E36M3 #3122

Thursday, May 01, 2003 11:19:11

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from Carey Probst
#2. Re: Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from M540@bellsouth.net
#3. Re: Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from Neil Maller
#4. Re: Three Month Report - from Neil Maller
#5. Re: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from Jason Knight
#6. Re: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from Guillermo Molina
#7. Re[2]: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from Andrej Dolenc
#8. Shifter/Tranny Mounts/Guibo Work... Drop Exhaust? - from morris.michael@tiax.biz
#9. Re: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from Robert Chay
#10. Three Month Report - from Dorffer, Rich
#11. RE: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from Carey Probst
#12. Need Advice on Heater Core Replacement - from Geof McLaughlin
#13. Re: [E36M3] Subframe Bushing Replacement - from Jim Bassett
#14. Re: [E36M3] Three Month Report - from Robert Chay

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from Carey Probst
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Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 05:56:49 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint I've found that Zymol Clear does an excellent job after a track weekend. Carey -----Original Message----- From: Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net [mailto:Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 11:59 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 23:56:40 -0400 From: <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: Removal of Tire Marks from Paint Has anyone had great success with a product or procedure on removing tire marks from paint of their M3 (as occurs at the track)? Regards, Stan Shaw Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net http://www.excell.net/ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#2. Re: Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from M540@bellsouth.net
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Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 08:11:15 -0400 From: <M540@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Removal of Tire Marks from Paint Stan, I've had great luck getting tire marks, road tar, and Florida "love bugs" off using "Bug and Tar Remover". I think the stuff I have is made by Turtle Wax and sold at Wal-Mart, but I'll bet just about any similar product would work. It doesn't appear to affect the paint at all (and is labeled as safe for it), though I think it removes wax in the area you apply it. Kevin Stan Shaw asked: >Has anyone had great success with a product or procedure on removing tire >marks from paint of their M3 (as occurs at the track)?

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#3. Re: Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 07:47:34 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Removal of Tire Marks from Paint on 5/1/03 1:38 AM, <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> wrote: > Has anyone had great success with a product or procedure on removing tire > marks from paint of their M3 (as occurs at the track)? "Bug and Tar Remover," available at any auto parts store. Neil 96 M3

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#4. Re: Three Month Report - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 07:51:59 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Three Month Report on 5/1/03 1:38 AM, someone wrote: > Tramelling in the expressway ruts is worse than any other car I've > driven The expression is "tramlining," as in the tendency to follow irregularities in the road as if they were tram lines or rails. Neil 96 M3

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from Jason Knight
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Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 06:15:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint Lift Off is the stuff: http://www.liftoffinc.com/home.asp Looks like Home Depot carries it(which I did not know). Jason --- Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net wrote: > Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 23:56:40 -0400 > From: <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> > Subject: Removal of Tire Marks from Paint > > > Has anyone had great success with a product or > procedure on removing tire marks > from paint of their M3 (as occurs at the track)? > > Regards, > Stan Shaw Excell.Net > Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) > 599-0421 > Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net > http://www.excell.net/ > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a > little temporary safety > deserve neither liberty nor safety." > - Benjamin Franklin > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from Guillermo Molina
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Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 09:32:34 -0400 From: "Guillermo Molina" <drwillb@msn.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint >Has anyone had great success with a product or procedure on removing tire >marks >from paint of their M3 (as occurs at the track)? >Goo-Gone (available at Target) works very well ... I'll second that. Works great. Just use a clean towel/rag and get it wet with the stuff. Bill Molina _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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#7. Re[2]: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 09:57:20 -0400 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re[2]: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint >>Has anyone had great success with a product or procedure on removing tire >>marks >>from paint of their M3 (as occurs at the track)? >>Goo-Gone (available at Target) works very well ... > I'll second that. Works great. Just use a clean towel/rag and get it wet > with the stuff. While I haven't used goo gone on my car, I've used it to clean just about everything else. Great stuff, it gets my vote as well. Andrej '97 M3

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#8. Shifter/Tranny Mounts/Guibo Work... Drop Exhaust? - from morris.michael@tiax.biz
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Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 11:33:30 -0400 From: morris.michael@tiax.biz Subject: Shifter/Tranny Mounts/Guibo Work... Drop Exhaust? List- I have some work planned on my M3 and a question for y'all: I will be installing a UUC SSK as well as replacing a few other bushings that are completely shot. I will also be installing some UUC Tranny Mounts w/Enforcers, and replacing the guibo. For those that have done these jobs before, will I need to drop my exhaust or will it be possible to work around? I need to know so I can have extra gaskets ready in the event that I have to drop the exhaust. Any tips for swapping out the Guibo and Tranny Mounts and installing the SSK? (Does the UUC SSK have well written instructions?) Thanks in advance, Mike Morris -Sloppy Shifter- * * * * * * * * * * Michael Morris Mechanical Engineer TIAX LLC 617.498.5165 (Phone) 617.498.7114 (Fax) morris.michael@tiax.biz TIAX LLC: Formerly Arthur D. Little's Technology & Innovation business, TIAX LLC is a privately held company that creates business opportunities and growth through science, technology, and innovation.

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from Robert Chay
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Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 11:57:06 -0400 From: Robert Chay <rclists@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint Stan, Usually after a track weekend, I'll wash the car and then use OilFlo on any marks left that the wash didn't take out. I bought OilFlo on Steve D's recommendation years ago (98?) and you really don't use much of it to get marks off. It's paint safe but it will take off wax. I use a little bit on a rag and rub the marks off pretty easily. -Bobby ----- Original Message ----- From: <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> > > > Has anyone had great success with a product or procedure on removing tire marks > from paint of their M3 (as occurs at the track)? > > Regards, > Stan Shaw Excell.Net > Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 > Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net http://www.excell.net/ > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety > deserve neither liberty nor safety." > - Benjamin Franklin >

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#10. Three Month Report - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 12:08:45 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Three Month Report > Bob writes > > 5. Tramlining in the expressway ruts is worse than any other car I've > driven, which I take to be a function of the width and profile of the tires. > Everybody get this? This is a function of the tires, their width and the alignment. It is more prominent on wider tires and the type of tires make all the difference. I didn't find that my MXX3s in 235/40/17 tramlining too badly. Also, my alignment was stock specs. > 6. Is everything going to be difficult on this car? First I had to alter my > floor > jack to get it under the car. When I did the brakes, all the rotors were > seized to the hubs, and then I became a (temporary) member of the Soft-Pedal > Club. (Repeated bleedings alternating with ABS braking were the answer in my > case.) The front caliper frame bolts were monsters. The wiper arms were > seized to the stems! These all yielded eventually to PB Blaster, time, > and impact, but I started to wonder if anything was going to go smoothly. > (Something did: > when I did the wheel bearing, the old hub slid off nice and easy.) Jacking an M3 without dramatics with nearly any jack without a jack pad, 2"x"6s or anything extra.... Here goes (I have posted this numerous times): First, jack up the car from the differential carrier bracket or from the differential itself (the diff and it's mounting points are stout enough on the E36 M3) and place the rear of the car on jack stands. I use Norco jack stands with custom machined aluminum adapters which mate to the jack points (Brett Anderson has the adaptors and is considering having them produced). I also have a set of AC stands which also work nicely. Now, with the rear of the car in the air, jack up the front at center of the front subframe by sliding the jack in from behind one of the front wheels (go in behind the front wheel at one of the doors angling towards the front/center of the car). There is plenty of clearance even with lowered cars. You won't be able to go in from the front since the car is tilted downward with the rear up in the air. Jack up the car and place on jack stands. Reverse the procedure to put it down. The car couldn't be any easier to jack up and support in this method. I use this method on my E36 M3 and my E30 325is. No messing around with wood 2 bys or ramps. I can use this method with both my AC jack and my Lincoln very easily. > 7. My gas mileage has been surprisingly good. My commute is a fairly easy 15 > miles (live in the city, work in the 'burbs - best way to commute!), but > still I'm pleased to be getting 24-25 mpg, about the same as my E30 (but > with premium gas). But I've been babying it somewhat as I get comfortable > with it, so this may not last. Umm, I get pretty good gas mileage (24 - 26) on the street/highway which is about the same as my E30 325is (which is more brick shaped and less power). I get about 8 - 10 mpg at the track :-) > 8. Suspension - besides the usual shocks, struts, RSM's, RTAB's, etc. > needing done soon, I've got a bunch of bad rubber boots in the front end > (both CA outer ball joint boots, swaybar link boots) The pieces themselves > are still OK, but clearly will not last with bad boots. Is this a common > occurrence? Is there any point in replacing boots only? You can replace the boots only or, if the parts are near the end of their life, wait until they are finished and then replace with new. I haven't had the best luck replacing the boots as well as they come stock but this may be just me. > 9. First track event is May 15 (Thursday nights at Putnam Park - anyone > else?) Need to go easy until I've done the suspension work. Are you going to Mid Ohio over the Memorial Day weekend? If so, what car are you bringing??? Best regards, Rich 95 M3 90 325is

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#11. RE: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint - from Carey Probst
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Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 12:14:25 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Removal of Tire Marks from Paint I've noticed this statement or similar in references to a number of products to remove the marks. The main reason I prefer Zymol Clear is it doesn't affect the wax, at least not Zymol. No affiliation, yada yada yada, just happy not have to wax the car often. Carey >It's paint safe but it will take off wax. I use a little bit on a >rag and rub the marks off pretty easily.

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#12. Need Advice on Heater Core Replacement - from Geof McLaughlin
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Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 21:42:56 -0400 From: Geof McLaughlin <gfmiiilist@attbi.com> Subject: Need Advice on Heater Core Replacement Well it looks as if my heater core is going as whenever I turn on the heat, it smells like coolant and the windshield mists up (as opposed to when it is on cool and there is no coolant smell or mist). The only thing that confuses me is that I have had coolant escape onto the ground from the engine bay near the firewall (I think). I think it is doubtful, but is there any chance that it is a problem with the heater valve and not the heater core? In any case, I was wondering if anyone can provide some advice on heater core replacement. BMW TIS and Bentley both state that it can be done without taking off the dashboard although I have heard otherwise (but I believe they were removing the entire system for racing). Any "been there, done that" advice? Do I need to replace anything other than the heater core? Thanks. Geof

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#13. Re: [E36M3] Subframe Bushing Replacement - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:42:37 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Subframe Bushing Replacement At 02:18 PM 4/29/03, Mark Dadgar wrote: > > This seems to be a fairly common occurrence seeing Jim providing > > his...errr..."assistance": > > http://www.tcdesignfab.com/mark-2.jpg > > > > :-) I'm always there to lend "encouragement", Rich :-) >Got the car out to the track for the first time yesterday. >Bimmerworld/Ground Control suspension all around. What a BLAST. Still have >a little tuning to do on the suspension, and the interior is, shall we say, >still a work in progress. But DAMN, that is one fun car! I'll second that. I'm looking forward to competing against Mark. In my limited driving of it yesterday, it's every bit as capable as my car. If I'm lucky I'll only be seeing him in my mirrors :-) Jim Bassett

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#14. Re: [E36M3] Three Month Report - from Robert Chay
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Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 12:15:17 -0400 From: Robert Chay <rclists@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Three Month Report This actually impressed me until I saw it wasn't a woman doing these repairs <g>. See comments below... -Bobby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Fluharty" <fluhar@worldnet.att.net> <really Bob> > > 4. Some idiosyncrasies have taken some getting used to: The lower seating > position, with the key ring resting on my right knee. (I may adjust, but so > far I give the edge in comfort to the E30, at least for the tall and > skinny). The big chunk of plastic between the front seats which still > doesn't provide a decent place for your cup or cellphone (but it helps if > you discard the ash tray insert). The windshield washer which wets your left > knee if you use it with the windows open. And, of course, the fact that all > parts have the M-surcharge. > You can buy a 96+ center console to get cup holders. Also, the sunglass holder (under the OBC) will hold any cell phone (unless you have one of those big ass phones from the 80's) The washer nozzles can be adjusted to point to your windshield rather than your knee. Parts for an M3 aren't that much more (if at all) than regular 3 series parts. > 5. Tramlining in the expressway ruts is worse than any other car I've > driven, which I take to be a function of the width and profile of the tires. > Everybody get this? > I get this with my A032's (235/40-17 all around) but not when I had 225's on the front. I'm currently running 225/40-18 fr, 255/35-18 rr and no tramlining. I do have an x-brace but I don't think that helps with this problem. > 6. Is everything going to be difficult on this car? First I had to alter my > floor > jack to get it under the car. When I did the brakes, all the rotors were > seized to the hubs, and then I became a (temporary) member of the Soft-Pedal > Club. (Repeated bleedings alternating with ABS braking were the answer in my > case.) The front caliper frame bolts were monsters. The wiper arms were > seized to the stems! These all yielded eventually to PB Blaster, time, > and impact, but I started to wonder if anything was going to go smoothly. > (Something did: > when I did the wheel bearing, the old hub slid off nice and easy.) > For an 8 yr old car, you should expect some seizing of parts that are metal to metal. Even the rotors on my car when it only had about 15k miles were seized to the hubs. Ditto with all the bolts. No probs with the wiper arms though. The jack plate from Steve D at Ultimate Garage is a must-have for anyone with an E36, IMO. > 8. Suspension - besides the usual shocks, struts, RSM's, RTAB's, etc. > needing done soon, I've got a bunch of bad rubber boots in the front end > (both CA outer ball joint boots, swaybar link boots) The pieces themselves > are still OK, but clearly will not last with bad boots. Is this a common > occurrence? Is there any point in replacing boots only? > I've had no problems with any boots yet <knock on wood> I would replace the boots if there are tears in them. > My experience driving M3's is limited to this car, so I'd be interested to > hear if anything I've mentioned seems outside normal limits. > Sounds like you've covered most of the common problems with an aging E36 M3. > Listers, you have been incredibly valuable. When I have asked for help or > info, the responses have been quick and useful. I've also done some browsing > in the archives to build a body of knowledge. The day may come when I can > actually contribute answers instead of questions. > > Bob Fluharty > 95 M3 > 87 325is > Cincinnati >

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