E36M3 #3058

Wednesday, April 09, 2003 17:54:23

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#1. Re: Who wants to go in on a 24lb injector buy? - from Neil Maller
#2. Who wants to go in on a 24lb injector buy? - from Dorffer, Rich
#3. Re: [E36M3] crack pipe? - from Kit Wetzler
#4. Re: [E36M3] Who wants to go in on a 24lb injector buy? - from Patrick Buthmann
#5. Re: Track guys - interest in Front splitter? - from Pedro Aceves
#6. for sale: LTW/GT replica rear wing in alpine white - from Scott Yu
#7. H&R coilover spring perch: problem resolved - from Scott Yu
#8. Re: [E36M3] 15W50 Mobil 1 for summer: anyone use this? - from Robert Chay
#9. Re: hi flow cats? - from Jake McClean
#10. Oil selection follow up - from James Clay

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#1. Re: Who wants to go in on a 24lb injector buy? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 15:35:23 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Who wants to go in on a 24lb injector buy? on 4/9/03 2:03 PM, DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> wrote: > the track pipe still adds as much power as a set of schrick cams, which > require bigger injectors. For equivalent mechanical losses you get more power by burning more fuel. So if we believe that the track pipe gains as much power as cams, and the cams require bigger injectors, then so does the track pipe. Neil 96 M3

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#2. Who wants to go in on a 24lb injector buy? - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 16:38:39 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Who wants to go in on a 24lb injector buy? > I see AA peak hp with the track pipe is 217.9 hp. We have a totally stock > '95 M3 here in Dallas that turns over 223 rwhp - absolutely no mods to it. > So if AA is claiming 20+ hp and only has 217.9 hp, then it must be a very > weak M3 to start with. Wow, that I would like to see. 223 rwhp from a stock '95 M3!! That is something like 265 - 270 crank hp. They must have handpicked one too many motors off the line for the LTWs and slammed it into this stock M3 instead. :-) Regards, Rich 95 - hopes it has 223 rwhp with JC chip/intake and Euro HFM

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#3. Re: [E36M3] crack pipe? - from Kit Wetzler
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Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 13:44:35 -0700 From: "Kit Wetzler" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] crack pipe? > Since pretty much all the aftermarket exhausts only > give +5 hp, I pretty much discount that, a stock > exhaust will do about as well. I've got dyno tests on multiple cars that prove it doesn't so well with a stock exhaust. Without an exhaust, the track pipe barely adds any more power than a catback does, alone. Both combined, and the results are pretty impressive.

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Who wants to go in on a 24lb injector buy? - from Patrick Buthmann
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Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 14:16:41 -0700 From: "Patrick Buthmann" <patrick@teutonic.ca> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Who wants to go in on a 24lb injector buy? Actually, it's more like 245-250 HP at the crank. A lot of people wildly overstate driveline losses, but at best, the rear diff on a BMW is worth 8-10% driveline losses. The tranny losses are minimal (sub 1%). Bosch automotive manuals support these statistics as well (and Bosch is probably one of the largest builders of engine and rolling dyno's in the world). On Euro 3.0L (286 flywheel HP) cars, we dyno those at a consistent 255-260 rwhp, and OBD-I 3.2L conversions at about 235-240 rwhp. Without pulling the engine (and testing on an engine dyno), there is really no way to guarantee that ANY E36 M3 is actually producing 240 flywheel HP. So, I'd suggest taking RWHP and using it just as that, proven RWHP. Pat >> I see AA peak hp with the track pipe is 217.9 hp. We have a totally stock >> '95 M3 here in Dallas that turns over 223 rwhp - absolutely no mods to it. >> So if AA is claiming 20+ hp and only has 217.9 hp, then it must be a very >> weak M3 to start with. > >Wow, that I would like to see. 223 rwhp from a stock '95 M3!! That is something like 265 - 270 crank hp. They must have handpicked one too many motors off the line for the LTWs and slammed it into this stock M3 instead. > >:-) > >Regards, > >Rich > >95 - hopes it has 223 rwhp with JC chip/intake and Euro HFM ____________________________________________________________ Free 20MB Web Site Hosting and Personalized E-mail Service! Get It Now At Doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com/et/

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#5. Re: Track guys - interest in Front splitter? - from Pedro Aceves
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Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:23:32 -0600 From: Pedro Aceves <aceves@mac.com> Subject: Re: Track guys - interest in Front splitter? I would be interested but I wouldn't have the funds available until late spring/early summer. What exactly does "minor modification" mean, if it similar to the process of installing the motorsport LTW splitter on a non-ltw M3 that wouldn't be so bad. Pedro Aceves. On Wednesday, April 9, 2003, at 02:13 PM, E36M3 wrote: > -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 16:04:49 -0400 > From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> > Subject: Track guys - interest in Front splitter? > > Any interest in a front splitter for the stock E36 front bumper? This > will > be a carbon-fiber piece and consist of a riser and full undertray. The > resulting piece is way more effective than the Motorsport lightweight > splitter because of the substantial undertray and much lighter. > Height off > the ground will be 3-4.5", price is about $900, some minor fabrication > required to install. Trying to decide if I should make more than just > for > our cars. > > James > > > James Clay > http://www.bimmerworld.com > Engineered BMW Performance > 540.639.9648

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#6. for sale: LTW/GT replica rear wing in alpine white - from Scott Yu
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Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 14:52:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Yu <segascott@yahoo.com> Subject: for sale: LTW/GT replica rear wing in alpine white Howdy folks, I have a GT/LTW replica wing for sale (well, it's based more on the Hamann version than the LTW). The surface has been professionally finished to be almost free of wavy distortions, especially compared to most of the other replicas out there (this should be evident in the pictures). My reason for selling? I found a Breyton wing that I think looks a lot better with my front splitter. pictures of the wing can be seen here: http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=3d34270fda94fa5f993410c8475058f3&threadid=89447 Located in the Bay Area, CA, and I really don't want to ship it. The wing is sprayed in Alpine White III with a proper clearcoat and should fit any E36 Coupe, I'm not sure about sedans. Wing is the short version, and I don't think it will work with height extensions. Asking $200. Thanks a lot, Scott Yu '97 M3, Bay Area RD Class II splitter, Breyton Adjustable wing __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com

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#7. H&R coilover spring perch: problem resolved - from Scott Yu
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Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:24:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Yu <segascott@yahoo.com> Subject: H&R coilover spring perch: problem resolved H&R took a look at my lengthy, verbose, and far too detailed description of the perch failure (with pictures, too!) and today informed me that they would be honoring this as a warranty item. My faith in H&R is renewed. It required some amount of momentum before things got resolved, but resolved they are. yay, scott --- Scott Yu <segascott@yahoo.com> wrote: > > One of my rear spring perch ride height adjusters > CRACKED and a chunk fell off. I've been on the phone > with H&R but they're giving me the runaround, and > saying that I must have "misused" or "improperly > installed" the suspension. Good grief. The other > perch > was just peachy. > > Anyway, just wondering if anyone else has > experienced > this problem. And if you haven't - it might be a > good > idea to check your rear adjusters! mine were only on > the car for 1.5 years, the car was stock otherwise > with no modifications, and at near-max ride height. > A > large chunk of the spring perch broke off, I'd be > happy to send pics to anyone interested. > > Also, if you've had this problem I'd love to hear > from > you. H&R claims they've never received a warranty > request for this item, if multiple people had > experienced this failure I'm sure it would be a lot > easier to get them to address the issue. > > Regards, > > Scott Yu > '97 M3 > Bay Area, CA __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com

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#8. Re: [E36M3] 15W50 Mobil 1 for summer: anyone use this? - from Robert Chay
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Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 18:24:16 -0400 From: Robert Chay <rchay@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 15W50 Mobil 1 for summer: anyone use this? Costco in Hackensack had cases of 0w40 Mobil 1 a few months ago. There were a few guys that tried it many moons ago but haven't heard from them. Opinions on motor oil is like a$$holes... everyone's got one. I've been using 5w50 since I got the car and have had absolutely NO problems. No lifter tick at 110+ track events, autox's or regular street driving. I get good gas mileage and don't burn any oil. I have no reason to change and don't plan on it. Also remember when you use different oil, it takes a couple of oil changes to get the benefits from the additives (usually). When you change oil weights, you notice fairly quickly though. Synthetics are supposed to last much longer than dino oil and that's the reason BMW recommends 15k between oil changes. I've read all over the internet about people testing their synthetic oil after 5k, 10k and 15k miles and the oil was still "good". I don't think I'd change it at 15k miles but I've gone 8k with only a filter change at 4k and the oil wasn't sludge. Then again, that wasn't too scientific and I know how much you guys LOVE data so you can ignore the last comment. -Bobby Nowhere near a crack pipe (that I know of) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Wong" <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > > Uh...if you can find it. I've never seen it in stores....only in magazine ads. > Oil-vaporware? > > Chester > > --- ChuckBrazeau@aol.com wrote: > > > > Just curious what everyones thoughts are on Mobil 1's 0W40 oil that is their > > "European Car Formula"? >

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#9. Re: hi flow cats? - from Jake McClean
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Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:30:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jake McClean <sin@mail.value.net> Subject: Re: hi flow cats? Hmm. Has anyone ever looked into some of the "high flow" cats available out there? They tend to come with larger inlets/outlets and most boast significantly higher flow rates than typical cats. Anyone know if they're worth the time/money? Also, FWIW, I've driven in the bay area, CA for the last 10 years or so, and I've never seen a roadside dyno-spot check. I heard rumors of them a couple years back, but only briefly down in the south bay where uber-modded honda racers were zipping around without cats. The big issue there was really noise more than it was pollution. Those little 4 bangers are LOUD without cats in place. Jake 95 M3 > Kit Wrote: > The track pipe does significantly increase the area under the > curve. However, with a stock exhaust, it really doesn't make a whole > lot more power. The cats are a significant power bottleneck, though. > > Just remember, especially those of you in Smog Check II areas, in the > people's republic of CA... it's legal to have roadside dynos on which > they do spot checking of emissions. Not having cats is a $1500 > fine. And, on a load based dyno emissions test, it's REALLY obvious > that you don't have cats. > > I'm probably going to risk it, new cats are a lot more expensive than > the crack pipe, so I figure if I can keep the crack pipe on the car and > save the stock cats, all will be good. Also, it allows you to get much > more accurate a/f ratios for tuning, without welding a bung onto the > exhaust pre-cats.

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#10. Oil selection follow up - from James Clay
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Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 18:50:46 -0400 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: Oil selection follow up Two things: -US engines have hydraulic lifters and the heavier oil keeps them from bleeding down as much (the cause of the tapping sound when you get off the track usually, hopefully!). -10w40 was the worst conventional oil out because it tried to accomplish too much - heat range was too wide. I don't know enough about synthetics in street applications, but I think they are more stable and this isn't an issue anymore. I might investigate before I used a 5w50 though - not saying it is bad, just raises a flag for me. James James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com Engineered BMW Performance 540.639.9648

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