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#1. Re: [E36M3] #2933 My Car is Talking to me - from perryinricva@attbi.com
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:43:25 +0000 From: perryinricva@attbi.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] #2933 My Car is Talking to me The OBDII code readers and software packages both name specific O2 sensors that are faulty. > -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:40:40 -0600 > From: Grant.Fairweather@abbott.com > Subject: Re: My Car is Talking To Me > > > >One other option. If you have an AutoZone close to you, > >they will read the code for >FREE and give you the results. > > >This is true, and I'd recommend that you call your local > > AZ first to see what model of code reader they're using. > >I didn't, and found out that my particular local dealer > >was still using an older model which would not connect > >to my OBD-II port. I inquired about the use of a newer > >reader, but the AZ mgr wasn't too keen on spending the > >$$ on a new one, when the older model worked for "most" > >cars. > > >I just did this for a check engine light on my '97 540/6. > >As suspected, the test showed I had one oxygen sensor > >on bank one going out. They reset the light and it > >hasn't come back on. When I get a minute, I'm replacing > >all four of my o2 sensors, since I'm almost at 100K anyway. > > Did the code indicate a specific O2 sensor, or did it more > generally indicate that one of the sensors was foul? I > recently had my convertor replaced under warranty, due to a > loose heat shield...yes, a loose shield and voila, a new cat. > With the new cat, I think a new O2 sensor or 2 would have > been installed, assuming that there's one or more pre/post cat. > > Grant > Chicago > 98 M3/4...powered by Dinan > > > > >
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#2. Re: Window Rattle - from Steve Klein
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:49:51 -0600 From: Steve Klein <klein@robinsonad.com> Subject: Re: Window Rattle Can aging body gaskets around the door and window be responsible for this? I've got the exact same symptoms (lower the window just a squinch and it stops) and I've also got a tiny leak when I wash the car just above where the mirror is on the driver side. I've attributed this to the fact that not having a garage for the past year combined with seven years of service has taken its toll on the pliability of the rubber gaskets. Any thoughts? Cheers, Steve
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#3. Touch Up Paint - from Steve Klein
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:51:15 -0600 From: Steve Klein <klein@robinsonad.com> Subject: Touch Up Paint Can anyone point me to a source for some touch up paint (11/95 Cosmos)? Is this a dealer item? TIA, Steve
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#4. RE: Service II and steering questions - from Wesley A. Nicolas
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:56:15 -0800 (PST) From: "Wesley A. Nicolas" <wes@nicolas.org> Subject: RE: Service II and steering questions I just fixed this problem on my 11/94 production M3....the upper bearing was shot. I also recently replaced my motor mounts and I believe my now previous mechanic pulled the subframe down and damaged the u-joint (at bottom of steering column) which pushed the steering column out about 1/4" too much increasing the play. Lets hope you just need to replace the upper bearing which is relatively cheap at about $10 plus labor. Good luck, Wes '95 M3 >I've noticed that I can move my steering column up & >down just a bit when I hold the steering wheel, it seems >that the bolts that hold the steering column (under the >dash) may be a bit loose. How difficult is it to get to >these and has anybody had anything like this >happen to their E36?.
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#5. Re: E46 M3 brake swap? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:06:20 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: E46 M3 brake swap? on 2/13/03 10:59 AM, "Juan Bruce" <jbrucebmw@hotmail.com> wrote: > I have to rebuild one of my front calipers. In order to minimize downtime I > have been keeping my eye out for another set of calipers so I can just swap > them. Then today I came across a set or E46 calipers brackets and rotors > for $350. Does anyone know if its possible to retrofit these to an E36? Juan, The rebuilding part - replacing the seals and dust boots - takes hardly any time compared with the remove/replace/bleed phase. Unless you're sending them out for painting you should just go ahead and do it. Neil 96 M3
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:54:06 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools At 05:49 PM 2/12/03, m3ltw@msn.com talked about: >And yet people were there in non-BMWs? No, not at those schools that filled up with BMW-drivers. There actually was a case where a couple of "students" were turned away - they had signed up with BMWs but showed up in other marques and were given refunds and sent home. A friend of mine got into that school because of the space that opened up (he came out to the track just in case there were any "no-shows"). Jim Bassett
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Re: My Car is Talking To Me - from Dames, Mark
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:28:09 -0800 From: "Dames, Mark" <Mark.Dames@PDO.Co.Santa-Clara.CA.US> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: My Car is Talking To Me So I'm curious as to exactly what type of creature OBDII is? Is this a computer system that is unique to BMW's or is it a universal system amoung all auto-makers? Do the codes apply to more than one model, more than one make of car or does each have its own codes. Was this system legislated into existence and made madatory for all vehicles or is it a discretionary thing. How does it differ from OBDI ? mark. -----Original Message----- From: Grant.Fairweather@abbott.com [mailto:Grant.Fairweather@abbott.com] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:49 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: My Car is Talking To Me Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:40:40 -0600 From: Grant.Fairweather@abbott.com Subject: Re: My Car is Talking To Me >One other option. If you have an AutoZone close to you, >they will read the code for >FREE and give you the results. >This is true, and I'd recommend that you call your local > AZ first to see what model of code reader they're using. >I didn't, and found out that my particular local dealer >was still using an older model which would not connect >to my OBD-II port. I inquired about the use of a newer >reader, but the AZ mgr wasn't too keen on spending the >$$ on a new one, when the older model worked for "most" >cars. >I just did this for a check engine light on my '97 540/6. >As suspected, the test showed I had one oxygen sensor >on bank one going out. They reset the light and it >hasn't come back on. When I get a minute, I'm replacing >all four of my o2 sensors, since I'm almost at 100K anyway. Did the code indicate a specific O2 sensor, or did it more generally indicate that one of the sensors was foul? I recently had my convertor replaced under warranty, due to a loose heat shield...yes, a loose shield and voila, a new cat. With the new cat, I think a new O2 sensor or 2 would have been installed, assuming that there's one or more pre/post cat. Grant Chicago 98 M3/4...powered by Dinan ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools - from Carey Probst
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:30:31 -0500 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools Based on that, sure am glad that Genesee Valley basis its early acceptance on BMW CCA/Chapter membership, not the car being driven. Seems unfair to take the money and then reject them when they show up. Is it stated clearly on the registration form that they have to DRIVE a BMW, not just own one? Lots of BMW CCA/GVC members drive non-BMWs at our schools. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters JC CAIed and Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jimbassett@attbi.com] >And yet people were there in non-BMWs? No, not at those schools that filled up with BMW-drivers. There actually was a case where a couple of "students" were turned away - they had signed up with BMWs but showed up in other marques and were given refunds and sent home. A friend of mine got into that school because of the space that opened up (he came out to the track just in case there were any "no-shows"). Jim Bassett
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:40:48 -0600 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> wrote: > > At 05:49 PM 2/12/03, m3ltw@msn.com talked about: > >And yet people were there in non-BMWs? > > No, not at those schools that filled up with BMW-drivers. > > There actually was a case where a couple of "students" were turned > away - they had signed up with BMWs but showed up in other marques > and were given refunds and sent home. A friend of mine got into that > school because of the space that opened up (he came out to the track > just in case there were any "no-shows"). This is getting weird. At first I though someone was confusing BMW Club membership with BMW car ownership. There is an IRS requirement to keep non-Club members' revenue below 15% for all non-profits. Apparently not. GGC seams to discriminate against non-BMW vehicles. There is no known to me good reason to require owning and driving a bimmer to improve one's driving skills. Personally, I find it a little snobbish. I would probably choose not to patronize such an organization and sign up for a DE with another club. IMHO, alex f
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools - from m3ltw@msn.com
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:50:09 -0500 From: m3ltw@msn.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools Alex F responded to Jim B: > > There actually was a case where a couple of "students" were turned > > away - they had signed up with BMWs but showed up in other marques > > and were given refunds and sent home. > > This is getting weird. > At first I though someone was confusing BMW Club membership with BMW car > ownership. Windy City (Chicago) requires CCA membership, and builds it into the fee for non-members (they become a member). In addition, if there are too many applications, first priority is given to current members (not cars) and then non/new members. There is no lottery, it is based on application date (postal mark). > Apparently not. GGC seams to discriminate against non-BMW vehicles. > There is no known to me good reason to require owning and driving a bimmer > to improve one's driving skills. > Personally, I find it a little snobbish. So do I. And I like the mix of cars...many of the nicest guys I met at Road America drove Corvettes or Mustangs! And, the biggest thrill was always from beating a 911 Turbo with my slow 325is! It's too bad there isn't any corner in the Bay area like the Kink! Dan Snyder
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#11. Re: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:00:11 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools alex.fadeev@verizon.com at alex.fadeev@verizon.com wrote: > There is no known to me good reason to require owning and driving a bimmer > to improve one's driving skills. > Personally, I find it a little snobbish. I would probably choose not to > patronize such an organization and sign up for a DE with another club. Please do. That will make it easier for those of us with BMW's to get into the schools. - Mark -- mark@pdc-racing.net
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#12. RE: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools - from Dames, Mark
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:03:28 -0800 From: "Dames, Mark" <Mark.Dames@PDO.Co.Santa-Clara.CA.US> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools The Teutonic hegemony policy instituted by the Golden Gate chapter is one that I challenged with the board some years ago. But schools were fat with applicants back then and exclusivity became the rule as a way to cater to BMW drivers. It's a situation that's probably unique to the demographics of Silicon Valley and the fact that GGC has 4000 members. And yes the application says very clearly, BMW's FIRST, and you can apply with another car but will be at the end of the line for spots/waiting list. Before the internet boom they'd take any car at a school as long as you were a member. There were Ferrari's, Vipers, Porsches, Camaro's, etc. I thought it was alot more interesting. -----Original Message----- From: Carey Probst [mailto:hcprobst@alum.mit.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:39 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:30:31 -0500 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools Based on that, sure am glad that Genesee Valley basis its early acceptance on BMW CCA/Chapter membership, not the car being driven. Seems unfair to take the money and then reject them when they show up. Is it stated clearly on the registration form that they have to DRIVE a BMW, not just own one? Lots of BMW CCA/GVC members drive non-BMWs at our schools. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters JC CAIed and Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jimbassett@attbi.com] >And yet people were there in non-BMWs? No, not at those schools that filled up with BMW-drivers. There actually was a case where a couple of "students" were turned away - they had signed up with BMWs but showed up in other marques and were given refunds and sent home. A friend of mine got into that school because of the space that opened up (he came out to the track just in case there were any "no-shows"). Jim Bassett ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#13. Re: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools - from Rex Tener
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:02:45 -0800 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: non BMWs at CCA driver schools At 12:49 PM 2/13/2003 -0600, alex.fadeev@verizon.com wrote: >Apparently not. GGC seams to discriminate against non-BMW vehicles. >There is no known to me good reason to require owning and driving a bimmer >to improve one's driving skills. >Personally, I find it a little snobbish. I would probably choose not to >patronize such an organization and sign up for a DE with another club. I am not involved in GGC other than being a member and occasional autocross participant. My guess is, in the completely car crazy San Francisco Bay Area, marque clubs have to limit participation to their marque if they don't want to be over run by non-marques at their event. In the SF Bay Area autox world, the SCCA requires membership, and still is averaging over 300 drivers an event since the beginning of the year. They used to allow membership purchase at the event, but after dozens, if not hundreds of bad checks written for membership, they had to discontinue it. One insight .... -- Rex Tener rex_tener@yahoo.com 1996 BMW M3, SCCA SFR Solo II Street-Mod #173
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#14. Re: My Car is Talking To Me - from Gcfuller@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:06:19 -0500 From: Gcfuller@aol.com Subject: Re: My Car is Talking To Me Grant- The Autozone test did reveal which sensor was acting up. It was "pre-catalyst, bank one." I'm not completely sure which side of the v8 is bank one, but I assumed the driver's side and am doing all sensors pre and post catalyst anyway this weekend. I would not assume they replaced the o2 sensor with the cat. In fact, I would really doubt it. They last 100k and more these days, and that would be an extra cost to BMW/the dealer. If it is new, it will be really shiny and would show up on the warranty receipt. I see you are in Chicago - I just drove back from there last night to St. Louis. Also - for those of you asking about 540's - feel free to contact me. I have a '97 six speed with 96k. With it being a first model year car and the mounting mileage, I am well aware of the cars quirks and strong points. Great car for business and highway cruising, (comfortable, fun and very fast) but my M3 gets the nod on the weekends. I plan on driving it for work as long as it will go. My last fiver was retired at 350K, and only because it was starting to look its age and mileage, and the fact that I found a sweethart deal on the 540... >I just did this for a check engine light on my '97 540/6. >As suspected, the test showed I had one oxygen sensor >on bank one going out. They reset the light and it >hasn't come back on. When I get a minute, I'm replacing >all four of my o2 sensors, since I'm almost at 100K anyway. Did the code indicate a specific O2 sensor, or did it more generally indicate that one of the sensors was foul? I recently had my convertor replaced under warranty, due to a loose heat shield...yes, a loose shield and voila, a new cat. With the new cat, I think a new O2 sensor or 2 would have been installed, assuming that there's one or more pre/post cat. Grant Chicago 98 M3/4...powered by Dinan