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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Re: Throttle-Body Dividends? - from Jeremy Lucas
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 17:58:27 -0500 From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Re: Throttle-Body Dividends? Any idea how they are getting 230hp out of a 325? what mods? Just keeping it in mind future race car ideas..... Jeremy Lucas 95 M3 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> > 3.0L for some torque, put some cams in it and tune it for premuim". Presto, > 40-50hp. A chipped, 325i with cams will give most M3s a good run. I was > shocked when I drove one and have been equally impressed with the 230+hp > numbers that the front runners in ITS are getting out of their cars with > stock cams.
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#2. EWS problems with a Euro motor swap - from Juan Bruce
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Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:25:22 -0800 From: "Juan Bruce" <jbrucebmw@hotmail.com> Subject: EWS problems with a Euro motor swap I'm forwarding this for a friend who is not on the list. He just finished dropping a Euro 3.2 motor and 6 speed in his early '95 M3. Now he's having problems keeping it running which he thinks are due to the EWS. If anyone has any ideas let me or him know. Juan Bruce BMW CCA GGC ----------- Well, I am back up in Palo Alto, but the car is still in Irvine :(. Big EWS issues... I thought I'd ask you a question though, since I know you have an early production 95 M3... Do you have the pinout for the X20 connector (the big round connector for the engine harness that connects right next to the fuse box)? I am trying to find out the pinout since I believe the Euro connector actually has a different one (even more than just the addition of EWS). I am having to check the pinout pin by pin since even after hooking up EWS properly (i think) the engine will only run for 1/2 second or so before turning off. Anyways, if you have one or know where to find one (I have a printout of the 1994 E36 ETM but I can't find the X20 pinout anywhere... but that could just be my lack of skill in navigating the index) I'd really appreciate it if you could share that info with me. Happy New Year's and talk to you soon. Cheers, John Hovell [jhovell@yahoo.com] ps. If you know anyone else who might know that would be great too. I am *this close* to just giving up and trying to manually trace all the wires. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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#3. Re:Throttle-Body Dividends? - from HYPERM3@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:33:11 EST From: HYPERM3@aol.com Subject: Re:Throttle-Body Dividends? What about on a vehicle that is supercharged and does NOT have the traction control throttle body? Would that in turn, make for an improvement? Alex "HyperM3" Demsky 97 M3 S/C
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#4. obd-1 conversion? - from kitwetzler@mindspring.com
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:33:41 -0500 From: "kitwetzler@mindspring.com" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: obd-1 conversion? > As to ODBII cars, I think the ODBI conversion is a must before > any upgrades IMO. If you believe that... forward this email to Bill Gates, because he wants to test out his new email server and will give $100 to everyone that gets this email and forwards it to at least 10 people! ;) ok, in all seriousness, this is complete hooey. The big difference between OBD-1 and OBD-II is in the closed loop operation. When you are driving around town at light throttle, obd-II is very restrictive about how it wants to see things come in and out of the motor. But, at wide open throttle... open loop mode is virtually identical. You just need to be an intelligent tuner. No more getting away with the cars that barely idle, or stumble when you floor the gas, but that's ok, because we don't want that anyway. I'm making as much power or more than similarly modded 95s, even those with euro HFMs and 24lb/injectors. Sure beyond here it gets harder because it's more difficult to tune, but I'm working with almost 10% more engine! show me a 95 that makes 230 rwhp and 225 ft lbs of torque and I'll show you a car that has a lot more money into it than my car. :) (and that was before the obd-1 manifold!) -kit -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
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#5. Ellipsoid Bargains? - from twisty M3
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Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:45:01 -0800 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Ellipsoid Bargains? Any of our new list vendor(s) want to make me a smokin' deal on some ellipsoids before I order them elsewhere? ;) The group buy that someone posted about recently is closed, so the typical price I'm seeing is $398 for the pair of ZKWs. Anyone have a better connection than that? I'm hoping to find some with plug 'n play ability too, as I'm not too confident in my splicing abilities. Thanks, Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Re: Throttle-Body Dividends? - from NickG
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:09:57 -0500 From: "NickG" <nick@tech-nick.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Re: Throttle-Body Dividends? > As to ODBII cars, I think the ODBI conversion is a must before any upgrades <rant on> It's OBD people. Oh-Bee-Dee. It stands for On Board Diagnostics. I have no clue what ODB is for. </rant off> ahhh, that feels MUCH better :-) Nick
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Throttle-Body Dividends? - from NickG
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:12:46 -0500 From: "NickG" <nick@tech-nick.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Throttle-Body Dividends? > the use of the ASC TB. And all he could/would tell me is that it doesnt! > Is there some kind of physical property that allows a larger vessel to flow > better when a smaller vessel is placed in front of it? This I never hoid! > I just dont get it.. I know it's hard to believe, but it is possible. I've verified it on the flowbench once (back from my Mustang 5.0 days). The stock system on that car used a 60mm TB and a 55mm MAF. Increasing the TB to 65mm increased the overall flow through the system. I've never had the opportunity to test the E36 ASC and TB stuff though. Nick
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re:Throttle-Body Dividends? - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:47:18 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re:Throttle-Body Dividends? Dude, don't go down that road. Then you'll have to tune your computer again :) We all know that you were almost frustrated to the point of selling your car :) --- HYPERM3@aol.com wrote: > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:33:11 EST > From: HYPERM3@aol.com > Subject: Re:Throttle-Body Dividends? > > > What about on a vehicle that is supercharged and does NOT have the traction > control throttle body? Would that in turn, make for an improvement? > > Alex "HyperM3" Demsky > 97 M3 S/C > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list be visiting our sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > =====
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#9. Re: [E36M3] obd-1 conversion? - from Michael
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:29:38 -0500 From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] obd-1 conversion? Well I dont know how much you have in your car. But I only bought a chip and intake, plus Borla exhaust to make 234rwhp in my 95. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:39 PM Subject: [E36M3] obd-1 conversion? show me a 95 that makes 230 rwhp and 225 ft lbs of torque and I'll show you a car that has a lot more money into it than my car. :) (and that was before the obd-1 manifold!) -kit
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#10. Re: [E36M3] obd-1 conversion? - from Bruce
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:54:58 -0600 From: "Bruce" <gobuffs93@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] obd-1 conversion? And I am not that far off from a stock motor (223, 210) which nobody has given me a reason not to trust those numbers. If I get the money to stop going the way of the E30 M3, I might consider a chip and intake....but....it is just a daily driver so whats another 15 hp? Doesn't do much when you can only go 15 mpg. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] obd-1 conversion? > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:29:38 -0500 > From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] obd-1 conversion? > > Well I dont know how much you have in your car. But I only bought a chip > and intake, plus Borla exhaust to make 234rwhp in my 95. > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:39 PM > Subject: [E36M3] obd-1 conversion? > > show me a 95 that makes 230 rwhp and 225 ft lbs of torque and I'll show you > a > car that has a lot more money into it than my car. :) (and that was > before the obd-1 manifold!) > > -kit > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list be visiting our sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >