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#1. RE: [E36M3] Luxury Package question - from Robert S. Hatrak II
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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:53:28 -0800 From: "Robert S. Hatrak II" <hatrak@ix.netcom.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Luxury Package question Here's what I remember that my Lux Package came with: OBC Included Different front grill No front lip spoiler Different side ground effects Upgraded leather Electric seats (wider, non-Vader style) Leather covered arm rest Leather covered door inserts Cruise control included Chrome interior door release handles Wood door closing handle Wood glovebox insert Wood shifter surroung Wood shift knob An extra $3k added to the price I like some of these things so much that I deleted them after purchase. I put the regular M3 side skirts on, as well as the front mesh grill and front spoiler lip. I hope this helps. Rob 95 Lux M3 (w/ some non-lux appointments)
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Luxury Package question - from Joe Tan
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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:08:19 -0800 (PST) From: Joe Tan <mailjtan@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Luxury Package question This is not true. When the rear headrest was available in '98 the Luxury option for M3s was no longer available. Here is a list off my head: -Standard 3 series sports seats -Wood Interior trims -Slat bumper Grills -no lower bumper lips -Standard 3 series side skirts -Contour wheels ------------- Hunt wrote: Is there any definitive or unique feature that makes an M3 "Luxury Package"? I believe the "luxury package" included head rests for the back seats. I could be wrong though :) Michael Michalski 97 ///M3 Sedan Windy City Chapter __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Luxury Package question - from Robert S. Hatrak II
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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:10:01 -0800 From: "Robert S. Hatrak II" <hatrak@ix.netcom.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Luxury Package question Oops...I forgot to add the wheels are also changed on the Lux Package. M Contours came with the car instead of the spoke wheels of the regular M3. Rob -----Original Message----- Here's what I remember that my Lux Package came with: OBC Included Different front grill No front lip spoiler Different side ground effects Upgraded leather Electric seats (wider, non-Vader style) Leather covered arm rest Leather covered door inserts Cruise control included Chrome interior door release handles Wood door closing handle Wood glovebox insert Wood shifter surroung Wood shift knob An extra $3k added to the price I like some of these things so much that I deleted them after purchase. I put the regular M3 side skirts on, as well as the front mesh grill and front spoiler lip. I hope this helps. Rob 95 Lux M3 (w/ some non-lux appointments)
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#4. RE: Spacers - from Vern Anderson
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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:38:53 -0500 From: "Vern Anderson" <vernon_anderson@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Spacers Yes, based on lots of replies I received from my post, I was obviously mistaken. I had tried only two types of aftermarket wheels with my 10's - my current 17x9 SSR Integrals and another type (weren't mine and I forget what they were, at a track event in the paddock). Bad assumption on my part - guess my wheels are probably in the minority, those that can't use beveled 10mm spacers. Still not a bad thing to check when fitting spacers, as they do appear to bolt on correctly, but they won't torque and are horribly out of balance. Could be very dangerous if someone threw them on and went out to the track. Thanks everyone, good to know my 10mm spacers may not be fancy paperweights after all... Vern Anderson -------------------- 3 -------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:07:22 -0500 From: "BOOM,BILL (HP-Roseville,ex1)" <bill_boom@hp.com> Subject: RE: Spacers > From: "Vern Anderson" <vernon_anderson@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Spacers > > Success with 10mm spacers really depends on what kind of > wheel you are using > them with. If you're talking about an OEM wheel, you'll be > fine. If you're > planning on using them with some of the more popular > aftermarket wheels (SSR > Integrals and others), they will not work, period. > ... > 10mm spacers do not have enough thickness to make a flush > perpendicular lip and therefore the lip has a 45-degree > angle section on it which prevents use on most aftermarket > wheels. I have been searching far and wide for a > 7 or 10mm spacer with a design that can be used for my 17x9 SSR > Integrals, so beware if you have these types of wheels. I use 10mm spacers from Ultimate Garage on my 17x8 SSR GT1's. The spacers have the 45 degree angle you're talking about, but they fit perfectly flush on an identical 45 degree angle on the inside of my wheels. It's interesting that apparently there are wheels that don't have that angled surface. - Bill
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#5. m3 parts for sale. - from kitwetzler@mindspring.com
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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:06:01 -0500 From: "kitwetzler@mindspring.com" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: m3 parts for sale. Very much prefer local SF bay area buyers. GC race camber plates. Used on street only for less than 1000 miles. never tracked. Spherical bearing as well as needle bearings to ease the vertical loads on the spherical. Perfect shape, they come with a 60mm perch for H&R coilovers but work fine with 2.5" race springs, too. $275 UUC Rob Knob 1. with M logo. It's been used, has normal wear and tear on it. $40. Big ol' heavy sucka. I like it but got a rob knob III. Ron Stygar bent short shift lever. $50. (not 100% sure I have this, I gotta take a look this weekend... it's an Mroadster lever that Stygar bends) TSW Trophy 17x8 wheels. have corded G-force R1s on them. Make me an offer. They are track wheels and are straight and true, but are a little dirty, etc. Hub centric. ~38mm offset. -kit -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
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#6. Re: Luxury Package - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:09:09 +0000 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Luxury Package My 97 M3 had the luxury package. Here is goes: Leather quality is better (dont know the brand). No vader seats, just regular Sport Type seats found in regular 3 series with power adjustments. Front mesh grill is different with no lip (BMW calls it M Technic spoiler) Side rocker panels are different (again M Technic). They dont have the curve like the rest of the M3s. Wooden trim all across (the gear box wood trim costs $500 to replace ;) Leather trim on the door sides with stitches. Chrome door handles (inside). M Contour wheels standard All the options (eg suroof, OBC, Cruise etc). Seats did not have M stripes and no my 97 didnt have the rear head rests either. Its almost 160 pounds heavier than a regular M3. 1997 was the last year of that option. Ahmad 98 M3/2 _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Re: Any feedback on Bavarian Professionals in Berkele - from Go, Jeffrey
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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:26:54 +0100 From: "Go, Jeffrey" <jeffrey.go@sap.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Any feedback on Bavarian Professionals in Berkele y, CA? my 2 cents. Hope this is not out of thread..:) Try out German Motorsports in Sunnyvale... ask for Saied..knowledgeable as anyone I have met... jeff -----Original Message----- From: Jake McClean [mailto:sin@mail.value.net] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 10:23 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: Any feedback on Bavarian Professionals in Berkeley, CA? Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:12:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jake McClean <sin@mail.value.net> Subject: Re: Any feedback on Bavarian Professionals in Berkeley, CA? Fear not. I've used that shop exclusively since I bought my 95 M3 a couple years ago. I did a fair amount of research on good shops at the time (no warranty makes it a bit of a priority) and discovered Bavarian Professionals. They are simply phenomenal. Top notch service, excellent work, and prices that'll *easily* beat out any dealer. Often when I'm there, I'll meet people from all over the Bay Area (San Jose, Napa, San Francisco, I even drive in from Martinez) because the shop is just "that good". They stand by their work, and it shows. Jake 95 M3 > Need a ton of work done on my '95 M3 Lux (110k miles), > and I'm not much of a diy'er. Urgent needs are an > Inspection and brakes, but I'm gonna need some new > tires, fluid flushes, wheel bearings, > belts...basically the wear and tear parts are worn and > torn at this point! Thanks for the help in getting my > M back into fighting shape (or daily driving shape, at > least!). > > Advice on any other shop would also be appreciated. I > work in Emeryville and live in the East Bay. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#8. : Help with Radio Code - from mtzenz@excite.com
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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:27:10 -0500 (EST) From: "mtzenz@excite.com" <mtzenz@excite.com> Subject: : Help with Radio Code Joe, Get the serial number and call BMW Technical Support (get it through BMW Customer Support or the dealership). They can give you the Radio Code if you have the serial number. I did this when I bought my 1997 M3/2. Mark Zenz -------------------- 2 --------------------Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:51:34 -0800 (PST)From: Junaidi Irwan <cuwei@yahoo.com>Subject: RE: Help with Radio CodeJoe wrote:> Hi folks,> > I recently disconnected the battery on my M3 and> found> out that I'll need a code to get my stereo working> again. I couldn't find the card with the code that I> am supposed to have in my manual. My nearest dealer> is> only willing to help only if I pay them $75, which I> think it's outrageous. since I already have the> Serial# for the radio. There is another dealer who> is> willing to do it for free but it's about a hour> drive> from me. Does anyone have access to lookup the code> for me? If you can help please email me. That will> save me a long drive to the dealer out of my area.> > TIA,> > Joe.> '98 M3/4Listers, correct me if I am wrong, but the only way toget the radio code is through the BMW dealers. SorryJoe, looks like you need to either pay $75 or drive anhour. Jay _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Luxury Package question - from Mike Frank
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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:48:39 -0500 From: Mike Frank <mfrank28@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Luxury Package question There are others on this list who know this stuff better than me, but I think the Lux also had chrome door handles, the padded leather door inserts that came standard on the 96/97? and later M3s (different version), and the folding center armrest that showed up in all models starting in 98? I think rear headrests were also a 98? addition but not a Lux addition. Someone could easily swap the Lux/Sport variations though. HTH, and hope it's correct, Mike Frank 97 M3 > -------------------- 9 -------------------- > Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:27:33 -0800 > From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Luxury Package question > > At 09:53 AM 2/21/03, Hunt Hodgetts wrote: > >It was power seats and wood dash but I've seen other > >M3's that definitely were not "Luxury Package" cars > >that did have those options. > > Those are individual options as well. Other items in the Package that I > can > recall are the front bumper cover having horizontal slats rather than the > mess, and no black lower lip. I also think Contour wheels were part of the > Lux Package - those were "no-cost" options later. > > That's all I can think of off the top of my head. > > Jim Bassett > 1998 M3/4 - non-lux with power seats and Contours > 1993 325is #44 A5/JP - definitely non-lux :-)
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Battery Advice - from Ed Yee
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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:03:26 -0500 From: "Ed Yee" <edyee@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Battery Advice I think that sealed maintenance-free batteries still have a pressure relief mechanism that may allow some hydrogen and acid to vent in case of excess temp/charging voltage. I purchased an OEM battery from the dealer last year. My old battery has vent caps to add water, but the new battery is maintenance free and still has a hookup for the vent tube. I paid around $100. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Maller" <neil.maller@gte.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: [E36M3] Re: Battery Advice > Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:15:37 -0500 > From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> > Subject: Re: Battery Advice > > on 2/21/03 12:43 PM, Darling Christopher O Maj ACSC Student AY03 > <Christopher.Darling@MAXWELL.AF.MIL> wrote: > > > Hi folks, it looks like battery #2 on my 8.5 year-old, 105K mile 95 M3 is > > getting ready to give up the ghost. > > > > I was considering going to aftermarket this time, but am concerned about fit > > and compatibility with the existing drain tube, etc. What is the consensus > > about models and sources for a battery? Also, what should I expect to pay > > for aftermarket and for a factory battery from the dealer? > > I saved Rich Dorffer's recommendation of some time ago: > > > I bought an Interstate MTP-91 for $85 directly from a distributor including > > the vent tube extension. > > Perfect fit (BCI #91 (48)), 700 CCA, 72 month warranty and 11 pounds lighter > > than stock battery. Absolutely no modification needed for the battery hold > > down system. > > Here you go: > > http://www.ibsa.com/www_2001/content/products/product_auto.asp > > And a dealer locator system for your price shopping extravaganza: > > http://www.ibsa.com/estore/dealer_locator.asp > > knowing that I'd need it some time. Well a few weeks ago my original (June > 96 car purchase) battery finally died. With over six and a half years life I > can't complain. > > I bought the Interstate at a local Firestone Tire store for $75 plus tax. I > did my own installation. They did have to order it, but it came the next > day. > > The new battery is sealed, so the vent tube isn't needed. The Interstate is > also shorter, but the battery tray has an alternate hole for the hold-down > bolt that works perfectly. > > No muss, no fuss, good price. > > Oh, and don't forget to have your radio security code available for > afterwards. > > Neil > 96 M3 > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#11. RTABs, etc Trivia - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:05:36 -0500 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: RTABs, etc Trivia I spent some time scanning the ETK, comparing part numbers for the Rear Trailing Arm Bushing (RTAB), as well as the mounts that attach the upper and lower wishbones to the rear trailing arms. I found some interesting info. Some of this information has been posted on the list in the past, but I wanted to put it all together in one message. What I found was the following: Non-M E36s and the '95 M3 use the following: 33 32 1 097 009 (RTAB) 33 32 1 138 722* (ball joint, attaches upper wishbone to trailing arm) 33 32 1 140 345 33 32 1 136 311 (rubber mount, attaches lower wishbone to trailing arm) The '96+ M3 uses the following: 33 32 2 228 153 (RTAB) 33 32 1 138 722* (ball joint, attaches upper wishbone to trailing arm) 33 32 1 140 345 33 32 1 138 722* (ball joint, attaches lower wishbone to trailing arm) 33 32 1 140 345 * (The 33 32 1 138 722 has been superceded by 33 32 1 140 345) It has been mentioned here in the past that the ball joint can be used in place of the rubber mount on non-M E36s and the '95 M3, and it's probably a good thing to do. What I found interesting is that, on the E46, BMW has done a similar thing. On the non-M E46: 33 32 1 097 009 (RTAB) 33 32 1 138 722* (ball joint, attaches upper wishbone to trailing arm) 33 32 1 140 345 33 32 1 136 311 (rubber mount, attaches lower wishbone to trailing arm) While on the E46 M3: 33 32 2 228 153 (RTAB) 33 32 1 138 722* (ball joint, attaches upper wishbone to trailing arm) 33 32 1 140 345 33 32 1 138 722* (ball joint, attaches lower wishbone to trailing arm) 33 32 1 140 345 Hopefully, someone will find this information useful. It also shows that BMW tries to minimize what's in the parts bin! Ron Buchalski BMWCCA #76387 1995 E36 M3 1993 E34 525iT 1999 Mazda Miata _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus