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#1. Subject: RE: [E36M3] PF90s and rain, track pressures for S-O3s - from GGeick6055@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 21:00:37 EDT From: GGeick6055@aol.com Subject: Subject: RE: [E36M3] PF90s and rain, track pressures for S-O3s I don't remember 90s being much of a problem with the dust issue in the wet but 97s are. Wax before you go, wash the wheels and car that day if possible, a pure cleaner (Mother's cleaner) worked better then the 3M cleaner/glaze for me and Turtle wax bug/tar remover also worked well. Unfortunately the 97s will leave a "sandy" feeling on the finish. Hope for rain with those tires, they are fantastic in it! I ran at WGI last fall when the hurricane was coming thru, most fun day all year. Their balance and feel in the wet is just like the dry just at a little lower limits. I run 225/50 16s and 37-38 front and 35 rear in rain and a couple pounds less in the dry. Gordon Geick
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#2. Re: [E36M3] PF90s and rain, track pressures for S-O3s - from twisty M3
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Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 19:20:57 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] PF90s and rain, track pressures for S-O3s >From: David Ngo <rudngo@yahoo.com> > > Does anyone >have experience with the dust from PF90s after it's >gotten wet? > I've used PF97s but not PF90s, so I'll refrain from comment on this. > >Also, as this is my first DE, > Even with your previous autox experience, I'm not sure you'd really need to use PF90s at your first DE. If it's a BMW event, there's no doubt you'd have to start in a slower group where you may not be able to take advantage of them anyway. If they're already on the car, however, nevermind. ;) > >what pressures should I >be running with my 245/40-17 S-O3s all around? I was >prepared to go with my autox pressures (42F, 38R cold) >but figured that I might want to go with a bit less >for the track as the tires will get hotter than in >autox. > First off, as long as you stay off any oil slicks, those tires are great in the rain, so have fun. As for pressures, I've never run the S03s *on track* in the rain, so I haven't had a chance to play with the pressures in that situation. In the dry, however, I've found that the S03s are happiest when at 36-37(max!) psi HOT. At 38 or more, the get greasy fast and make you wonder why they're so popular. At 36 hot, they're pretty great for a street tire. I've run 36 front 34-35 rear (hot measurements RIGHT after a session) and that feels surprisingly good for a street tire. Disclaimer: My car does have more than 3 degrees of negative camber in front as well as a semi-stiff suspension (H&R Sport, Bilstein, RD Sport sways), so that might be why my car is sensitive to high pressures on SO3s. Although, for my Toyo RA1s I do get great results from the same pressures that most people run. HTH, Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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#3. Shakey mirror? - from Robert Puertas
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Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 21:09:07 -0700 From: "Robert Puertas" <Puertas@cox.net> Subject: Shakey mirror? Hey group, Is there a quick fix for a shakey rear-view mirror? Worst case, they can't be very expensive, right? :-) Thanks, Robert
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#4. LTW flywheel noise; anyone using Redline Shockproof oil? - from John B
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 02:36:35 -0700 (PDT) From: John B <john0990@yahoo.com> Subject: LTW flywheel noise; anyone using Redline Shockproof oil? A lister once reported significant reduction in the idle noise (chatter) his lightweight flywheel made by using Redline Heavy Shockproof Gear Oil in the tranny. Has anyone else had a similar experience with changing to a particular brand of tranny fluid to reduce the noise? I currently have the Turner ltw flywheel, stock clutch, Jim C idle bumped chip, with Redline D4-ATF in the tranny. John '95 M3 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com
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#5. Question for the people that have installed VDO Oil temp and pres - from Chamberlain, Jesse
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 08:30:39 -0400 From: "Chamberlain, Jesse" <jchamb06@harris.com> Subject: Question for the people that have installed VDO Oil temp and pres sure gauges.. I have a quick question for those that have installed the Easternmotorworks gauge kit or installed your own custom gauge kit. In regards to the VDO Oil pressure gauge, what is the PSI reading you get when you first turn on your car (a cold start), after your car is warm at idle, and what is the max reading and nominal reading you get while driving? When I first start my car (cold start), my oil pressure is at about 25psi and goes upto about 50-60ish when Im driving the car hard. After my car is warmed up (been driving for about 20 mintues or so) and I stop, the pressure seems to go pretty close to zero, but not all the way to zero. I was wondering if this was normal operation. Also, similar question for the VDO Oil temp gauge. How long does it take the oil temp to start increasing on the gauge? Whats the normal/nominal operating temp for the oil in our cars? Obviously if your tracking your car, it will be alot higher, but I'm looking for temp readings from regular every day driving, stop and go driving and maybe some highway driving temps? Yesterday while driving my car pretty hard (reving to about 6K) it was getting close to about 200 F. Is this normal? Since I created my own oil-distribution block for the stock oil port on the filter canister, I want to make sure my oil gauges are working correctly. A hint for anyone putting a Oil-block in, make sure everything is very TIGHT! First time I installed my block, wasnt as tight as it should of been, and spilled about a quart of oil on the ground! :) If anyeones interested, Here is a link to a bunch of pics of two different oil blocks ive made.
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#6. RE: Question for the people that have installed VDO Oil temp and - from Chamberlain, Jesse
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 08:31:30 -0400 From: "Chamberlain, Jesse" <jchamb06@harris.com> Subject: RE: Question for the people that have installed VDO Oil temp and pressure gauges.. Sorry, Hit the send button by accident: http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=94123 Thanks for the help! Jesse C. -----Original Message----- From: Chamberlain, Jesse Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 8:31 AM To: 'E36M3' Subject: Question for the people that have installed VDO Oil temp and pressure gauges.. I have a quick question for those that have installed the Easternmotorworks gauge kit or installed your own custom gauge kit. In regards to the VDO Oil pressure gauge, what is the PSI reading you get when you first turn on your car (a cold start), after your car is warm at idle, and what is the max reading and nominal reading you get while driving? When I first start my car (cold start), my oil pressure is at about 25psi and goes upto about 50-60ish when Im driving the car hard. After my car is warmed up (been driving for about 20 mintues or so) and I stop, the pressure seems to go pretty close to zero, but not all the way to zero. I was wondering if this was normal operation. Also, similar question for the VDO Oil temp gauge. How long does it take the oil temp to start increasing on the gauge? Whats the normal/nominal operating temp for the oil in our cars? Obviously if your tracking your car, it will be alot higher, but I'm looking for temp readings from regular every day driving, stop and go driving and maybe some highway driving temps? Yesterday while driving my car pretty hard (reving to about 6K) it was getting close to about 200 F. Is this normal? Since I created my own oil-distribution block for the stock oil port on the filter canister, I want to make sure my oil gauges are working correctly. A hint for anyone putting a Oil-block in, make sure everything is very TIGHT! First time I installed my block, wasnt as tight as it should of been, and spilled about a quart of oil on the ground! :) If anyeones interested, Here is a link to a bunch of pics of two different oil blocks ive made.
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#7. RE: [E36M3] RE: Question for the people that have installed VDO Oil temp and - from Carey Probst
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 09:32:12 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Question for the people that have installed VDO Oil temp and >I have a quick question for those that have installed the Easternmotorworks >gauge kit or installed your own custom gauge kit. In regards to the VDO Oil >pressure gauge, what is the PSI reading you get when you first turn on your car >(a cold start), after your car is warm at idle, and what is the max reading and >nominal reading you get while driving? First starting: ~60 Running before full temp: ~65 After full temp around 3k rpm: ~50 Idle after full temp: ~25 Using Lubro-Moly 0-40 over winter, will switch to 10-40 for summer. >When I first start my car (cold start), my oil pressure is at about 25psi and >goes upto about 50-60ish when Im driving the car hard. After my car is warmed >up (been driving for about 20 mintues or so) and I stop, the pressure seems to >go pretty close to zero, but not all the way to zero. I was wondering if this >was normal operation. Seems a little low for idle but gauges vary somewhat. >Also, similar question for the VDO Oil temp gauge. How long does it take the >oil temp to start increasing on the gauge? Whats the normal/nominal operating >temp for the oil in our cars? Obviously if your tracking your car, it will be >alot higher, but I'm looking for temp readings from regular every day driving, >stop and go driving and maybe some highway driving temps? Yesterday while >driving my car pretty hard (reving to about 6K) it was getting close to about >200 F. Is this normal? First reading when starting: Forever, must take 5-10 mins to reach full temp. esp. in winter in northern NY. Normal everyday driving: under 200 Track: 200+ depending on outside temp. I guess theoretically it should not get higher than the water temp. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, '86 325e w/i cam BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters JC CAIed and Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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#8. RE: [E36M3] RE: Question for the people that have installed VDO O - from Chamberlain, Jesse
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 09:50:46 -0400 From: "Chamberlain, Jesse" <jchamb06@harris.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Question for the people that have installed VDO O il temp and Would using a lighter oil make a difference in the oil pressure? I'm currently using 10-30 in my engine, and I usually switch over to 10-40 for the summer time. I will have to closely look at the pressure gauge while I'm stopped and at idle and see what the oil pressure really is. My PSI while running before and after full temp matches yours, but the idle PSI doesn't. Also, since I have a 325i, would the S50 oil pressure be different than in an M50tu engine? Thanks. Jesse C. -----Original Message----- From: Carey Probst [mailto:hcprobst@alum.mit.edu] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 9:32 AM To: Chamberlain, Jesse; E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Question for the people that have installed VDO Oil temp and >I have a quick question for those that have installed the Easternmotorworks >gauge kit or installed your own custom gauge kit. In regards to the VDO Oil >pressure gauge, what is the PSI reading you get when you first turn on your car >(a cold start), after your car is warm at idle, and what is the max reading and >nominal reading you get while driving? First starting: ~60 Running before full temp: ~65 After full temp around 3k rpm: ~50 Idle after full temp: ~25 Using Lubro-Moly 0-40 over winter, will switch to 10-40 for summer. >When I first start my car (cold start), my oil pressure is at about 25psi and >goes upto about 50-60ish when Im driving the car hard. After my car is warmed >up (been driving for about 20 mintues or so) and I stop, the pressure seems to >go pretty close to zero, but not all the way to zero. I was wondering if this >was normal operation. Seems a little low for idle but gauges vary somewhat. >Also, similar question for the VDO Oil temp gauge. How long does it take the >oil temp to start increasing on the gauge? Whats the normal/nominal operating >temp for the oil in our cars? Obviously if your tracking your car, it will be >alot higher, but I'm looking for temp readings from regular every day driving, >stop and go driving and maybe some highway driving temps? Yesterday while >driving my car pretty hard (reving to about 6K) it was getting close to about >200 F. Is this normal? First reading when starting: Forever, must take 5-10 mins to reach full temp. esp. in winter in northern NY. Normal everyday driving: under 200 Track: 200+ depending on outside temp. I guess theoretically it should not get higher than the water temp. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, '86 325e w/i cam BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters JC CAIed and Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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#9. RE: [E36M3] RE: Question for the people that have installed VDO O - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 07:02:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Question for the people that have installed VDO O Yes. Mobil 10W30 in my car makes the oil pressure go to below 20 psi (almost like 10) on idle at operating temp. Mobil 15W50, OTOH, gives about 22 ish psi at idle at temp. Chester --- "Chamberlain, Jesse" <jchamb06@harris.com> wrote: > Would using a lighter oil make a difference in the oil pressure? I'm > currently > using 10-30 in my engine, and I usually switch over to 10-40 for the summer > time. =====
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#10. Tramlining and correct air pressure - from Paul Smith
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 09:46:16 -0500 From: Paul Smith <pauls@ontario.com> Subject: Tramlining and correct air pressure I have to ask, what is the 'correct' air pressure if running Michelin Pilot Sport in the 225/45-17 and 245/40-17 staggered configuration. thanks Paul Smith 98M3/4/5sp -------------------- 1 -------------------- Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 00:37:54 EDT From: CurtAinSB@aol.com Subject: Tramlining ....I found that our cars are EXTREMELY sensitive to differences in air pressure in the tires. This makes sense, because they have such a low profile that there is very little sidewall "give". When I set the pressures correctly with an accurate, dial gauge, the tramlining went away. Curt Allen