E36M3 #3094

Wednesday, April 23, 2003 12:36:35

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#1. Best Handling Car- Anyway, good enough handling. - from Zachary Eyler-Walker
#2. Re: [E36M3] 3.0 vs 3.2 cams - from NickG
#3. Re: [E36M3] Front bumper castrated: someone stole my (bumper) - from Jay W. Hudson
#4. Re: Front bumper castrated: someone stole my (bumper) nuts!!! - from Neil Maller
#5. Re: Umnitza V1 Mirror Kit - from Neil Maller
#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Front bumper castrated: someone stole my (bumper) nuts!!! - from Chester Wong
#7. RE: [E36M3] Best Handling Car- Anyway, good enough handling. - from Mel Silva
#8. RE: [E36M3] Front bumper castrated: someone stole my (bumper) - from Mel Silva
#9. cat shields buzzing - from Mdriver13@aol.com
#10. Re: [E36M3] cat shields buzzing - from Chester Wong
#11. Re: [E36M3] cat shields buzzing - from Andrej Dolenc

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#1. Best Handling Car- Anyway, good enough handling. - from Zachary Eyler-Walker
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 02:14:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Zachary Eyler-Walker <zwalker@cs.utk.edu> Subject: Best Handling Car- Anyway, good enough handling. On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, E36M3 wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:38:15 -0500 > From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Best Handling Car- Depends... > > This particular statement caught my eye; > > ----------------------- Original message -------------------------------- > ..., there was a medium speed right hand sweeper. I was falling behind so > I decided to pick up the pace a bit and went into the turn a bit hot. I > didn't back off because I thought I'd spin so I stayed on the gas and the > back end started sliding. With some steering correction and not letting off > the gas, I was able to recover and keep going. It was a beautiful slide (if > I do say so myself) but kinda stupid since there was a 150' drop to my right > and a cliff wall on the left. I slowed down but kept up with the group the > rest of the day. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the interests of objectivity, I decided to try my own experiment tonight while out with a friend. Thirty seconds or so after I said, "Eh, I'll be taking it pretty slow -- I don't know this road," we came upon an incredibly tight decreasing radius turn way too suddenly to get much braking done. Do my best there, get into the turn with 'station holding' power to keep the car planted, and try some CPR. Correct, pause, recover. The car gets well sideways, stops, and comes precisely back into line, no hint of snap to the other direction. Continue on the way, trying to do as I said I would, not as I did, for the rest of the trip. The car was about 30-ish degrees out of line, hard to say with the sharp curve and limited visibility. It was pretty bad -- by far the worst out of shape I've had it since I've owned it, including several track days and autocrosses. Basically, I have no experience with this kind of idiocy or getting out of it, but the car came through like a champ. I really don't know what more I could have asked of it. I would have stuffed into a rocky hill backwards. Beats a 150' drop, but... The eerie thing was the dead silence of the tires. Probably a consequence of lukewarm tires + slick, 40 degree asphalt. I'm still kicking myself a bit but this really was my first close-ish call in my car. Just have to take the experience to heart. Cheers, Zach

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#2. Re: [E36M3] 3.0 vs 3.2 cams - from NickG
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 08:21:50 -0400 From: "NickG" <nick@tech-nick.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 3.0 vs 3.2 cams Lift/duration specs are the same. The 3.2 cams are hollow (vs. solid for the 3.0 cams) to lessen the rotational mass. Head casting ports/flow are identical across all the 6-cyl of that generation (2.5, 2.8, 3.0, 3.2). Nick > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 00:17:13 EDT > From: GGray657@aol.com > Subject: 3.0 vs 3.2 cams > > > Anyone know if there is a difference in the camshafts between the two. I have > a 3.2 engine, if the 3.0 cams are hotter I can swap them. Or which head flows > the best? > > Gary

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Front bumper castrated: someone stole my (bumper) - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 05:59:14 -0700 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@cdsnet.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front bumper castrated: someone stole my (bumper) nuts!!! You can have a Clifford I8000 alarm installed. It's a dual-zone motion sensor alarm. The perimeter of the car is somewhat protected from loitering/movement. Not sure if it will cover the area in front of or behind the car, but definitely the sides. Check it out. There's also a tilt/motion sensor that can be added. It will set off the alarm if the car is rolled or jacked up. There's also a pager option that will page you if the alarm is activated. Jay At 08:56 PM 4/22/03 -0500, you wrote: >Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 21:46:42 EDT >From: Msebmwman@aol.com >Subject: Front bumper castrated: someone stole my (bumper) nuts!!! > >All; > >I think someone messed with my car at work. On the front I found the cover >over the receptacle for the tow hook loose. I looked closer, took the cover >off, and found the 2 nuts on either side of the tow hook receptacle gone!!! >Damn!! I moved the bumper easily up and down. They had also removed the 2 >nuts on the right (driver) side as well. I think someone tried to steal my >bumper while I was at work!!! The only thing keeping it from being pulled off >I guess was all the undertray and wheel liner crap. > >Anyway, I need to know quickly please (pretty please, please private mail me) >how many nuts hold up my front bumper (is it 4?) and also what size are they >(diameter and thread pitch metric vs. english etc.). > >And how can I get a remote control !@#$!@$# to blow the hands off the piece >of shi!@#!@ that is fuc!@#$!@# with my car. > >About 1 month ago I found that my rear valence (black piece that the exhaust >goes through) was loose on the back bumper and basically fell off and dragged >on my way home. I'm in a reasonably secure parking area but I'll park >somewhere else for a while. > >Thanks so much, >Marc >95M3 missing 4 nuts (bumper) > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > >

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#4. Re: Front bumper castrated: someone stole my (bumper) nuts!!! - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 08:17:45 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Front bumper castrated: someone stole my (bumper) nuts!!! on 4/23/03 12:16 AM, Msebmwman@aol.com wrote: > I think someone messed with my car at work. On the front I found the cover > over the receptacle for the tow hook loose. I looked closer, took the cover > off, and found the 2 nuts on either side of the tow hook receptacle gone!!! > Damn!! I moved the bumper easily up and down. They had also removed the 2 > nuts on the right (driver) side as well. I think someone tried to steal my > bumper while I was at work!!! The only thing keeping it from being pulled off > I guess was all the undertray and wheel liner crap. > > Anyway, I need to know quickly please (pretty please, please private mail me) > how many nuts hold up my front bumper (is it 4?) and also what size are they > (diameter and thread pitch metric vs. english etc.). There are two 10mm flange nuts each side for a total of four. The parts CD doesn't give the thread pitch for these, but flange nuts are conventionally of finer pitch than regular nuts. Standard 10mm pitch is M10x1.5, fine is M10x1.25. I'd go to the hardware store and buy four each of both, see what fits. Nuts are cheap. They may not have flange nuts, so use washers. Later you can get pick up the correct nuts at a dealer if you want. > And how can I get a remote control !@#$!@$# to blow the hands off the piece > of shi!@#!@ that is fuc!@#$!@# with my car. > > About 1 month ago I found that my rear valence (black piece that the exhaust > goes through) was loose on the back bumper and basically fell off and dragged > on my way home. I'm in a reasonably secure parking area but I'll park > somewhere else for a while. You may want to revisit your definition of "reasonably secure." An M3 bumper cover costs well over $400 new, and that's unpainted, so I guess it's at least as desirable as a wheel from a theft point of view. Neil 96 M3 - bumper firmly attached

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#5. Re: Umnitza V1 Mirror Kit - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 08:45:26 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Umnitza V1 Mirror Kit on 4/23/03 12:05 AM, Jim Powell at jsp98m3@apexcone.com wrote: > I make a concealed display box for the NSX and the E36 trick of hiding the > V1 in the third brake light is well known. For those with a factory wing > and no third brake light, I have made boxes to install that simulate the > third brake light, from time to time. That makes perfect sense, especially after looking at the installation Wes did: on 4/23/03 12:16 AM, "Wesley A. Nicolas" <wes@nicolas.org> wrote: > See http://www.vb.quik.com/jmciver/ for how to mount your V1 in your 3rd > brake light. I bought a wing with LED light so I could still be "legal" > with the 3rd brake light. Now if I just knew what the hell "Umnitza" means... Neil 96 M3

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Front bumper castrated: someone stole my (bumper) nuts!!! - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 07:18:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Front bumper castrated: someone stole my (bumper) nuts!!! --- Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> wrote: > You may want to revisit your definition of "reasonably secure." > > An M3 bumper cover costs well over $400 new, and that's unpainted, so I > guess it's at least as desirable as a wheel from a theft point of view. Just a bit less conspicuous to walk around with ;) Time to red-loctite those nuts! About car alarms, when was the last time you ever thought twice when you heard a car alarm go off outside? The pager option would be cool, I guess, assuming you want to self-defend your car. I think the best defense is BBB....Wayne will know what I mean ;) Chester =====

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Best Handling Car- Anyway, good enough handling. - from Mel Silva
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:21:13 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Best Handling Car- Anyway, good enough handling. Hey Zach, I was just watching this program on the Discovery Channel about adrenaline junkies. How's that heart rate? ---------------------------------------------------------------- The car was about 30-ish degrees out of line, hard to say with the sharp curve and limited visibility. It was pretty bad -- by far the worst out of shape I've had it since I've owned it, including several track days and autocrosses. Basically, I have no experience with this kind of idiocy or getting out of it, but the car came through like a champ. I really don't know what more I could have asked of it. I would have stuffed into a rocky hill backwards. Beats a 150' drop, but... The eerie thing was the dead silence of the tires. Probably a consequence of lukewarm tires + slick, 40 degree asphalt. I'm still kicking myself a bit but this really was my first close-ish call in my car. Just have to take the experience to heart. Cheers, Zach

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Front bumper castrated: someone stole my (bumper) - from Mel Silva
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:31:26 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front bumper castrated: someone stole my (bumper) I had a buddy that I worked with that had this Clifford alarm with the pager option. We used to set his alarm off on purpose, just to see him come running out of the building! It was classic, the look on his face of "I'm gonna kill whoever is messing with my car". He vowed to get even with us for messing with him, but it never materialized. In hindsight, it may have been just a wee bit juvenile on my part too, but what's going to do? Mel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- You can have a Clifford I8000 alarm installed. It's a dual-zone motion sensor alarm. The perimeter of the car is somewhat protected from loitering/movement. Not sure if it will cover the area in front of or behind the car, but definitely the sides. Check it out. There's also a tilt/motion sensor that can be added. It will set off the alarm if the car is rolled or jacked up. There's also a pager option that will page you if the alarm is activated. Jay

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#9. cat shields buzzing - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:08:23 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: cat shields buzzing Group, Any of you experience the shields that surround the cats becoming loose enough to create a loud buzzing sound (my wife says the car sounds like a Ford Escort), now that's bad ;-)) My mechanic said the cats are under warranty for eight years, so they should be replaced. Bad welds are the problem, so I'm told. Anyone have this problem, and got the cats replaced under warranty???? TIA, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion '97 & '00 BSP Champion '01 & '02

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#10. Re: [E36M3] cat shields buzzing - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:27:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] cat shields buzzing Yes, yes and no ;) ...well, I haven't asked the dealer yet... Chester --- Mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > Any of you experience the shields that surround the cats becoming loose > enough to create a loud buzzing sound (my wife says the car sounds like a > Ford Escort), now that's bad ;-)) My mechanic said the cats are under > warranty for eight years, so they should be replaced. Bad welds are the > problem, so I'm told. > > Anyone have this problem, and got the cats replaced under warranty???? =====

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#11. Re: [E36M3] cat shields buzzing - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:36:57 -0400 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] cat shields buzzing > Any of you experience the shields that surround the cats becoming loose > enough to create a loud buzzing sound (my wife says the car sounds like a > Ford Escort), now that's bad ;-)) My mechanic said the cats are under > warranty for eight years, so they should be replaced. Bad welds are the > problem, so I'm told. > Anyone have this problem, and got the cats replaced under warranty???? Yep, I had my cat's replaced under warranty because of the buzzing sound. They're under warranty for 8 years and 80K miles (I believe. Check the warranty booklet). I squeaked in under the mileage allowance. Dealer didn't give me a hard time about it at all, heard the rattling and replaced the cats. Car did REALLY well on emissions a few weeks after that :) Andrej '97 M3

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