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#1. RE: [E36M3] BMW Coolant - Is this a Record? - from Jeremy Warfield
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:01:34 -0500 From: "Jeremy Warfield" <jww95@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] BMW Coolant - Is this a Record? Neil Maller writes: > Too bad you can't simply pour German beer into the radiator, it'd be cheaper > and you'd know what to do with the leftovers. ....and think about how tasty coolant leaks would be :-D Jeremy- '95
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#2. RE: [E36M3] BMW Coolant - Is this a Record? - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:05:59 -0500 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] BMW Coolant - Is this a Record? > ...and think about how tasty coolant leaks would be :-D Nah, think about how skunked it would be after all of those hot and cold cycles.... Unless you had an electric fan in there keeping it cool all the time!!! -Wayne
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#3. Replacing thermostat & housing - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:07:10 -0500 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Replacing thermostat & housing Gruppe, I suspect that my thermostat is not fully functioning as it's supposed to - unless I'm in stop and go rush hour traffic, the temp gauge in my car is reading on the cold side. Depending on the ambient temperature, this can be either just above the blue cold mark if it's really cold outside (20-25F or so), or just off center if it's in the high 30's or so. This sound like a thermostat that's stuck somewhat open to y'all? Sure seems like it to me. So, how much of a PITA is the thermostat and housing to replace? I know there's several vendors out there that have an aluminum thermostat housing, that seems like a no brainer choice. Can this be done without draining the radiator? Any writeups that describe how this is done? At 89k miles, I'll need to inspect the radiator to see how the bottom hose attachment point is looking. But unless it's obviously about to fail, I wasn't planning on replacing that. Any been there-done that stories? Thanks in advance, Andrej '97 M3
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#4. BMW Coolant - Is this a Record? - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:20:45 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: BMW Coolant - Is this a Record? > My local dealer, never the least expensive place for parts, charges > $21.60/gal for BMW Antifreeze. > > Is this a record? It may be, it is ~$13.50 list price. Talk about extortion. Although I bought some Honda coolant recently and it is about $13.50 a gallon (IIRC) and, hold on to your hats, it is premixed. So, to compare apples-to-apples, that would be the equivalent to $27 BMW coolant. Bavarian beer would be cheaper. Not sure what kind of foaming issues this may cause though and most Bavarians drink their beer luke warm right? ;-) My local dealer gives me at least 20% off list price, including coolant and oil. Later, Rich
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#5. Re:Z06 Comparison - from shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:22:50 -0500 From: shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com Subject: Re:Z06 Comparison >I worked at GM at the time of development of the C5, >and the word was that the C5 would make the C4 look >like a toy. It did. I've driven both C4 and C5 (Z06) on the track. The C4 was not even in the same league as the Z06. The Z06, despite the fact that I would never own one (gold chain factor excludes me from purchasing one), is a fabulous car for what it is. I have also instructed 4 students in them now and find them truly amazing. I had a D student at VIR full course hit 160 on the back straight without even trying hard. The car will do many things very well, but that makes what happens when you go off even more difficult to deal with (which this guy did, off backwards in the climbing esses - talk about pucker factor). There are always going to be the typical GM gremlins, but that is what warranty's are for. GM cars usually require some working out of bugs, then seem to be fairly solid after that. Shane This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.
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#6. Re: [E36M3] BMW Coolant - Is this a Record? - from David Bauer
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Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 15:31:56 -0600 From: David Bauer <dbauer@blkbox.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] BMW Coolant - Is this a Record? I was also surprised at the cost of the premixed Honda coolant! I was also surprised when I replaced my '95 plastic water pump the parts guy threw in a gallon of coolant for free. Dave 95 M3 Dorffer, Rich wrote: > > It may be, it is ~$13.50 list price. Talk about extortion. Although I bought some Honda coolant recently and it is about $13.50 a gallon (IIRC) and, hold on to your hats, it is premixed. So, to compare apples-to-apples, that would be the equivalent to $27 BMW coolant. > > Bavarian beer would be cheaper. Not sure what kind of foaming issues this may cause though and most Bavarians drink their beer luke warm right? ;-) > > My local dealer gives me at least 20% off list price, including coolant and oil. > > Later, > > Rich > >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Electric fans - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 16:33:16 -0500 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Electric fans On a related note... Last fall, I replaced the viscous clutch on my E34, and found the front of it (facing the radiator, and with the thermostatic sensor) coated with dirt and crud. Since the thermostatic strip can't get direct contact with the incoming air, it probably meant that the clutch wasn't functioning as well as it should. So, it may have operated as if the incoming air was cooler, so the clutch didn't engage as strongly as it should. I think it's probably a good idea to remove the fan clutch every now and then (once a year?) and make sure that it's clean. Mine had 156k miles on it, and was definitely shot. Ron Buchalski BMWCCA #76387 1995 E36 M3 1993 E34 525iT 1999 Mazda Miata _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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#8. Re: [E36M3] BMW Coolant - Is this a Record? - from cteague@cox.net
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:37:40 -0500 From: <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] BMW Coolant - Is this a Record? Here in So Calif., it is $16.50 after my 10% BMWCCA discount. This isn't the first time that I found out the local dealer charges more than list! No wonder it's easy to get a 10% discount. Chris 97 M3/4 > > > My local dealer, never the least expensive place for parts, charges > > $21.60/gal for BMW Antifreeze. > > > > Is this a record?
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#9. Adding Redline water wetter to the cooling system - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:42:20 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Adding Redline water wetter to the cooling system As far as I know, you can only add it through the overflow tank. There is no radiator cap per se. The coolant circulates through the overflow tank on both my M3 and my E30 325is. So, whether you were able to add it to just the radiator or just the overflow tank, it wouldn't matter, it circulates if the system is working properly. Regards, Rich
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#10. Re: Adding Redline water wetter to the cooling system - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 17:07:47 -0500 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Adding Redline water wetter to the cooling system Steve, Coolant circulates through the overflow tank, so the Water Wetter will get mixed in with the rest of the coolant. If you take a look at the information (and graph) for the product: http://www.redlineoil.com/redlineoil/wwti.htm You'll see that there's very little difference when using 50/50 ethylene glycol/water with Water Wetter. The main benefit comes when using Water Wetter with pure water. Ron Buchalski BMWCCA #76387 1995 E36 M3 1993 E34 525iT 1999 Mazda Miata >Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 12:25:48 -0800 >From: Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> >Subject: Adding Redline water wetter to the cooling system > > >This is going to sound like a rudimentary question. I plan on adding Water >Wetter to my car. Is adding the WW through the radiator cap the proper way >to do it? Or is the radiator cap only to the resevoir? Does this make >sense? I just want to make sure that if I'm adding the WW, it goes directly >to the cooling system and not to the resevoir where it will only be used if >the system sucks it in. > >The other question; if my radiator shows almost full what is the easiest >way to drain enough to get the WW in without overfilling? > >Thanks for the help. > >steve _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail