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#1. schroth harness group buy update - from DocWyte
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:11:00 -0800 (PST) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: schroth harness group buy update Thanks for all the interest guys! Once I get everyones address I'll send out quotes and when everyone pays the order will be made. Something I should've mentioned. If you live in Cali you're most likely going to have to pay sales tax on this transaction due to the fact my distributor is out there and the product is getting directly drop shipped from them to us. I'm not sure what cali sales tax is now, but that'll need to be added if you live in Cali. -josh ===== Josh Wyte Momentum Motorsports 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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#2. Fwd: Re: [E36M3] EWS problems with a Euro motor swap - from Juan Bruce
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Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:22:37 -0800 From: "Juan Bruce" <jbrucebmw@hotmail.com> Subject: Fwd: Re: [E36M3] EWS problems with a Euro motor swap Problem solved. Thanks to all those that responded. Juan >From: John Hovell <jhovell@yahoo.com> >To: mroblin@att.net >CC: jbrucebmw@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: FW: [E36M3] EWS problems with a Euro motor swap >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:08:33 -0800 (PST) >> > >I actually solved the problem today, after manually >tracing all the wires. > >What finally solved it was I towed the car to the >dealer to have EWS "realligned". > >Apparently, if the EWS unit sits disconnected for a >long period of time (more than a week or two), then >the volatile memory that stores the allignment data >gets erased, and the car won't start no matter what. > >Hopefully I'll be going down to LA to pick up the car >this weekend :). Thanks again... > >Cheers, >John > > > Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:25:22 -0800 > > > From: "Juan Bruce" <jbrucebmw@hotmail.com> > > > Subject: EWS problems with a Euro motor swap > > > > > > I'm forwarding this for a friend who is not on the > > list. He just > > > finished > > > dropping a Euro 3.2 motor and 6 speed in his early > > '95 M3. Now > > > he's having > > > problems keeping it running which he thinks are > > due to the EWS. > > > If anyone > > > has any ideas let me or him know. > > > > > > Juan Bruce > > > BMW CCA GGC > > > > > > > > > ----------- > > > Well, I am back up in Palo Alto, but the car is > > still > > > in Irvine :(. > > > > > > Big EWS issues... I thought I'd ask you a question > > > though, since I know you have an early production > > 95 > > > M3... > > > > > > Do you have the pinout for the X20 connector (the > > big > > > round connector for the engine harness that > > connects > > > right next to the fuse box)? > > > > > > I am trying to find out the pinout since I believe > > the > > > Euro connector actually has a different one (even > > more > > > than just the addition of EWS). > > > > > > I am having to check the pinout pin by pin since > > even > > > after hooking up EWS properly (i think) the engine > > > will only run for 1/2 second or so before turning > > off. > > > > > > Anyways, if you have one or know where to find one > > (I > > > have a printout of the 1994 E36 ETM but I can't > > find > > > the X20 pinout anywhere... but that could just be > > my > > > lack of skill in navigating the index) I'd really > > > appreciate it if you could share that info with > > me. > > > > > > Happy New Year's and talk to you soon. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > John Hovell [jhovell@yahoo.com] > > > > > > ps. If you know anyone else who might know that > > would > > > be great too. I am *this close* to just giving up > > and > > > trying to manually trace all the wires. > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 > > months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > > Please help support the E36M3 list be visiting our > > sponsors: > > > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > > > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Re: Re: Throttle-Body Dividends? - from Peter Guagenti
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Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:31:45 -0800 From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Re: Throttle-Body Dividends? on 1/8/03 4:09 PM, NickG at nick@tech-nick.net wrote: > I have no clue what ODB is for. ODB is an incarcerated member of Wu-Tang Clan. Also known as "Ol' Dirt Dog". Although, I had no idea he was working for Seimens now. ;-) -p
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#4. Re: [E36M3] obd-1 conversion? - Calling on the Carpet - - from Jon S.
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Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 23:51:13 -0600 From: "Jon S." <treehouse@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] obd-1 conversion? - Calling on the Carpet - Michael 95m3ltw@charter.net says: > As to OBDII cars, I think the OBDI conversion is a must before > any upgrades IMO. Kit kitwetzler@mindspring.com says: >ok, in all seriousness, this is complete hooey. I'm going to disagree here. It's not hooey at all. It's proven fact. I'm sure your car makes great power, but if it makes significantly more than a 3.0l OBDI in stock config, like you say below, it's purely luck of the draw. I think what Michael is saying is that to modify a OBDII 2.5 , 3.0, or a 3.2, the best place to start is to switch to OBDI. A 413 computer will respond to a chip (accept changes) far better than any of the Seimens OBDII computers. What I mean is you can sucessfully match a chip to your modifications with OBDI. Ever notice the available mods for the OBDII car are MUCH fewer without switching to OBDI? So back to the point in question; "OBDII cars should start mods with a OBDI conversion." See here's the thing, you say that you're making as much power as 3.0l OBDI cars with Chip, HFM, and 24LB injectors. And you also state that you have almost 10% more engine. Well.. here's the point: Change your 3.2l to OBDI, and put a CHIP, HFM, and 24lb injectors on there and you'll make 300HP at the engine. The only N/A way to get 300 from an OBDII 3.2l is to do cams. Well, put thoes same cams in the OBDI 3.2 and OBDI will win again. Kit says: >No more getting away with the cars that barely idle, or >stumble when you floor the gas, but that's ok, because we don't want that >anyway. I hope you're not referring to any M50/52 or S50/52. There are countless OBDI cars making 300+ HP at the wheels and have zero driveability / idling issues. If you know of M3's that "barely idle" then they must be near 400HP or something is not right. This is not normal. Jon ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi Treehouse Racing dot com (not a link- <grin>) ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 5:39 PM Subject: [E36M3] obd-1 conversion? Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:33:41 -0500 From: "kitwetzler@mindspring.com" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: obd-1 conversion? > As to ODBII cars, I think the ODBI conversion is a must before > any upgrades IMO. If you believe that... forward this email to Bill Gates, because he wants to test out his new email server and will give $100 to everyone that gets this email and forwards it to at least 10 people! ;) ok, in all seriousness, this is complete hooey. The big difference between OBD-1 and OBD-II is in the closed loop operation. When you are driving around town at light throttle, obd-II is very restrictive about how it wants to see things come in and out of the motor. But, at wide open throttle... open loop mode is virtually identical. You just need to be an intelligent tuner. No more getting away with the cars that barely idle, or stumble when you floor the gas, but that's ok, because we don't want that anyway. I'm making as much power or more than similarly modded 95s, even those with euro HFMs and 24lb/injectors. Sure beyond here it gets harder because it's more difficult to tune, but I'm working with almost 10% more engine! show me a 95 that makes 230 rwhp and 225 ft lbs of torque and I'll show you a car that has a lot more money into it than my car. :) (and that was before the obd-1 manifold!) -kit -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list be visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Ellipsoid Bargains? - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 06:35:23 -0800 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@cdsnet.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Ellipsoid Bargains? umnitza, on bimmerforums.com, is just about to start a new GB on ellipsoids, HIDs, DDEs, PnP conns, and Stonegard. There's an ongoing thread on the GB forum. He told me he'd be making a big announcement within the next couple of days. He has more than one thread, so check for the most current one (probably the least amount of posts). Jay At 05:56 PM 1/8/03 -0600, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:45:01 -0800 >From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> >Subject: Ellipsoid Bargains? > >Any of our new list vendor(s) want to make me a smokin' deal on some >ellipsoids before I order them elsewhere? ;) The group buy that someone >posted about recently is closed, so the typical price I'm seeing is $398 for >the pair of ZKWs. Anyone have a better connection than that? I'm hoping to >find some with plug 'n play ability too, as I'm not too confident in my >splicing abilities. > >Thanks, >Jonathan L. > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months >http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list be visiting our sponsors: >Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > >
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#6. obd-1 conversion? - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:30:38 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: obd-1 conversion? Bruce says > > And I am not that far off from a stock motor (223, 210) which nobody has > given me a reason not to trust those numbers. If I get the money to stop > going the way of the E30 M3, I might consider a chip and intake....but....it > is just a daily driver so whats another 15 hp? Doesn't do much when you can > only go 15 mpg. I just hate it when I can only go 15 mpg...sounds like what I get at the track :-) Later, Rich - dreaming of going to the track and getting 10 mpg but instead can only kid around with Bruce and his little typo.
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#7. Potheau Family Request - from Tom Byrum
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:13:40 -0500 From: Tom Byrum <mycroft@academus.net> Subject: Potheau Family Request This just in. Seems a wonderful request, and the foundation will be a wonderful thing once it finally gets off the ground. If you haven't heard of it, look into it. There was an article on it in a recent roundel I remember, but I can actually find no mention of it the CCA site (members area or not). Perhaps if anyone finds an online source they can post a link here. Tom Byrum "Wynne Smith <Wynne_Smith@bmwcca.org>" <Wynne_Smith@bmwcca.org> wrote: (01/09/2003 10:59) >Danielle Potheau, Michelle's daughter, called this morning to say >that the family will be scattering Michel's ashes at sea. There is no >memorial service planned. The family has asked that we tell anyone >wishing to do something in Michel's memory to please make a >contribution to the BMW CCA Foundation Driving School Program. Both >Margot, Michel's ex-wife, and Danielle indicated that the Club was >such an enormous part of Michel's life, they feel it most appropriate >that his memory live on through contributions to a program having a >primary goal of saving lives. > >More information about the BMW CCA Foundation is available by calling >the BMW CCA national office 864 250-0022. The Foundation's mailing >address is: > >BMW CCA Foundation >P.O. Box 3849 >Greenville, SC 29608-3849 > >Your kind thoughts and condolences have been much appreciated by the >Potheau family. > >Wynne Smith > > > > > > >Community email addresses: > Post message: BMWCCAtalk@onelist.com > Subscribe: BMWCCAtalk-subscribe@onelist.com > Unsubscribe: BMWCCAtalk-unsubscribe@onelist.com > List owner: BMWCCAtalk-owner@onelist.com > >Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/BMWCCAtalk > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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#8. CCA Foundation - from Tom Byrum
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:16:59 -0500 From: Tom Byrum <mycroft@academus.net> Subject: CCA Foundation Figures I'd find it just after hitting send...it was linked from the online membership application. http://www.bmwcca.org/aboutCCA/AmericanFoundation.shtml Thanks, Tom Byrum
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#9. RE: Manifold Flow - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:03:45 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Manifold Flow Chester wrote: "Not sure where you remember from the flow not being significantly different, but here's the link: < http://www.bmw-m.net/techdata/m50vsm52.htm > When Wayne installed his cam kit, we did the intake manifold first and he drove the car around. Impressions were just like what Kit noticed: a lost of oomph at 3000rpms but then it kicks in above that and feels much better. Where the OBDII manifolded engine feels like it's suffocating at the upper rev band, the OBDI manifolded 3.2L feels like it'll keep going. Throw in the cams and hang on! :) Thanks Chester! - As I would anticipate the larger ports don't work well down low, though they would 'come on' in the upper rpm range. As I recall the OBD-I manifold is not a simple replacement for the OBD-II. As I recall there is also some jerry-rigging of a sensor that has to be accomplished as well? And a loss of ASC+T? ....and is there any chance those cams laying around collecting dust... Thanks Kim Burgess
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#10. RE: Manifold Flow - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:20:39 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Manifold Flow Well, the Eurosport kit comes with a fancy machined aluminum adapter bracket. This requires you lengthen the cyclone hose (or whatever it's called) which is basically cutting it in half and adding a length of tubing and bending the coolant hoses to (I think) the throttle body. Kit claims that he retrofitted the new (well, really old..hahah) manifold with no adapter bracket because you're basically trying to accomodate all the vacuum lines...and you could "T" off of existing lines. Kit, got a write up? As I recall, Wayne's OBDII cam setup is sitting collecting dust and if you want, I can sell it to you :) Chester --- "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> wrote: > Thanks Chester! - As I would anticipate the larger ports don't work well down > low, though they would 'come on' in the upper rpm range. As I recall the > OBD-I manifold is not a simple replacement for the OBD-II. As I recall there > is also some jerry-rigging of a sensor that has to be accomplished as well? > And a loss of ASC+T? > ...and is there any chance those cams laying around collecting dust... =====