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#1. Coupe vs. Sedan - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 11:21:00 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Coupe vs. Sedan RDORFFER@CleIndians.com writes: <various dialog snipped> > Two door cars with rear seats are often called sedans (or saloon) as well as > four door cars. I think the primary class of racing in Germany that the > E30 M3 raced in was a "sedan" class was it not? Some use the term "coupe" > to refer to a two door car without a rear seat. > I remember we had this discussion years ago on the list. The difference between a coupe and sedan is whether or not there is a "B" pillar. No "B" pillar = coupe. A coupe can have a back seat. In fact, a coupe could be a 4 door car if it didn't have a "B" pillar. [There are cars like this - remember the "suicide door" Lincolns?] True coupes are rare since almost all cars have a "B" pillar. So if you want to be technically correct, we need to call our 2 door M3's "sedans". Anybody else remember this discussion? Did I remember right? Lowell Seaton '95 M3 - 2 door sedan Dallas, Texas
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Coupe vs. Sedan - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 11:48:36 -0400 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coupe vs. Sedan LoweSeaton LoweSeaton writes: > I remember we had this discussion years ago on the list. The difference > between a coupe and sedan is whether or not there is a "B" pillar. No "B" > pillar = coupe. A coupe can have a back seat. In fact, a coupe could be a 4 > door car if it didn't have a "B" pillar. [There are cars like this - > remember the "suicide door" Lincolns?] > True coupes are rare since almost all cars have a "B" pillar. So if you want > to be technically correct, we need to call our 2 door M3's "sedans". > Anybody else remember this discussion? Did I remember right? Yeah, I remember the same discussion, same definition for a coupe. Every now and then I see an old Benz that is a true coupe. As far as BMW's, wouldn't the 8 series qualify? Been a while since I've seen one.. Andrej '97 M3
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#3. E30 M3 vs. E36 M3 - from eevans@planetc.com
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Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 13:20:40 -0400 From: eevans@planetc.com Subject: E30 M3 vs. E36 M3 Jon, Tim makes a good point about 2 different cars. I would never attempt to try to really compare the two except in a forum like this. I've had 4 E30 M3s in various stages of modification depending on how much track time I could have. Now, I've also had several E36 M3s, in fact I just bought another '95 M3 (yes they are different from the '96 on M3s) more on that off line. Here's my impression in a nutshell. I don't like tracking the E36 nearly as much as the E30 because I've lost control of both at one time or another, but the BIG difference w/ the E30 was that I knew it was coming! I've scared myself twice in the E36 (completely stock suspension) when I've let the rear end loose and all of sudden I'm reading my license plate ;-). The E36 is the best daily driver I've ever owned and the E30 is the best track car. So there ya go. Jon if you'll contact me off line I'll be glad to get into more detail. I'm not sure what you said previously about the intended use of this car (daily driver w/ some track time mixed in?) That would be a huge deciding factor over the two. Evan President Smoky Mountain BMW CCA >Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 04:46:14 -0700 >From: "Tim Ng" <s14realm3@peachtreebmwcca.org> >Subject: E30 vs E36 M3 > >Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 09:49:59 -0700 >From: jon@maximumpc.com (Jon Phillips) >Subject: E30 M3 versus E36 - compare/contrast > >Hi Jon: some of you know me well enough to know that I am a BIG E30 M3 >lover. I am an original owner of my 91 M3 and tracked that car since 1992 >till 2000 then retired that car back to street use and build a 88 M3 IP >track car. Yes E30 M3s are expenive to own due to manitence. I am on my >second engine now. I love my S14s AND I love my S50 also. They are really >NOT the same cars. I don't like to compare the 2 b/c they are so different >animals. >All I can tell you IF you are thinking about doing the E30 M3 is that you >really need to get out to the track and get rides in as many as you can. >Talk to the owners and ask them their likes and dislikes. Most of the M3s >of any style used on the track are not stock anymore so you can get a feel >of what different suspension and shocks work and feel like. The cost of the >S14 verse is S50/52 is higher, BUT I also never heard of any S14 drivers >mis-shifting. Others have given some very excellent reasons for and against >the S14 and the S/M 50. Currently, I know of more guys doing the JP e36 >325i cars then E30 m3s. Its more economical to run a 325i.
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Helmets and height of helmet..which are "shorter" - from Robert Chay
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Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 13:45:42 -0400 From: Robert Chay <rclists@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Helmets and height of helmet..which are "shorter" I don't think the Bell helmets are any "taller" than any other brand. I also have a Bell M3 and it's a very light and comfortable helmet. I've also had a Shoei but I think my noggin likes the Bell better. I'm 6' and I have about the same room with my Bell as I did with my Shoei. Bell makes a M2 with a wider eye port if you wear glasses. Peripheral vision out of both helmets were great but I didn't need the wider eye port. I just bought a tinted visor which works fine even in indoor lighting (karting). I think all closed faced helmets will be a problem for people with claustrophobia. As far as fit, they do have pads to adjust the helmet to fit your head. (Lowell-maybe your helmet is a size too small?) But you can't recommend a brand because it fits one person perfectly. Best thing to do is to go to a retail shop and try on all the different helmets you can find. After about $200, you're paying for features like lighter weight, vents, etc. That's a personal choice as well. -Bobby ----- Original Message ----- From: <LoweSeaton@aol.com> > > Marc, > > I can't say I have a lot of experience with different helmets but I would say > that Bell helmets tend to be "tall". I have a Bell M3 and I just barely have > fit in my M3 with sunroof even though I am short. In fact, I would > discourage most people from using Bell helmets because I think they tend to > have very small eyeports and fit VERY snug. If you are at all > claustrophobic, Bell may not be for you. Try any helmet on to see how it > feels on your head. Headroom might be a secondary concern. Good luck! > > Lowell Seaton > '95 M3 > BMW CCA #131505 >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Helmets and height of helmet..which are "shorter" - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 11:06:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Helmets and height of helmet..which are "shorter" Well, you can recommend which brands to avoid! I would certainly avoid Bell helmets as their construction seems to be second rate. I know for mine (I think it was the AFX...or whichever the light one was a few years ago) has it's nose "squished" to the left or right. The helmet is not symmetrical. A friend I know recently, against my advice, bought a Bell and the interior foam padding was literally falling apart. The fact that I'm unhappy with the Bell was one of the sole reasons why I didn't consider getting a HANS device. Now that they make the HANS so that you can install it, I have no reservations about drilling into the helmet, attaching the HANS and when I upgrade to a better helmet, I can move the HANS with it. What do you all think about the HANS device? Anyone use one for driver schools? I was thinking about it. The regular one of the carbon fiber one? ;) I've heard nothing bad about Arai, Shoei, Bieffe, Simpson, Stand21, etc. Chester --- Robert Chay <rclists@comcast.net> wrote: > your head. (Lowell-maybe your helmet is a size too small?) But you can't > recommend a brand because it fits one person perfectly. Best thing to do is > to go to a retail shop and try on all the different helmets you can find. > After about $200, you're paying for features like lighter weight, vents, > etc. That's a personal choice as well. =====
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#6. Where to get Euro ellipsoid headlights? - from Alan Leung
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Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 13:52:03 -0500 From: "Alan Leung" <alanleung100@hotmail.com> Subject: Where to get Euro ellipsoid headlights? <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <DIV>Sorry for posting a non-technical question. I've searched the archive but there are too many matches to go thru. I have some idea on where to get the euro lights ... I'm just trying to figure out where you can get the best price. So far the best I've seen is $399/pair with appropriate adapters. I'm NOT looking for HID conversion or demon eyes. If any fellow digester manage to find better deals please pitch in! I really prefer the ones with adapters so that I don't have to start cutting wires. Thanks for the bandwidth.</DIV> <DIV>On a second note, what wattage H1 bulbs do you guys use in the euro low beams?</DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>MSN 8 helps <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMHENUS/2743">ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. </a> Get 2 months FREE*.</html>
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#7. Engine light/smog check - help! - from david tow
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Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 12:46:10 -0700 From: "david tow" <david_tow@hotmail.com> Subject: Engine light/smog check - help! My 95 M3 has gone over 90k miles and got a few issues for me to deal with. Firstly a smog check is due soon. Secondly the "check engine" light comes on and now stays on. Thirdly, thanks to Jim Bassett who helped me checked the fault code sometime ago, and he found out that the engine knock sensor for #4, 5 and 6 was not good. But the "check engine" light was only occasionally blinking then. Now it stays there. My questions are: Would this be caused by more than a knock sensor? Oxygen sensor too? Would I pass the smog without fixing this? Should I give it a try? How much does it cost to have both of these parts replaced, parts and labor? I suspect this is not an early Motronic system (1.3 or earlier) where you could check number of flashes with the key in the ON position to determine what's wrong with the car... _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Engine light/smog check - help! - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 12:52:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Engine light/smog check - help! Replacing a knock sensor is a bitch. Also, knock sensors are not likely to go bad. What has been known to happen is the connector interface corrodes...so maybe a cleaning with an electrical contact solution? HTH, Chester --- david tow <david_tow@hotmail.com> wrote: > My 95 M3 has gone over 90k miles and got a few issues for me to deal with. > Firstly a smog check is due soon. Secondly the "check engine" light comes > on and now stays on. Thirdly, thanks to Jim Bassett who helped me checked > the fault code sometime ago, and he found out that the engine knock sensor > for #4, 5 and 6 was not good. But the "check engine" light was only > occasionally blinking then. Now it stays there. > > My questions are: Would this be caused by more than a knock sensor? Oxygen > sensor too? Would I pass the smog without fixing this? Should I give it a > try? How much does it cost to have both of these parts replaced, parts and > labor? I suspect this is not an early Motronic system (1.3 or earlier) > where you could check number of flashes with the key in the ON position to > determine what's wrong with the car... =====
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Helmets and height of helmet..which are "shorter" - from Robert Chay
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Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 16:23:02 -0400 From: Robert Chay <rclists@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Helmets and height of helmet..which are "shorter" That's the first I've heard about Bell helmets being non-symmetrical. I've had no problems with the interior of my helmet falling apart. It's not the best quality but I have no complaints. I like the fit and the features and it's a light helmet so it doesn't strain my neck which is the main reason I bought the Bell M3. Rather than using a HANS device, have you thought about using a neck collar? It works kinda like a HANS device but it's much easier to put on and take off. -Bobby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Wong" <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > > Well, you can recommend which brands to avoid! I would certainly avoid Bell > helmets as their construction seems to be second rate. I know for mine (I > think it was the AFX...or whichever the light one was a few years ago) has it's > nose "squished" to the left or right. The helmet is not symmetrical. A friend > I know recently, against my advice, bought a Bell and the interior foam padding > was literally falling apart. The fact that I'm unhappy with the Bell was one > of the sole reasons why I didn't consider getting a HANS device. Now that they > make the HANS so that you can install it, I have no reservations about drilling > into the helmet, attaching the HANS and when I upgrade to a better helmet, I > can move the HANS with it. What do you all think about the HANS device? > Anyone use one for driver schools? I was thinking about it. The regular one > of the carbon fiber one? ;) > > I've heard nothing bad about Arai, Shoei, Bieffe, Simpson, Stand21, etc. > > Chester > > --- Robert Chay <rclists@comcast.net> wrote: > > your head. (Lowell-maybe your helmet is a size too small?) But you can't > > recommend a brand because it fits one person perfectly. Best thing to do is > > to go to a retail shop and try on all the different helmets you can find. > > After about $200, you're paying for features like lighter weight, vents, > > etc. That's a personal choice as well. > > > ===== > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Where to get Euro ellipsoid headlights? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 13:36:45 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Where to get Euro ellipsoid headlights? At 11:58 AM 5/2/03, Alan Leung wrote: >Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 13:52:03 -0500 From: "Alan Leung" Subject: Where to >get Euro ellipsoid headlights? >Sorry for posting a non-technical question. I've searched the archive but >there are too many matches to go thru. I have some idea on where to get >the euro lights ... I'm just trying to figure out where you can get the >best price. So far the best I've seen is $399/pair with appropriate >adapters. I'm NOT looking for HID conversion or demon eyes. If any fellow >digester manage to find better deals please pitch in! I really prefer the >ones with adapters so that I don't have to start cutting wires. I purchased mine from Eurosport (http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com/) several years ago. Came with all the adapters. You can also get from them the high-temp wiring and up-rated fuses if you plan on using 100W bilbs. >Thanks for the bandwidth. >On a second note, what wattage H1 bulbs do you guys use in the euro low beams? I run 100W in both high & low beams. Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP/A5