E36M3 #3087

Monday, April 21, 2003 21:36:35

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. [E36M3] Clutch Arm Bushing - from Steve Tymoszuk
#2. Sway Bar Reinforcement - from Dorffer, Rich
#3. RE: [E36M3] Best Handling Car- Depends... - from Jason \(RaceBro\)
#4. nkg plugs - from Jay Johnson
#5. battery - from Sam Langley
#6. WTB: Used lightweight flywheel - from Michael Gilbert
#7. Gas Treatment/fuel stabilizer - from david tow
#8. RE: [E36M3] Best Handling Car- Depends... - from Juan Rico
#9. RE: [E36M3] Best Handling Car- Depends... - from Andrew E. Kalman
#10. Re: [E36M3] Sway Bar Reinforcement - from Jay W. Hudson

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#1. [E36M3] Clutch Arm Bushing - from Steve Tymoszuk
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 18:04:06 -0400 From: Steve Tymoszuk <steve.tymoszuk@tds.net> Subject: [E36M3] Clutch Arm Bushing Hello, I am about to replace my squeaking clutch pedal bushing with the UUC replacement. I was wondering if there were any tricks or gotchyas I should be aware of while doing the replacement? Thanks, Steve

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#2. Sway Bar Reinforcement - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 18:07:42 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Sway Bar Reinforcement I know this is discussed with some regularity (at least we haven't discussed it in the past few digests like a couple of recent questions) but I figured I would bring it up again. What is everyone recommending for beefing up their sway bar attachment points? I think Turner has some and Dinan too. Any others? Any recommendations as to what to purchase and best method of reinforcement? Write-ups or tips? Thanks in advance. Regards, Rich 95 M3 - UUC Anti-Sway Bars

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#3. RE: [E36M3] Best Handling Car- Depends... - from Jason \(RaceBro\)
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 15:08:27 -0700 From: "Jason \(RaceBro\)" <racebro@santacruzbicycles.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Best Handling Car- Depends... Juan et all, Having owned both a waaaay overmodded Cobra (actually 5 in all Mustangs of various incarnations) I can say that while driving the car with the rear end hung out is more difficult in an M3 (probably due to weight bias F vs. R) the car is far more driveable at the limit. I've only spun the M once, and that was going through 11 at Laguna Seca when I missed the downshift to 2nd-- the car started rotating and I was reduced to the roll of passenger. No damage though-- just copious amounts of ego bruising. :) The Cobra would be somewhat more fun to drive agressively at slower speeds (when you were actually trying to hang the rear end out) but got very scary very quickly when you weren't trying. The M3 has a much higher tolerance of driver error, and is much more predictable at the limits of adhesion. Just my .02.... Jason Lombard Santa Cruz Bicycles, Inc. jason@santacruzbicycles.com (831)459-7560 x 30 http://www.santacruzbicycles.com <http://www.santacruzbicycles.com> --- -------------------- 3 -------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 13:39:27 -0700 From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Best Handling Car- Depends... The article states: "Even at the hairy edge of traction, the M3 is accepting of further driver input, which builds tremendous confidence. Unlike the NSX, the Viper, or even the F355, you feel free to explore the M3 s limits without fear that something awful awaits if you miscalculate." Was the guy who wrote this smocking crack? I'm by no means a Nuvolari, I know, but my experience with the M3 after 6 years of ownership and 140K miles is exactly the opposite of this. Once the M3 decides to go, it goes and most of the time it's gone... I'm not saying there's not some margin for recovery, but just about every other car I've driven in my life has been easier to throw around, recover and have fun in sliding without staining my pants. If you miscalculate with the M3, something terrible *does* await you... And unless I'm on a track, the M3 is a car I would NEVER feel comfortable exploring the limits. I'd rather test the limits on a 400 HP Mustang Cobra... On the road, the M3 is an absolute marvel while it's gripping and not on the hairy edge of traction. Anyway, just my experience.... Juan.

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#4. nkg plugs - from Jay Johnson
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 15:13:29 -0700 From: Jay Johnson <jay@pactitle.com> Subject: nkg plugs I switch to nkg plugs a few weeks ago. I changed plugs before I went to get the car smogged. It probably was the thing that kept me just under the limit. What I noticed was definite improved wot performance but rough idling after the car is warmed up. It feels like a car with a hot cam at idle. Like I would know what that feels like! Do you think the rough idle could be hurting the car in anyway? The gaps were all adjusted to match as best I could with those split electrodes. Jay 95M3 sharked/intaked -------------------- 6 -------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:50:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Spark plug impression Well, I swapped out the '96+ Bosch plugs for '95 Bosch plugs two weeks ago. I originally ordered the NGKs, but they were superceeded to the Bosch part. Whether you can have them manually override the supercession...I dunno. Anyway, with the '95 plugs, gone is the weird raspy (pinging) sound at WOT. Fuel milage does appear to be affected. The only downside is at idle where every so often, there's a slight miss. I've heard this miss on other '95s, but I don't know enough about ignition systems to make a comment. Chester =====

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#5. battery - from Sam Langley
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 18:34:06 -0400 From: Sam Langley <samrl@triad.rr.com> Subject: battery Well, after nearly 9 years my stock battery died on me today build date of 6/94 and 100,000 miles and went kablooey in the grocery store parking lot, in front of an ATM machine :) Nice thing is, Douglas Battery is < 100 miles from the house, but no one within 35 miles carried the group 92, wound up getting from dealership in greensboro sam 95 M3

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#6. WTB: Used lightweight flywheel - from Michael Gilbert
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 19:29:33 -0400 From: "Michael Gilbert" <mjg2002@attbi.com> Subject: WTB: Used lightweight flywheel I'm looking for a good deal on a used aluminum LTW flywheel, with or without racing clutch. Please email privately. Now that the interior is out, I'm thinking it may be easier to move to prepared than put that damn heavy carpet back in!! ;^) TIA, -Mike mgilbert1@attbi.com

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#7. Gas Treatment/fuel stabilizer - from david tow
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:32:36 -0700 From: "david tow" <david_tow@hotmail.com> Subject: Gas Treatment/fuel stabilizer I have a question for those of you who have older cars that spend most of their time parking (mine is a 1972). Do you have any recommendation for a good gasoline treatment/fuel stabilizer for a car that does not get used often? Sta-bil Concentrated Fuel Stabilizer is one I have heard of. Sorry about the non-M3 question. Thanks for the info! Please respond privately. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Best Handling Car- Depends... - from Juan Rico
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 18:44:10 -0700 From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Best Handling Car- Depends... For all of you who disagree with me, let me make a little clarification. My post was in reference to street driving, when driving at slower speeds and just having fun around corners and letting the tail hang out-- although not only limited to these acts of hooliganism. I wasn't referring to the track. I know it's not the safest thing to do on the street, but who hasn't done this on the street at some point or on a solitary canyon road when nobody is around? You know all those shots you see in car magazines of road testers pulling nice slides and drifts on roads? Driving like this is just not feasible in an M3 unless you are a pro. And even then... In other cars it's much easier. Is this not a handling issue? What I don't like about the M3, and I still firmly believe this, is its uncertainty which makes it impossible to drive rally style (to put an extreme example for illustrative and argumentative albeit dramatic purposes). Also, even driving normally, notice how a lot of people who have crashed their M3's in the rain will tell you that one moment they were driving, and all of a sudden because of a change in pavement, or an awkward camber change, etc. the car started to rotate and was impossible to catch, corrections or no corrections at the steering wheel. A lot of people have crashed their M3's this way. When the rainy season comes around, M3's are body shop queens. The M3 is indeed a very difficult car to spin on the street in dry conditions, unless you're really driving like a moron. But if it starts spinning (something that occurs with far more frequency in the rain) many drivers can only sit and pray... I think it was a British magazine (EVO, CAR, BMW?) that said once the M3 goes, hold on to dear life, or something to that effect as a stain in the car's otherwise excellent review. Apparently, at higher speeds on a track it's a different story, but I haven't been there. I'm not disputing that. Maybe you are all one step away from being professional drivers... When I do my first driving school I'll let you know. Either way, the M3 is a street car first and then maybe a track car. Juan. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#9. RE: [E36M3] Best Handling Car- Depends... - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 19:20:06 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Best Handling Car- Depends... This one caught my eye: >What I don't like about the M3, and I still firmly believe this, is its >uncertainty which makes it impossible to drive rally style (to put an >extreme example for illustrative and argumentative albeit dramatic >purposes). As someone who has driven an E36 M3 rally-style, I can say that while my car may not have been set up the best for rally (it was totally stock), it was eminently controllable on the way up Pikes Peak. I could have used an extra 200 hp, but I caught it many times (in my video you can see me turn the wheel 180 degrees and back again at around 70mph just to keep it going in the right direction) and was really quite happy with its performance, given that it wasn't at all suited to / setup for the conditions. I'd say that on-track, I've managed to "catch it" about half the time, and the rest of the time I had to face up to the fact that I was too late in reacting and I let it go off easy and controlled. No hard hits yet ... I've had way more problems with my brakes / my braking than I've had with the chassis / grip / handling. I think the car (in stock form, at least) is a joy to drive at the limit. An understeering joy, that is ... Driving a car at the limit as you describe is basically a dance where you manage momentum and grip. The more power you have, the more control you'll have. Sadly, the M3 doesn't have much power. Some people are better at it than others, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're faster. It just means that they're comfortable "with the tail hanging out" or whatever. Read "Inner Speed Secrets" by Ross Bentley if you haven't already. He really understands how to drive in a manner that will not surprise you when the grip breaks loose. Regards, -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Sway Bar Reinforcement - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 19:28:54 -0700 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@cdsnet.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sway Bar Reinforcement I just got the ones from GC. Only $2 + shipping. Had 'em welded in last weekend, prior to my DE Sat. Pretty straightforward. So far, so good. Jay At 05:16 PM 4/21/03 -0500, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 18:07:42 -0400 >From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> >Subject: Sway Bar Reinforcement > >I know this is discussed with some regularity (at least we haven't discussed it in the past few digests like a couple of recent questions) but I figured I would bring it up again. > >What is everyone recommending for beefing up their sway bar attachment points? I think Turner has some and Dinan too. Any others? Any recommendations as to what to purchase and best method of reinforcement? Write-ups or tips? > >Thanks in advance. > >Regards, > >Rich > >95 M3 - UUC Anti-Sway Bars > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > >

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