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#1. Re: [E36M3] first autox on Ecsta V700 and camber questions - from Chris Teague
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Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 21:23:47 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] first autox on Ecsta V700 and camber questions Bob, The BMW "camber" bolt is just a normal 12mm bolt. The factory bolt has a 14mm shoulder, with a snug fit. With the 12mm bolt, there is extra "slop". Use the extra slop to add or remove camber, then tighten the bolt, a lot. If it loostens and slips, your camber has changed. This really isn't a good method to get camber, since it's very hard to get an accurate setting, and it's too easy to have it slip. IIRC, the shims give you about 1 degree per 0.080". I have a pack of 0.028" AN washers. If you use home depot washers, the thickness varies a lot. Chris 97 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 23:26:49 EDT > From: Mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: first autox on Ecsta V700 and camber questions > > .... > I do need a little more camber in front, as I am only running -1.1 degrees > (saves my street tires). I'm looking to go to -1.5 degrees. My BMW mechanic > recently installed the camber bolt, but how do you use this? Also, how much > camber do you get when you add one standard shim washer at the base of the > strut? I forget? > > TIA, > > Bob Gill
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#2. Re: [E36M3] first autox on Ecsta V700 and camber questions - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 21:42:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] first autox on Ecsta V700 and camber questions There are a few ways you can achieve additional negative camber. I'd definitely recommend against using the 12mm bolt to get camber....that's just a poor bandaid. But, since you have a '97, you can swap strut bearings left to right for a drastic change or you can use '95M3 strut bearings. To fine tune, you can definitely use shims. HTH, Chester --- Mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > I do need a little more camber in front, as I am only running -1.1 degrees > (saves my street tires). I'm looking to go to -1.5 degrees. My BMW mechanic > > recently installed the camber bolt, but how do you use this? Also, how much > camber do you get when you add one standard shim washer at the base of the > strut? I forget? =====
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#3. detail shops in SF Bay Area - from Scott M
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Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 22:34:29 -0700 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: detail shops in SF Bay Area Specifically the South Bay? I'm looking for a shop to buff and wax my wife's dark green '99 540iT. I took it to a very reputable shop - Diablo - that quoted me $550. I was hoping to get by with maybe half that. I'll settle for 90% for half the price - this is not a show car, it doesn't have to be perfect, just in need of some cleanup after the 50K miles that the first owner put on. thx. Scott '98 M3 - white, thank GOD '99 540iT '01 Suburban '91 Corvette - black, but it's a track car, so who cares?
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#4. Re: [E36M3] first autox on Ecsta V700 and camber questions - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 05:28:01 -0700 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@cdsnet.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] first autox on Ecsta V700 and camber questions Bob- On my '97, I got ~1 degree with 0.1" flat washers. Just plain old flat washers. I measured them to get ones that were close to the same size. I bought the BMW "crash" bolts. But, after seeing them, decided not to use them. Too much likelyhood of changes to the alignment settings. BTW, if you keep your front toe close to zero, you don't have to worry about wear. I ran -2, with the washers for quite a while with minimal inside wear. Now I'm running -3, with swapped hats. Zero toe. Street and track. Jay At 10:27 PM 5/5/03 -0500, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 23:26:49 EDT >From: Mdriver13@aol.com >Subject: first autox on Ecsta V700 and camber questions > > >Hi Group, > >Well, first autox with the Kumho Ecsta V700 was interesting. Grip seemed >pretty good with the temperature only around 60 degrees. After 5 runs, I did >notice a "rolling back" of the surface rubber between the first and second >groove. I think this looks worse then it is. Rear tires, look normal. I >usually rotate my tires front to back for each autox. Just a note, three of >my tires are the K6A compound, and one is the newer K8A compound (this one >was on back, and did appear in the best shape). I called TireRack and they >are looking into the mix of rubber they sent me back in March. I'm trying to >get them to exchange one of the K6A for a K8A. We'll see. > >I do need a little more camber in front, as I am only running -1.1 degrees >(saves my street tires). I'm looking to go to -1.5 degrees. My BMW mechanic >recently installed the camber bolt, but how do you use this? Also, how much >camber do you get when you add one standard shim washer at the base of the >strut? I forget? > >TIA, > >Bob Gill >97 ///M3 coupe >Philly Region SCCA >AS Champion '97 & '00 >BSP Champion '01 & '02 > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > >
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#5. RE: first autox on Ecsta V700 and camber questions - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:49:37 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: first autox on Ecsta V700 and camber questions Bob, I am running 4mm shims at the bottom of the strut. Camber changed from -1.1 to -2.3 on both ends. Street-tire wear is great and on the track, the car seems somewhat neutral. Korman sells this kit, however Neil Maller sent me the bolts and shims. I don't have the exact part number, but you can make your own kit for around $5. Note that I needed 10 mm spacers and longer nuts (Rogue Eng.) since 245/45 tire on 8*17 wheel would rub on the strut. Your camber changes would depend on your strut/spring combo as well. I am running stock springs with Bilsteins and the car sits higher than stock. If you car is lower, you will experience more -ive camber. Hope this helps. Ahmad Lutfeali 98 M3/2 Atlanta I do need a little more camber in front, as I am only running -1.1 degrees (saves my street tires). I'm looking to go to -1.5 degrees. My BMW mechanic recently installed the camber bolt, but how do you use this? Also, how much camber do you get when you add one standard shim washer at the base of the strut? I forget? TIA, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion '97 & '00 BSP Champion '01 & '02
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#6. Re: [E36M3] detail shops in SF Bay Area - from Rex Tener
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Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 06:54:17 -0700 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] detail shops in SF Bay Area At 12:37 AM 5/6/2003 -0500, Scott M wrote: >Specifically the South Bay? > >I'm looking for a shop to buff and wax my wife's dark green '99 540iT. Hi Scott, My co-driver used Thorpe Auto Detailing in Campbell for his Explorer and M Coupe and I was very impressed with their work. I do my own detailing at home, but if I didn't, I would use Thorpe. <http://yp.yahoo.com/py/ypMap.py?Pyt=Typ&tuid=13208139&ck=2017149688&tab=B2C&tcat=95864917&city=Campbell&state=CA&country=us&msa=7400&slt=37.287109&sln=-121.948647&cs=4&stat=:pos:0:regular:regT:1:fbT:0> -- Rex Tener rex_tener@yahoo.com
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#7. Re: [E36M3] RE: ECSTA V700 wear - fyi - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 12:57:46 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: ECSTA V700 wear - fyi In a message dated 5/2/03 11:02:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, drwillb@msn.com writes: > The current Grass Roots Motorsports (p.177) mentions that their tire test > last year was run with K6A compound V700's . Earlier this year there was a > change to K8A compound, which is supposed to be harder. > Group, fyi...Well, Noah at the TireRack got back to me today with the following news. Kumho told him the K8A number is the old compound, and the new compound is the K6A. They may send me a new tire, if the DOT # shows it was manufactured with the "old" compound. More details as they develop. Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion '97 & '00 BSP Champion '01 & '02
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#8. Borla track pipe has been sold... - from DocWyte
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 10:11:21 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Borla track pipe has been sold... Thanks for the interest guys, the track pipe has been sold. -josh ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com
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#9. cost to replace control arms? - from dbm7w@cavtel.net
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Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 13:35:33 -0400 From: dbm7w@cavtel.net Subject: cost to replace control arms? Can anybody tell me what would be a typical charge for replacing both lower control arms and bushings on the front of a 95M3? I was just given $848 as an estimate. This seemed high. -- Dan McDaniel dbm7w@cavtel.net Key fingerprint = 1633 A9A1 97BD E335 CFB8 4E70 0E15 589C DE73 016B
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Borla track pipe has been sold... - from e36m3digest@jedinite.com
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Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 12:41:53 -0500 From: "e36m3digest@jedinite.com" <e36m3digest@jedinite.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Borla track pipe has been sold... Borla Track Pipe for sale, $600 obo. (just kidding) <- happy new owner of DocWyte's pipe ~jedinite http://bmw.jedinite.com DocWyte wrote: > Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 10:11:21 -0700 (PDT) > From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> > Subject: Borla track pipe has been sold... > > Thanks for the interest guys, the track pipe has been > sold. > > -josh > > ===== >