E36M3 #3119

Wednesday, April 30, 2003 09:19:14

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Hard-wiring radar detector - from Scott McClung
#2. Re: [E36M3] 911, farm machinery, multi-response, long, semi-off - from Mark Dadgar
#3. Re: fuel starvation - AGAIN?! - from James Clay
#4. Re: Hard-wiring radar detector - from Bob Vaughn
#5. Re: [E36M3] 911, farm machinery, multi-response, long, semi-off - from john_stoj@excite.com
#6. Victory RTAB Tool - from Lew Becker
#7. Battery vent tube warning - from Juan Bruce
#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Hard-wiring radar detector - from Scott M
#9. 911 as farm machinery - from Dorffer, Rich
#10. Re: [E36M3] 911 as farm machinery - from R. Kao

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Hard-wiring radar detector - from Scott McClung
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:53:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Hard-wiring radar detector I tried wiring into the 2 wires going into the vanity light. However, the ground is switched to only on when the visor is down and the mirror open. I've heard this works on some other cars, but not on my '98. So I have a good +12V source, I just need to find a good ground. I would think the bolt to the sunroof motor is a ground, right? I'll check. BTW - I got my SR motor back in, but I moved the roof manually while it was out (that was dumb) so it's not aligned perfectly. When it closes it goes just past the normal close position like it does when it pops the back up. Is there any way to adjust it besides removing the motor and repositioning the roof by hand then re-installing the motor again?? Scott Mike Frank <mfrank28@comcast.net> wrote:Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:58:51 -0500 From: Mike Frank Subject: Re: Hard-wiring radar detector Neil, great job explaining the circuit. Couple of questions. Are you measuring +12.00V with the accessory power on AND the V1 connected/switched on (but no display)? Explain "The unit blinks then goes dark" in more detail. Does it make any noise? Does it complete the POST routine then go dark or just a quick flicker? Have you tried powering up the unit using the cig lighter adapter just to make sure it works? BTW, you might try measuring the voltage at your +12V supply with the map light(s) on (V1 off). This should tell you where you're at in the circuit. If not, then Neil must have explained the circuit incorrectly :) FYI, the V1 manual says it needs 11.0-16.0V. I think I wired into the sunroof motor supply for my V1. I can't remember for sure though, it's been a while. Mike Frank 97 M3 > -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:23:00 -0500 > From: Neil Maller > Subject: Re: Hard-wiring radar detector > > Virtually all the BMW accessories, including the map light, work by > supplying +12V (controlled or not by the ignition switch) directly to the > load. The on/off switch is on the ground side. > > So the circuit goes: > o +12V to first bulb terminal > o Bulb terminal one to bulb terminal two via filament > o Second bulb terminal to switch > o Switch to ground. > > With the lamp switch off, but accessory power on, a meter will read +12V > at > *either* bulb terminal. A good meter has very high resistance, and draws > so > little current that the voltage drop due to the filament resistance is > unmeasurable. So you can't tell which side is which without a visual > check. > > If your V1 has its positive feed connected to the *second* bulb terminal, > then the filament will serve as a series dropping resistor, reducing > voltage > to the point where the V1 won't work, even though the meter says you are > connected to +12V. > > Solution: Check your circuit, and make your connection to the correct side > of the bulb. One way to ID this is to follow the PCB trace back to where > it > should be fed by a violet/white wire. See Bentley page E-217. > > Or, it could be something else... > > Neil > 96 M3 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#2. Re: [E36M3] 911, farm machinery, multi-response, long, semi-off - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:01:19 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 911, farm machinery, multi-response, long, semi-off Zachary Eyler-Walker at zwalker@cs.utk.edu wrote: > In the 993 I drove, the headliner was sagging or detached at the back near > the rear window. This is one of those "993 things." Kind of like: - separating center vent surrounds - flaky seatbelt sensors - plastic-impeller water pumps the freewheel at 50K miles - plastic radiator necks that weaken and break at inopportune moments - collapsing rear toe bushings that tear the body shell Any of these sound familiar? :) Every car has its quirks. - Mark -- mark@pdc-racing.net

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#3. Re: fuel starvation - AGAIN?! - from James Clay
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:12:00 -0400 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: Re: fuel starvation - AGAIN?! All 96+ cars will have fuel starvation and all really need two pumps to fix it properly. We were asked to fix the problem on the wild European Car Turbo and found that it, and a couple since then, also have the updated tank in 95. 3.0L M3 was supposed to be all the same, 95 325 was the new tank. Easy ID - new tank holds 16 gallons, the old one holds about 13. James James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com Engineered BMW Performance 540.639.9648

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#4. Re: Hard-wiring radar detector - from Bob Vaughn
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:25:51 -0700 From: Bob Vaughn <Bob_Vaughn@Telestream.net> Subject: Re: Hard-wiring radar detector You also might try starting the car up to see if the voltage increases enough to power the unit up. -- Bob

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#5. Re:  [E36M3] 911, farm machinery, multi-response, long, semi-off - from john_stoj@excite.com
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:52:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "john_stoj@excite.com" <john_stoj@excite.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 911, farm machinery, multi-response, long, semi-off --- On Tue 04/29, Zachary Eyler-Walker < zwalker@cs.utk.edu > wrote: In the 993 I drove, the headliner was sagging or detached at the back near<br>the rear window. The whole thing basically had the air of a late 70s BMW<br>interior, or, to be more charitable, say, an e30 M3. It's nothing like<br>any other car from the 90s I've been in. The e36 is thoroughly modern.<br>Just about everything falls right to hand/foot and I just like the looks<br>of it. The 993 seems like a refugee from the 70s/80s. Which it is. Actually, it's a refugee from the 50s/60s. ;-) - John S. (Still don't know what how that 993 was treated for it to be in such poor shape. Old looking is one thing - worn looking is another.) _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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#6. Victory RTAB Tool - from Lew Becker
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:52:52 -0700 From: "Lew Becker" <lmbeckercfls@earthlink.net> Subject: Victory RTAB Tool I received Victory Tools' RTAB Tool today. The instructions for removing 96+ bushings state it is necessary to bend or cut off a metal tab on the bushing to use the tool. Has anyone done this; if so, what, if any, problems were encountered? (This aspect of the job sounds similar to using a sawz-all for the bushing replacement; something I sought to avoid with the RTAB tool). The instructions for installing a new bushing make no mention of the tab; am I correct in assuming that no alterations need be done to a new bushing for installation with the tool? Thanks. Lew Becker

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#7. Battery vent tube warning - from Juan Bruce
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:19:26 -0700 From: "Juan Bruce" <jbrucebmw@hotmail.com> Subject: Battery vent tube warning Yes the tube needs to be routed into the hole in the trunk floor to vent the battery. However, it should be noted that you may want to pull this tube out temporarily when at the track. Hard driving can actually force battery acid into the tube and drop it in the airflow below the car. Many E36 M3s have had the paint and plastic pieces on the back of the car eaten by droplets of battery acid when this happens. I had this happen 3 times before I realized what was going on. Juan Bruce BMW CCA GGC '95 M3 '85 M635CSi Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:35:48 -0400 >From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: Battery vent tube > >The vent tube is used to vent battery vapors to the atmosphere. If you >don't, the vapors could build up in the trunk, to an explosive quantity! > >Ron Buchalski >BMWCCA #76387 >1995 E36 M3 >1993 E34 525iT >1999 Mazda Miata > > >Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 12:22:10 -0700 > >From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> > >Subject: Battery vent tube > > > >After being away for 2 weeks, my 96 107k car failed to start. A quick >check > >with PepBoys revealed that the battery can't hold its full charge. So, I > >replaced it with a Sears Diehard. What is the function of the battery >vent > >tube? If my guess of it venting battery fluids during evaporation at > >different temperatures is true, then the tube needs to fit into the vent > >hole to dispose of the fluids. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks. > > > >Wen _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Hard-wiring radar detector - from Scott M
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 23:06:21 -0700 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Hard-wiring radar detector I found my problem - first I had the wires in the RJ-11 phone cord backwards. I connected those directly to power in the car. Second problem was the ground on my mirror light is switched - only gives a gnd when the visor is down and mirror open. So I moved the ground wire to a ground I found on the map light panel pcb - the trace just left of center towards the back. Seems to work fine now. Scott on 4/29/03 5:38 PM, Bob Vaughn at Bob_Vaughn@Telestream.net wrote: > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:25:51 -0700 > From: Bob Vaughn <Bob_Vaughn@Telestream.net> > Subject: Re: Hard-wiring radar detector > > You also might try starting the car up to see if the voltage > increases enough to power the unit up. > > -- Bob > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* >

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#9. 911 as farm machinery - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:20:42 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: 911 as farm machinery Mel says > > As far as the pedal thing, I felt the pedals awkward not because of their > mounting points, but that they were shifted to the left from center to > accommodate the left front wheel arch. Mel, Check those markings on your shoes again, the L should be on the left side and the R on the right side, did you possibly put your shoes on the wrong feet? If you hold your hands out in front of you and make an L with your index finger and thumb, the proper looking L is your left and the backwards one is your right. I am here to help. Regards, Rich - picking on Mel for a simple mistake, will surely get it back in spades...

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#10. Re: [E36M3] 911 as farm machinery - from R. Kao
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Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:12:57 -0400 From: "R. Kao" <bimmerphile@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 911 as farm machinery As much as I LOVE my E36 M3 (which is why I gave up on ordering an E46 M3 to make it into a track queen), the P cars are something special. Having regular access to a Boxster S and having driven all vintages of 911s (and a Ferrari F355 but that's another story...), I'd have to say the P cars have a purity that's lacking in the E36 or E46 M3, a purity that was present in the E30 M3. As one lister put it, it's like the controls of the P cars are hardwired to your body and the available driver feedback is immense. Their brakes and steering are stellar right out of the box (those damned red calipers...) and the sound of the flat six, especially the original air cooled ones, sends tingles down my spine. Then there is the weight issue, or lack thereof. Yes, the newer 911s have put on the pounds but not at the same rate as the M3s have from E30-E46 vintages and the newest 911 (996) GT3 shown at the NY Autoshow looks to be a superb track toy without some of the gimicks. So, would I give up my E36 M3 now? NO WAY! Would I like to ADD a P-car to our garage, especially a 993 C2S or C4S (those lovely rear hips...)? ABSOLUTELY! Roy '99 E36 M3/2 (seeking a good 993 mate to share garage one day...) _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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