E36M3 #3066

Friday, April 11, 2003 19:17:28

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#1. BMW shop in Topeka, KS? - from John B
#2. Camber Questions - from Steven Tom
#3. Re: [E36M3] Camber Questions - from Robert Chay
#4. Re: [E36M3] Camber Questions - from twisty M3
#5. Re: [E36M3] Camber Questions - from DocWyte
#6. Re: 15W50 Mobil 1 for summer: anyone use this? - from Neil Maller
#7. Re: Drivetrain losses - from Neil Maller
#8. Fwd: Re: funky dyno plot? - from Zack Steinkamp
#9. McLaren F1 Video with Mercedes Street Cars - from Heckendorf, David
#10. Re: [E36M3] McLaren F1 Video with Mercedes Street Cars - from Jesse Caldwell

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#1. BMW shop in Topeka, KS? - from John B
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: John B <john0990@yahoo.com> Subject: BMW shop in Topeka, KS? Hi All, I'm currently researching a 2001 325iT located in Topeka, KS and am wondering if anyone can recommend a local shop to have a thorough pre-buy inspection done. Thanks in advance for the help. John '95 M3 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com

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#2. Camber Questions - from Steven Tom
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:41:40 -0700 From: Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> Subject: Camber Questions Okay so it's about time to get some more camber on my front end. What are the ways to get more? Camber plates, crash bolts, washers. Washers; Who has done the washer thing? Did you simply stack a couple on the lower attachment point? Did you use shim stock washers for accuracy? Crash Bolts; I hear that this will not work for our cars because of the way the strut mounts onto the hub. H&R makes varying crash bolts but they confirmed that it won't work. Camber plates; I hear good and bad stories about these running the H&R c/o kit. I heard people having binding issues with the GC setup. Can someone confirm this. Thanks for all the help. steve

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Camber Questions - from Robert Chay
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:50:59 -0400 From: Robert Chay <rchay@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Camber Questions I never agreed with using washers or crash bolts to increase camber. It's a half-assed way to get more camber and possibly dangerous. I bought a set of KMacs and have been happy using them. I did the install myself so it was only ~$250 for the kit. I did get an alignment after I installed it and my own alignment by sight was pretty damn close. -Bobby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Tom" <stom@qualcomm.com> > > Okay so it's about time to get some more camber on my front end. What are > the ways to get more? Camber plates, crash bolts, washers. > Washers; > Who has done the washer thing? Did you simply stack a couple on the lower > attachment point? Did you use shim stock washers for accuracy? > > Crash Bolts; > I hear that this will not work for our cars because of the way the strut > mounts onto the hub. H&R makes varying crash bolts but they confirmed that > it won't work. > > Camber plates; > I hear good and bad stories about these running the H&R c/o kit. I heard > people having binding issues with the GC setup. Can someone confirm this. > > Thanks for all the help. > > steve > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Camber Questions - from twisty M3
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:20:57 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Camber Questions >From: Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> > >Subject: Camber Questions > >Washers; >Who has done the washer thing? Did you simply stack a couple on the lower >attachment point? Did you use shim stock washers for accuracy? > I had done this originally, but I can't remember the measurements of the washers I used. They were small enought that I could still use the stock bolts, however. They gave me a total of -1.8° of camber (with stock suspension), but I was also stuck using 225/45-17s because of them. When I moved to 8.5" wheels in the front, I had to get rid of those and go to camber plates. > >Camber plates; >I hear good and bad stories about these running the H&R c/o kit. I heard >people having binding issues with the GC setup. Can someone confirm this. > I used to run the TC Kline plates and kept them set at around -3.0°. The only negative to these was that I originally installed them without the factory reinforcement plates, which cuased for some mine dimpling of the shock towers. I reinstalled them with the plates and had no problems afterward. Ended up removing them simply because I wasn't utilizing their adjustability, and I have dreams that my car will eventually be a stock class race car. No plates allowed. I went to swapped strut hats. I now have the swapped strut hats (on a '99) with Bilst/H&R and those basically put me exactly where I liked them originally... -3.2° camber. Tire wear isn't all that bad, but I try to flip the tires on the rims about half way through their life cycle. If you don't mind that much camber and the crisp turn in the results from it, it's certainly one of the most economical ways to go. Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Camber Questions - from DocWyte
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:37:10 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Camber Questions I got about -2 degrees negative camber on my '95 M3 by using the '96+ M3 upper strut bearing plates swapped L->R. Cheaper than KMAC's and factory qaulity. -josh --- Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> wrote: > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 13:41:40 -0700 > From: Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> > Subject: Camber Questions > > Okay so it's about time to get some more camber on > my front end. What are > the ways to get more? Camber plates, crash bolts, > washers. > Washers; > Who has done the washer thing? Did you simply stack > a couple on the lower > attachment point? Did you use shim stock washers > for accuracy? > > Crash Bolts; > I hear that this will not work for our cars because > of the way the strut > mounts onto the hub. H&R makes varying crash bolts > but they confirmed that > it won't work. > > Camber plates; > I hear good and bad stories about these running the > H&R c/o kit. I heard > people having binding issues with the GC setup. Can > someone confirm this. > > Thanks for all the help. > > steve > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com

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#6. Re: 15W50 Mobil 1 for summer: anyone use this? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:47:58 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: 15W50 Mobil 1 for summer: anyone use this? on 4/11/03 3:26 PM, Gcfuller@aol.com wrote: > With SYTHETIC oil, viscosity has very little to do with engine protection, and > maybe somewhat contrary with what we have heard for years with regard to dino > oil. Because of synthetics film strength, a thinner sythetic protects better > than a thicker conventional. <big snip> However you've left out another important factor: temperature. M3 engines used on the track achieve temperatures in excess - sometimes well in excess - of 250F unless equipped with an oil cooler. And that's measured in the oil pan. Hot spots are likely to be way above that. All oils get thinner as they get hot, although synthetics thin out less than normal oils. If your oil sees track level temperatures, then I don't think that --W30 (the low number only matters when the oil is cold) is going to do the job. Under those conditions the --W50 is going to thin out enough that it's flowing more like a much lower weight oil. Of course a better solution would be to fit an oil cooler. Neil 96 M3

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#7. Re: Drivetrain losses - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:08:17 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Drivetrain losses Steve said: > With the cam kit, I went from 202.8 to 245. on 4/11/03 7:46 AM, "Patrick Buthmann" <patrick@teutonic.ca> wrote: > For just a cam kit? That's an awful lot of RWHP gain for the cam kit > alone...I'd say you got your money's worth on that one. Pat, Remember that the cam kit isn't just a set of cams. You also get a larger intake manifold and HFM plus adapters, low restriction air filter, cold air box, bigger injectors to feed all the above and software to make it all work together. Neil 96 M3 - cam kit

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#8. Fwd: Re: funky dyno plot? - from Zack Steinkamp
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:10:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp <edsarkiss@yahoo.com> Subject: Fwd: Re: funky dyno plot? i mailed the shop that did the dyno plot in question. he claims the original (un-shifted) plot is correct. i'll leave it at that, since i'm afraid i may have beaten the dead horse a bit much already. zs --- dick chiang <dickchiang@mindspring.com> wrote: > From: "dick chiang" <dickchiang@mindspring.com> > To: "Zack Steinkamp" <edsarkiss@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: funky dyno plot? > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 14:45:17 -0700 > > Recently, we had a supercharged M3 break the > crankshaft keyway when it hit > the rev. limiter on the dyno. We think that the > part was faulty but since > then, we don't try to purposely hit the limiter. > So, unlike in the past, > the endpoints aren't as consistent. The original > run is correct. > > DC > > Dynospot Racing > www.dynospotracing.com > 1798 Angela Street > San Jose, CA 95125 > 408.271.9800 phone > 408.271.9880 fax > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zack Steinkamp" <edsarkiss@yahoo.com> > To: <dc@dynospotracing.com> > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:19 PM > Subject: funky dyno plot? > > > > hiya -- > > > > there's a fair amount of discussion going on in an > > online forum about this dyno chart: > > > > http://nobot.2y.net/m3/dyno_orig.jpg > > > > what caught my eye was that it seems that the 2nd > dyno > > run has been transposed up about 200 RPM. the > owner > > claims the only mod between the runs was the AA > Track > > Pipe -- so no rev limiter change was made. > > > > i've shifted the 2nd run back so that end endpoint > > matches the first: > > > > http://nobot.2y.net/m3/dyno_shifted.jpg > > > > which do you think is more correct? > > > > eager to hear your reply, > > zs > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, > forms, and more > > http://tax.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com

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#9. McLaren F1 Video with Mercedes Street Cars - from Heckendorf, David
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:44:00 -0600 From: "Heckendorf, David" <David_Heckendorf@cable.comcast.com> Subject: McLaren F1 Video with Mercedes Street Cars I can't seem to find the right words to get a Google hit of the McLaren video that has David Coulthard chasing down both a Mercedes A-Class Mercedes E-Class at Silverstone. It was intended to illustrate how much faster than road cars an F1 car is... Anybody know where I can find this video? TIA!, Dave

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#10. Re: [E36M3] McLaren F1 Video with Mercedes Street Cars - from Jesse Caldwell
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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:11:19 -0600 From: Jesse Caldwell <Jesse.Caldwell@Colorado.EDU> Subject: Re: [E36M3] McLaren F1 Video with Mercedes Street Cars > > I can't seem to find the right words to get a Google hit of the McLaren > video that has David Coulthard chasing down both a Mercedes A-Class > Mercedes E-Class at Silverstone. It was intended to illustrate how much > faster than road cars an F1 car is... > > Anybody know where I can find this video? > i'll never get rid of this video. i swear it's the only time i've seen that cheeky coulthard pass someone. :) http://matrix.colorado.edu/~jesse/Mercedes_vs_McLaren_F1.mpg if anyone has a higher quality copy let me know... Jesse

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