions. (normally $350, "inventory reduction sale" for $195). They also have a short version but none with the extension option. Jeremy 95 M3 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> > Just wondering what the going price is for these NLA parts now? I have a > feeling you can just buy a LTW wing copy with the molded extensions built in > cheaper than buying the extensions seperately. I just took the extensions > off my LTW, thought about making some copies, should not be too hard. > > > Mike >
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#6. P/N request - from Ed Yee
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:40:42 -0500 From: "Ed Yee" <edyee@attbi.com> Subject: P/N request Anybody know the part number to the plastic thingy that screws into the underside of the hood which holds the hood insulation in place and more importantly, is adjustable to actuate the hood switch? As I recall it's kind of barrel shaped and along the passenger side fender twards the front.=20 Anybody know what I'm talking about? Thanks in advance Ed
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#7. Forged wheel - from kim.burgess@att.net
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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 23:41:20 +0000 From: kim.burgess@att.net Subject: Forged wheel Chester - Did you mean to reference < http://www.circlebmw.com/parts/wheel98/p31.htm >? Kim Burgess 99M3/2
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Front Camber - from Reid Conti
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 16:04:00 -0800 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front Camber Just another data point.. I'm at the wearbars on the front and have a few thousand miles left on my rears at this point.. 235 40 17 S03's. I've easily gotten 20,000 miles out of them. I don't track or autox, but I run them somewhat hard on the street. No burnouts or 180s (well except maybe in the rain ;), but they do get used a fair amount.. around town, not just highway. - reid > Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 12:34:49 -0800 > From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@cdsnet.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front Camber > > If you're going to go with -2 degrees or more, I'd set the front toe > close > to zero. Maybe just a tic of toe-in. For maximum tread life, swap the > tires from left to right on the wheels about half way thru their tread > life. Unless, of course, you're wearing the outsides on the track or > auto-x. > > Regarding a previous post about S03 wear. I have about 3800 miles > (almosy > all freeway) on my 255/35-18 S03s. They show about 2/33nds wear. > That's > about 25% of their usable tread. I doubt you can get much more than > 12-15K > out of them. Especially if you have some track time in there. > > Jay
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Front Camber - from Jeremy Lucas
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:35:31 -0500 From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front Camber Yes, but at what camber setting? Jeremy Lucas 95 M3 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reid Conti" <reid@conti.net> > 235 40 17 S03's. > I've easily gotten 20,000 miles out of them.
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Front Camber - from Reid Conti
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Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:11:52 -0800 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front Camber sorry, stock.. my bad. - reid On Wednesday, Jan 1, 2003, at 16:35 US/Pacific, Jeremy Lucas wrote: > Yes, but at what camber setting? > > Jeremy Lucas > 95 M3 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reid Conti" <reid@conti.net> > >> 235 40 17 S03's. >> I've easily gotten 20,000 miles out of them. >