E36M3 #2921

Wednesday, February 05, 2003 17:56:45

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Another update on my M - from DocWyte
#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Garage - from Geof McLaughlin
#3. Re: [E36M3] AVSi vs AVS Es100 - from Chris Conner
#4. Re: [E36M3] Tires - from racebro@santacruzbicycles.com
#5. FW: Intro & question - from Dorffer, Rich
#6. tires - from Dorffer, Rich
#7. Re: [E36M3] Another update on my M - from Ahmad Lutfeali
#8. Re: Rotors - from James Clay
#9. 3.2L engine swap - from Juan Bruce
#10. Tires and Guibo replacement - from HYPERM3@aol.com

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Another update on my M - from DocWyte
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:47:46 -0800 (PST) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Another update on my M I have an aftermarket warranty that covered the coils, my deductible for that is $100. I don't have to pay anything for the DME... -josh --- NickG <nick@tech-nick.net> wrote: > > He says, no problem, I just have to pay the $100 > > deductible and not to worry. :-) > > $100 deductible? what $100 deductible? > > If that was due to your aftermarket extended > warranty, fine. But BMW > warranty doesn't have a deductible (except for CPO, > which is a $50 > deductible). > > Nick > > ===== Josh Wyte Momentum Motorsports 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Garage - from Geof McLaughlin
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 14:09:21 -0500 From: Geof McLaughlin <gfmiiilist@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Garage At 07:56 AM 2/4/2003 -0600, Colin_S_Whelan@rrfc.raytheon.com wrote: >Drains are against code here in MA, so I just sloped the >garage floor enough that water just runs out of the cracked garage door. FYI, drains into a dry well are not prohibited in Massachusetts for residential buildings. I confirmed this with the MA Department of Environment Protection (which governs discharge of water to the ground) as well as my local Board of Health (which enforces the DEP mandates) as well as the local building inspector. Geof with 24' wide channel drain running across garage and into a dry well (read: big hole with gravel)

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#3. Re: [E36M3] AVSi vs AVS Es100 - from Chris Conner
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:22:24 -0500 From: "Chris Conner" <chris@digital7.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] AVSi vs AVS Es100 >Hey Chris, how do the comfort and noise of the ES100 >compare to the other tires you listed? I'm trying to >decide between ES100's and Kumho MX's... > >thanks! > >scott I haven't experienced Kumho MX's in person yet. In the realm of low-profile performance tires with stiff sidewalls, the ES100s are pretty quiet. They are on par with the s03, and quieter than the AVSi and RE730. Then again, I am rolling on H&R Race/Bilstein Sports, so I haven't been too concerned with comfort/noise in a while. I think you'll be happy with the es100. Chris

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Tires - from racebro@santacruzbicycles.com
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:23:49 -0800 From: <racebro@santacruzbicycles.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Tires Rex said: "IMHO, The Bridgestone S02 Pole Position was the greatest street tire ever made. It had incredible grip in the dry or wet and had an extremely smooth break away curve. I have had four sets on our two M3's and averaged about 27K miles on each set. Incredible wear for a tire that is that soft." As the current owner of Rex's ex-95 M3, I have to chime in with equal impressions on the S02's. I had Pilot Sports on my previous M and they were noisier (I had prob's with the edges cupping) but with good grip. I think the S02's have more grip in the dry, and move more water-- translating to better grip in the wet too. I have driven a friend's M3 with S03's fairly extensively on trips and will vouch for the fact that they do tramline more than my S02's do. I'm with Rex-- hopefully I can find another set in about 5k miles-- I don't know if i'm ready to take the plunge to S03's. The '95 M is already bordering on twitchy on the freeway... Jason Lombard '95 M3 w/ SO2's @ approx. 19k mi. on 'em. (expect to see 25k or so)

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#5. FW: Intro & question - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:29:05 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: FW: Intro & question KC says > > I just got a '97 Arctissilber Crew Cab from an owner in Florida. Huh... what on earth is a crew cab M3?!? (no response needed, I figured it out looking at the pictures, I have just never heard a sedan referred to as a crew cab...I thought that was reserved for trucks). Nice looking car though (my favorite color choice) and welcome to the group. > Now on to the question part: Between 65-70 mph I get a little > "roughness" from the car. It almost feels like a driveline vibration, > but I'm fairly certain it's not, as it doesn't rear its head until that > speed. It's most pronounced in 5th gear, but is also present in 4th > (haven't tried 3rd yet!). I would suspect the tires/balancing as well as a worn out flex disk. I would get the tires rebalanced or road force balanced (see old threads on Hunter tire equipment). Seems premature to be a bad center bearing. > KC Boyce > '97 M3 Crew Cab We need to work on that sig...how about M3/4? :-)

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#6. tires - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:30:39 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: tires Russell said > > one thing that i think is important, even with your opinion of tires, is > wear. i've had tires last 8k miles, while other brands last 3-4 times > longer, with similar driving style. that can turn into significant cost > differences...so it's possible that a more expensive tire is the better > value. ....and, just the same, a $800 set may only last 1/3 as long as a $500 set of tires making the $800 set of tires five times more expensive... Good point though and I feel it is one often overlooked. This factor played a significant role into what snow tires I have on my 325is. Patrick said > > Why is it that no one seems to buy Michelin Pilot Sports? They were the OE > tire and still come standard on many high performance vehicles. I think > that aside from some noise, they are great. Aren't they about the same > price as SO3's? SO3s tend to be less than the Pilot Sports, sometimes significantly depending on the size. Most people like the Michelin Pilot Sports for the most part, aside from price. > Also, wouldn't it make more sense to just replace the two > tires that wear out first (rear?) and the other two later? What mileage > life have people been getting out of the Pilots? I still have the originals > on with 32,000 miles on the car. (Have gone thru mucho sets of track tires, > however.) This isn't all together true. It is a really bad idea to have a particularly worn set of rears with greater tread in the front. At the same time, you don't want nearly worn out fronts with new rears. It is best to have a fairly balanced set of tires IMO. Jon says > > I now have the SO3s -- > don't like'em as much as the SO2s. They appear to be lasting longer, but I > find them to be no more grippy than the SO2s, and because of their wide > grooves, they follow road grooves a bit too much for my liking; the car > gets a bit wandery. I don't think the wandering has anything to do with the width of the grooves on the S03. I think your alignment might and the tires might (grip and tread pattern) but not the width of the tread groove on the tire. > Replacing: As long as you stick with the exact same brand/type of tire, > it's OK to replace the rear axle, and not all four tires. See my comments above. It is alright to replace two of the tires as long as the tread depth on all four tires isn't too great a disparity. This can make for a very unbalanced/unsafe car, particularly in the rain. Regards, Rich 95 M3 90 325is

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Another update on my M - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 20:14:10 +0000 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Another update on my M Josh, So sorry to hear about your car. You should be the last person to have any problems with your car since you helped us all with the harnesses. Tell you a little secret. Next time take the car over to BMW Herb Chambers on ComAve (Boston). The guy you want to deal with there is Ali (service advisor) and make sure Steve Carroll works on your car. Steve is a GREAT guy. He has an Avus blue 95 with mods. He has helped me out a lot when I used to live in Boston. He understands our car well, besides you will get EXCELLENT service. His email address is stevenrcsl@aol.com Hope this helps. Ahmad 98 M3/2 Boston Green in Atlanta _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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#8. Re:  Rotors - from James Clay
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:04:57 -0500 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: Re: Rotors I haven't played with them. I have found that cooling the brakes usually isn't a problem and they actually work better hot with our pads. The key is using a brake fluid that can take the temps and bleeding the fluid in the calipers out frequently. James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com Engineered BMW Performance 540.639.9648 During high speed and/or endurance events where braking temps can reach 1000+ Deg. have you ever experimented with any of the newer wave, laminated, and/or highly finned rotors? Some of the literature that I've read "proclaims" these new rotors to have a 2-3 fold reduction in rotor temps, as well as reduced mass. All desirable traits, but I wonder how well their claims hold-up in real world applications.

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#9. 3.2L engine swap - from Juan Bruce
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:03:52 -0800 From: "Juan Bruce" <jbrucebmw@hotmail.com> Subject: 3.2L engine swap Hi guys, I've run across a good deal on a 3.2 motor from a low mileage '99 M Coupe. I was thinking about swapping this into my early '95 M3 (pre EWS). I assume I can just keep my OBD I intake manifold, computer etc. and all I would need is a custom chip. Is there more to this swap? Does someone sell a kit? Juan Bruce BMW CCA GGC '85 M635CSi '95 M3 _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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#10. Tires and Guibo replacement - from HYPERM3@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 18:52:19 EST From: HYPERM3@aol.com Subject: Tires and Guibo replacement Tires: To all those thinking of getting the Pilots...DON'T. Seriously, they suck dry or wet. They squeal like crazy and don't have high limits at all (even on the street). If you heard or read good things about them, consider the source. Was it someone who used them on the same car, or a magazine that got advertising $$$? No, I don't consider the street a race course.....all the time...but I do drive my car hard on off ramps, on ramps, and back roads and I prefer to know I have tires that can back me up. In terms of the YOK ES-110, they are a very loud tire. I think they handle well but are horrible in a straight line accelerating in the wet. They will spin easily. No, they aren't bad tires for the money, but they are worth the money you pay. I would gladly fork over another $100 to know that ill be able to stop that much shorter or evade a swerving car that much quicker with better tires. Someone mentioned the Falken Azenis. They from what I hear on the auto-x side of things are the s%%t! My buddy had the Kumho Ecsta on his car for a bit before he sold them and they made a big difference. I know the MX are really on the up and up. But back to the Azenis, I seriously would try them myself. They seem to be the Yok A032-R of the new generation. Fantastic street/race tires. Guibo: I just replaced mine the other night. Not as easy as I expected. If you don't have access to a lift then just forget doing this right now. Jack stands absolutely do not apply. That said, once your car is in the air, make sure its not hot. You will burn yourself on many things underneath there. First thing to do is undo the bottom 3 bolts on the guibo. Lower the car just a bit and have someone underneath while you roll the car bkwd or fwd until the other 3 bolts are now on the bottom. Undo the last 3 and then unbolt the 4 exhaust bolts in the rear. Now make sure you have a tranny lift. Unbolt the 4 tranny mount bolts and with the lift under it, slowly lower it. The driveshaft will pull down with it and you will be able to jiggle it back and forth to get it off the tranny. Now take off the Guibo and examine it. When putting the guibo back on, make sure you align the arrows on the sides with the flanges on the driveshaft and the tranny. Now do everything in reverse and you should be OK. Any questions on this contact me personally. Alex "HyperM3" Demsky 97 S/C M3 Ban Low Performance Drivers, Not High Performance Cars.

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