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#1. Please help me choose a daily driver - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:26:44 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Please help me choose a daily driver Jon says > <looking for car suggestions> Personally, I went through this same thought process. I even drove a new Toyota Tacoma 2wd for a couple of years before I sold it and have been doing used E30s since. I prefer a car as my primary driver (M3 is a 'second' car) and really like the '89 - '90 E30 325is. I do as much of the maintenance myself so this saves on the used car costs but it is within your budget parameters. > Between Mercedes, Audi and Lexus, does any single marquee have a > notable track record for interiors that survive the years? Audi. Regards, Rich 95 M3 90 325is 89 325is (sold this past year when I bought the other E30) PS - the guy I sold the '89 325is to (Alain) is basically doing the same thing and owns a '95 M3
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#2. Z8 driving experience - from russell
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:44:35 -0800 (PST) From: russell <driver8m3@yahoo.com> Subject: Z8 driving experience does that mean that you bought a Z8? russell measly m3 *************************************************************************** From: "Joseph L Bachman III" <josephbachman@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Z8 Driving Experience The Z8 school was all taught on Z8s.... It is free (with the purchase of a Z8!) ===== "the state is the great fiction by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else" --frederic bastiat __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Please help me choose a daily driver - from Jon Phillips
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:07:33 -0800 From: jon@maximumpc.com (Jon Phillips) Subject: RE: [E36M3] Please help me choose a daily driver Thanks, Doug... I will be staying away from any more E36s. Have you had a chance to read the E36 buyer's guide in the current issue of European Car? I'm not a big fan of that magazine (I find it boring; the writing is uninspired), but the buyer's guide was an exceptional piece. It identified almost every thing I love and hate in my M3, and made many points I was unaware of. Most specifically, it said that the E36 represents BMW's first foray into spec'ing cars via computer-assisted design, and that UNLIKE the E30, many decisions were made based on fault tolerances determined "acceptable" by the standards of a computer. In other words, with the E30 and earlier, BMW played it safe, and over-built its cars because the engineers erred on the side of caution. But, then, with the E36, the engineers knew exactly how much stress a part could take, and then spec'd the parts for just a nudge over acceptable fault tolerances. The upshot is that the E36 M3 sometimes suffers catastophic rear floor failures (a result of the extremely competent rear suspension putting undue stress on a system designed for less stress), and we have interior trim that's relatively shoddy (pillar trims, clutch pedal bushing, and so on). Anyhow, that's my paraphrasing of the article. I think it also said the E46 put build quality back on track. I'd actually consider an E30, but I don't want to buy a car that old. At 11:06 AM 1/24/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Nissan has been turning out some great cars lately ie. Altima. The other >choice may be to go with a 96 or so 328i, but then your back with rattles >and such. > >Doug Wirth > > >*********************************************************************** >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >are addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution >is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact >the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original >message. >*********************************************************************** ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Jon Phillips jphillips@maximumpc.com editor-in-chief 415-656-8778 Maximum PC magazine www.maximumpc.com Maximum PC/Future Network USA 150 North Hill Drive, Ste. 40 Brisbane, CA 94005 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: New AA Superchargers - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:08:00 -0500 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: New AA Superchargers While I don't pretend to be an expert in this at all, my logical reasoning for only wanting a positive displacement type supercharger (when I had my E36M3)over any type of centrifugal one is that every single manufacturer that makes a supercharged car (and that list is growing) uses a positive displacement blower. These companies spend millions (billions?) of dollars on development and there must be some good reason that they take that route and I don't believe it is the cheaper way to go. -Wayne -----Original Message----- From: ajoseph1981@earthlink.net [mailto:ajoseph1981@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:37 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: New AA Superchargers Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 05:34:54 -0600 From: <ajoseph1981@earthlink.net> Subject: [E36M3] Re: New AA Superchargers I thought that 'roots-type' fixed displacement superchargers were more prone.....
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Please help me choose a daily driver - from Rex Tener
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:11:42 -0800 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Please help me choose a daily driver At 01:27 PM 1/24/2003 -0600, Dorffer, Rich wrote: >Jon says > ><looking for car suggestions> > >Personally, I went through this same thought process. I even drove a new >Toyota Tacoma 2wd for a couple of years before I sold it and have been >doing used E30s since. I prefer a car as my primary driver (M3 is a >'second' car) and really like the '89 - '90 E30 325is. I do as much of >the maintenance myself so this saves on the used car costs but it is >within your budget parameters. My "rain car" is a '96 Toyota Tacoma and is an excellent Home Depot and tire store runner. My family had a '88 325is and the '89 - '90 325is cars are definitely a winner for those that do not need the utility of a truck. If you can put up with a lower powered e30, then a '91 318is is another choice. However, I think the low end torque of the 325is is well worth it in a daily driver. -- Rex Tener rex_tener@yahoo.com
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Please help me choose a daily driver - from Patrick Buthmann
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:20:04 -0500 From: "Patrick Buthmann" <patrick@teutonic.ca> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Please help me choose a daily driver Jon, First off, I'm a fan of your magazine...it's usually a pretty good read every month. Anyhow, now that pleasantries are aside, I'll give you my Minimum BS answer. Not to be brand dis-loyal or anything like that, but I'd be inclined to look at the previous generation Audi A4 as a daily driver. I'd go for the 2.8 V6 instead of the Turbo'd 4, mostly because of reliability issues and some warranty issues Audi has had with honoring warranties on chipped cars. Getting a 5-spd is a little more difficult in the 2.8 V6, but it's a better overall daily driver than the 1.8T. 96 and 97 should drop right into your price range, and add $2000 and the 98's drop into it as well. Another viable option is looking at an E34 525i / 535i as a cheap daily driver. Easy enough to find one with a 5-spd in it, and the benefit of a mid-sized sedan with 4 doors could be applicable. It also has the benefit of being serviced wherever you take your M3. While the E30 daily driver is an interesting idea, my thought is that unless you're willing to tinker with the car a whole bunch (like myself and many others here do), I'm not sure it falls into the reliable daily driver you're looking for. Any experience I've had with Audi's has been excellent, though they are too heavy to be a really suitable track car. Most E30 interiors I've seen lately are looking fairly haggard... Then again, you could always take your M3 to the next level, and end up driving a Ford F-250 4x4 into work everyday...nothing like tow vehicle / daily driver duties. Pat -----Original Message----- From: Jon Phillips [mailto:jon@maximumpc.com] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:17 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Please help me choose a daily driver Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:07:33 -0800 From: jon@maximumpc.com (Jon Phillips) Subject: RE: [E36M3] Please help me choose a daily driver Thanks, Doug... I will be staying away from any more E36s. Have you had a chance to read the E36 buyer's guide in the current issue of European Car? I'm not a big fan of that magazine (I find it boring; the writing is uninspired), but the buyer's guide was an exceptional piece. It identified almost every thing I love and hate in my M3, and made many points I was unaware of. Most specifically, it said that the E36 represents BMW's first foray into spec'ing cars via computer-assisted design, and that UNLIKE the E30, many decisions were made based on fault tolerances determined "acceptable" by the standards of a computer. In other words, with the E30 and earlier, BMW played it safe, and over-built its cars because the engineers erred on the side of caution. But, then, with the E36, the engineers knew exactly how much stress a part could take, and then spec'd the parts for just a nudge over acceptable fault tolerances. The upshot is that the E36 M3 sometimes suffers catastophic rear floor failures (a result of the extremely competent rear suspension putting undue stress on a system designed for less stress), and we have interior trim that's relatively shoddy (pillar trims, clutch pedal bushing, and so on). Anyhow, that's my paraphrasing of the article. I think it also said the E46 put build quality back on track. I'd actually consider an E30, but I don't want to buy a car that old. At 11:06 AM 1/24/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Nissan has been turning out some great cars lately ie. Altima. The >other choice may be to go with a 96 or so 328i, but then your back with >rattles and such. > >Doug Wirth > > >*********************************************************************** >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >are addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution >is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact >the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original >message. >*********************************************************************** ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Jon Phillips jphillips@maximumpc.com editor-in-chief 415-656-8778 Maximum PC magazine www.maximumpc.com Maximum PC/Future Network USA 150 North Hill Drive, Ste. 40 Brisbane, CA 94005 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Please help me choose a daily driver - from ajvdh1@attbi.com
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:49:24 +0000 From: ajvdh1@attbi.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Please help me choose a daily driver I've been real happy with my E30 3-series. No rattles or squeaks, but there is more wind noise than the E36 platform. How about an E28 5-series? At least they're fun to drive. You'll die of boredom in a Hyundai. -- "1 2 3 4!" - Johnny "Gabba gabba hey!" - Joey > I have about $10,000 to spend. I want a relatively soft ride (compared to > the M3), decent power, and above all else, a cabin free from all the > squeaks, rattles and groans suffered by my E36. Looking at both new and used. >
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#8. Glove box removal - help!! - from Scott M
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:16:06 -0800 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Glove box removal - help!! I'm trying to remove the glove box in my '98 M3 to replace the cabin microfilter. The Bentley says to remove the 6 screws and pull it out. Yeah right - those 6 screws are outta there and the sucker will not budge!! I want to make sure I'm not missing something before I break something trying to force it out.. Wouldn't be the first time a manual missed something important. Yes - the light is removed too. Thanks. Scott
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Glove box removal - help!! - from Reid Conti
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:33:21 -0800 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Glove box removal - help!! IIRC, there's a bolt up behind where the light is.. somewhere around there. Something not mentioned in the Bentley.. - reid On Friday, Jan 24, 2003, at 15:17 US/Pacific, Scott M wrote: > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:16:06 -0800 > From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> > Subject: Glove box removal - help!! > > I'm trying to remove the glove box in my '98 M3 to replace the > cabin microfilter. The Bentley says to remove the 6 screws and > pull it out. Yeah right - those 6 screws are outta there and > the sucker will not budge!! I want to make sure I'm not missing > something before I break something trying to force it out.. > Wouldn't be the first time a manual missed something important. > Yes - the light is removed too. > > Thanks. > > Scott > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Glove box removal - help!! - from Rex Tener
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:40:59 -0800 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Glove box removal - help!! At 05:17 PM 1/24/2003 -0600, Scott M wrote: >I'm trying to remove the glove box in my '98 M3 to replace the >cabin microfilter. The Bentley says to remove the 6 screws and >pull it out. Yeah right - those 6 screws are outta there and >the sucker will not budge!! I want to make sure I'm not missing >something before I break something trying to force it out.. >Wouldn't be the first time a manual missed something important. From a post I made to the original BMW digest: >Subject: <E36> <M3> Microfilter replacement and clutch pedal squeak >Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 13:40:18 -0700 (PDT) >[....] >After removing all the screws from the glovebox, it still wouldn't >come out of the dash. It was being held in by a sheet metal screw >with a 10mm hex head that is in the opening that is left when >you remove the glovebox overhead light. > >When I reinstalled the vents, I didn't attach them until after I >had the glovebox in. Then I discovered the glovebox wouldn't close >very well. It actually looks like the vents are installed correctly, >but they are not. And no matter how much I tried to attach them flushly, >I couldn't. The solution is to install the vents on the glovebox >before installing the glovebox in the dash. That did it. -- Rex Tener rex_tener@yahoo.com
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#11. Re: [E36M3] Glove box removal - help!! - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:44:21 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Glove box removal - help!! At 03:17 PM 1/24/03, Scott M wrote: >I'm trying to remove the glove box in my '98 M3 to replace the >cabin microfilter. The Bentley says to remove the 6 screws and >pull it out. Yeah right - those 6 screws are outta there and >the sucker will not budge!! I want to make sure I'm not missing >something before I break something trying to force it out.. >Wouldn't be the first time a manual missed something important. >Yes - the light is removed too. 1. There's a 10mm screw inside the light cavity that has to be removed. 2. You don't need to remove the glovebox to change the microfilter, see: http://www.koalamotorsport.com/tech/e36/e36.microfilter.htm Cheers, Jim Bassett