E36M3 #2931

Wednesday, February 12, 2003 07:37:35

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. e46 trunk spoiler on an e36 - from Mo Karamat
#2. Re: [E36M3] e46 trunk spoiler on an e36 - from DocWyte
#3. Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools - from m3ltw@msn.com
#4. Re: [E36M3] non BMWs at CCA driver schools - from DocWyte
#5. Re: CCA or Private driver's school - from Ron Buchalski
#6. Schroth harness install in a Sedan. - from Mo Karamat
#7. Front strut bar - from Mo Karamat
#8. RE: [E36M3] Re: CCA or Private driver's school - from Andrew-Taylor Autosport
#9. FS: Wheels/Schroth Harnesses - from Tobin Finley
#10. Re: [E36M3] e46 trunk spoiler on an e36 - from ChuckBrazeau@aol.com

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#1. e46 trunk spoiler on an e36 - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:13:09 -0500 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: e46 trunk spoiler on an e36 Dear All, Has anyone seen the e46m3 trunk spoiler on an e36 sedan? Does this spoiler create any kind of down force on an e36? I am thinking about putting one on... Thoughts? Thanks Mo

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#2. Re: [E36M3] e46 trunk spoiler on an e36 - from DocWyte
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:06:33 -0800 (PST) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] e46 trunk spoiler on an e36 Yes, I've seen it. It fits well. Functional? Well, looks more like trunk jewelry to me. If you want functional I'd go with the ltw wing... -josh --- Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:13:09 -0500 > From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> > Subject: e46 trunk spoiler on an e36 > > Dear All, > > Has anyone seen the e46m3 trunk spoiler on an e36 > sedan? Does this spoiler > create any kind of down force on an e36? I am > thinking about putting one > on... > > Thoughts? > > Thanks > Mo > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ===== Josh Wyte Momentum Motorsports 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com

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#3. Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools - from m3ltw@msn.com
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:08:34 -0500 From: m3ltw@msn.com Subject: Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools > Wrom: ZUIVOTQNQE > > Skip wrote: > > >Most BMW club schools don't require that you drive a BMW, you > >can drive most anything except a convertible (I don't recommend > >taking a SUV or a minivan though). NASA (many events on west coast) allows convertibles, if you really want to risk your head. And I have driven my X5 at a few CCA drivers schools (and put some M3s to shame). > A BMW is not required for Golden Gate chapter driving schools. BUT on the registration form, > they state that PRIORITY will be given to BMWs. I wanted to sign up for a school but am put off by > this statement. I worry that I will sign up early only to be wait-listed and possibly allowed (or > not allowed) in only at the last minute because I don't bring a BMW. It is very hard for me to see > how I can guarantee getting into drivers school without a BMW even if I sign up early. Well, I've instructed at many GGC events, but never did the registration...but I can say that something like 20-30% of the cars (varies by run group) are non-BMWs, so it would seem that many do get through the "priority". The clause that GGC uses is common among many chapters. The reason is to try to keep it for those who really appreciate BMWs. Having been a board member in Chicago, I personally know that many people join CCA only to have access to the great drivers schools. As such, the line about giving priority was inserted. HOWEVER, I don't think anyone actually gives priority, but they are just reserving the right to, if it ever became an issue. > Does anyone have any experience with the GGC and non-BMWs at driving schools? Bring 'em and have a blast. Just remember to bring extra brake pads. This especially applies for rental cars (but usually, you can get them cheaply at an auto-supply store after the first day). Dan Snyder

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#4. Re: [E36M3] non BMWs at CCA driver schools - from DocWyte
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:09:19 -0800 (PST) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] non BMWs at CCA driver schools The Boston chapter does a lottery. So it doesn't matter how early you sign up, as long as you sign up before the deadline. You could be the very first entry they receive and still not make it into the school. As a BMW club, they do have the right to give first crack to BMW members, however, I wouldn't let that stop you from trying to get into the event... -josh --- John Pease <john_pease123@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:26:47 -0800 (PST) > From: John Pease <john_pease123@yahoo.com> > Subject: non BMWs at CCA driver schools > > Skip wrote: > > >Most BMW club schools don't require that you drive > a BMW, you > >can drive most anything except a convertible (I > don't recommend > >taking a SUV or a minivan though). > > A BMW is not required for Golden Gate chapter > driving schools. BUT on the registration form, > they state that PRIORITY will be given to BMWs. I > wanted to sign up for a school but am put off by > this statement. I worry that I will sign up early > only to be wait-listed and possibly allowed (or > not allowed) in only at the last minute because I > don't bring a BMW. It is very hard for me to see > how I can guarantee getting into drivers school > without a BMW even if I sign up early. > > Does anyone have any experience with the GGC and > non-BMWs at driving schools? > > Thank you > John Pease > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > ===== Josh Wyte Momentum Motorsports 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com

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#5. Re: CCA or Private driver's school - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 23:27:00 -0500 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: CCA or Private driver's school Jeff, I recommend that you attend a BMWCCA school, with your car. They don't make you drive it hard, it's completely up to you. Besides, gaining experience with the feel of your car at higher limits will make you a better driver on the public roads. Another choice of schools on the West Coast are run by Driving Concepts. If you want to learn some good skills (trail braking, threshold braking, heel-toe downshifting, the ideal line, oversteer/understeer) in someone else's car, and are willing to pay some money, I highly recommend going to Las Vegas and attending the Derek Daly 2-Day Performance GT school. http://www.derekdaly.com/driverprograms.htm You'll be driving a Z3 with a suspension that's been tweaked by Steve Dinan. ABS has been disabled, so you'll learn threshold braking. The first day is spent on exercises to teach the skills that I mentioned above, and the second day is spent driving on the road course track at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. My class was held on the 1.8 mile Outside Race Course. It was a blast, and you'll get plenty of time on the track, and good instruction. Ron Buchalski BMWCCA #76387 1995 E36 M3 1993 E34 525iT 1999 Mazda Miata >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:32:39 EST >From: RacerxJLing@aol.com >Subject: CCA or Private driver's school > >Hello > >I want to "get my feet wet" w/ a driving school...I am a virgin to the >track. > However, don't want to use my car. Am I restricted to the private >driver's >schools that supply a car for you ($$$)?? I have a 95 M3 w/ 135xxx miles on >the motor (running well). Don't really want to "risk" blowing the motor >since $$ is tight. > >Please advise of my options/which schools are the best. I am in So. >California (Orange, CA) > >Thanks > >Jeff _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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#6. Schroth harness install in a Sedan. - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 00:04:58 -0500 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: Schroth harness install in a Sedan. Dear All, Hello.. First I would like to thank Josh again for setting up this group buy on the harnesses. (thanks Josh!) second, I installed them this evening in my car, the install was very simple, but I do have a few comments for those folks who have not done it yet.. 1. Only the passenger side needs to have the rear tail strap installed. It seemed like this had to be installed in the inboard seat anchor. I just bent the tail strap a little so it would follow the curve of the stock seatbelt.. Simple enough. 2. The front seats is where the challenge came in.. The ONLY way I could access the Torx screw on the side of the seat (where the stock seat belt connects to the side of the seat) was to unbolt and lay back the seat. If someone knows how to access these bolts without removing the seat, please share. After speaking with Wayne, it seems that the Coup, and the Sedan have different anchor points for the front seatbelts. 3. I did not have to trim the plastic cover on the sides of the seats for the tail strap to fit next to the stock belt. It's a bit snug, but seems ok.. Should this be a loose fit? 4. The driver's side was a pain because the stock belt end is slightly curved at the ends, and the Schroth strap has a small raised area around the eyelet. I had a hell of a time getting the two lined up with the hole to get the screw through.. At one point I was thinking about grinding off the raised area on the harness strap.. the problem is that there are 2 bolt heads right behind the stock anchor point, and when you insert the Schroth eyelet next to it, it doesn't allow the holes to line up very easily.. I do want to say that it can be done.. (just a pain) Have fun! Mo 98 M3/4 (With Harness belts now!) 91 325IX 83 323i (Euro)

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#7. Front strut bar - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 00:06:17 -0500 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: Front strut bar Dear All, I know that this has been discussed before, but I would like everyone's opinion on a good front strut bar.. I have a 98, so I need a bar that works on a car with ASC. Thanks Mo

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Re: CCA or Private driver's school - from Andrew-Taylor Autosport
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 03:37:22 -0500 From: "Andrew-Taylor Autosport" <astaylor@taylorautosport.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: CCA or Private driver's school > I recommend that you attend a BMWCCA school, with your car. They > don't make > you drive it hard, it's completely up to you. Besides, gaining > experience > with the feel of your car at higher limits will make you a better > driver on > the public roads. Autocross it first. Five or six events. That makes you a better driver on public roads. When you go to the track, forget everything you taught yourself at the autocross course. *Except* the car control. Principle: autoX gives you a chance to deal with some extreme vehicle dynamic situations at lower speeds which are easier to control. And if you don't stay in control you don't hit anything. Invaluable experience. Learn to heel and toe on the road. Andrew

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#9. FS:  Wheels/Schroth Harnesses - from Tobin Finley
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 07:24:08 -0500 From: Tobin Finley <tfinley@fdt.net> Subject: FS: Wheels/Schroth Harnesses For sale: - set of four 10-spoke (1995) wheels 7 1/2-J-17 with Kumho Ecsta V700 235/40/17 tires. Used during two driving schools. Lots of tread left. $800 - set of two Schroth 4-point harnesses, red. Rallye-4 ASM (not clip-in) $160

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#10. Re: [E36M3] e46 trunk spoiler on an e36 - from ChuckBrazeau@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:34:15 EST From: ChuckBrazeau@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] e46 trunk spoiler on an e36 Mo, The E46M3 lip spoiler would be a little short on the sedan. It is about 10mm short of the trunk width on my coupe, so it would be even shorter on a sedan. <A HREF="http://www.brazeauracing.com/photos/e46m3lip.jpg">http://www.brazeauracing.com/photos/e46m3lip.jpg</A> The general practice for sedans is to use the lip spoiler from the E39M5. Same style, only longer and fits the E36 sedan perfectly (it hangs over a coupe's trunk by about 6mm on each side). Hope this helps. Chuck Brazeau '95 BMW M3 - Violet on Black SCCA Solo2 - B Stock #95 <A HREF="http://www.brazeauracing.com/">http://www.brazeauracing.com/</A> In a message dated 2/11/03 6:22:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, karamatm@optonline.net writes: > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:13:09 -0500 > From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> > Subject: e46 trunk spoiler on an e36 > > Dear All, > > Has anyone seen the e46m3 trunk spoiler on an e36 sedan? Does this > spoiler > create any kind of down force on an e36? I am thinking about putting one > on... > > Thoughts? > > Thanks > Mo

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