E36M3 #3141

Friday, May 09, 2003 23:13:12

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Tramlining and correct air pressure - from Chester Wong
#2. tramlining - from Jay Johnson
#3. Re: PF-90s in Rain, etc - from marc@plante.com
#4. VDO oil pressure gauges - from Msebmwman@aol.com
#5. RE: [E36M3] VDO oil pressure gauges - from Carey Probst
#6. Tire pressures and koni settings - from DocWyte
#7. Re: [E36M3] Tire pressures and koni settings - from Mdriver13@aol.com
#8. E46 Koni Fitment Question - from Philip
#9. Seatbelt "button" installation - from Heckendorf, David
#10. brake light failure - from russell

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Tramlining  and correct air pressure - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 08:00:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Tramlining and correct air pressure When I had those, I ran 38/36 cold in order to avoid having the fronts cup. Chester --- Paul Smith <pauls@ontario.com> wrote: > Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 09:46:16 -0500 > From: Paul Smith <pauls@ontario.com> > Subject: Tramlining and correct air pressure > > I have to ask, what is the 'correct' air pressure if running Michelin Pilot > Sport in the 225/45-17 and 245/40-17 staggered configuration. =====

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#2. tramlining - from Jay Johnson
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 08:24:01 -0700 From: Jay Johnson <jay@pactitle.com> Subject: tramlining I think the reason it was never discussed is that we didn't experience it with MXX3's. With the new pilot sports I feel it all the time with proper air pressure. Bring back the MXX3's Jay '95 M3 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 00:37:54 EDT From: CurtAinSB@aol.com Subject: Tramlining There has been some discussion about tramlining recently, but I've never heard anyone mention this. My '95 on MXX3's never tramlined much at all, but suddenly it seemed to want to follow the tiniest creases in even smooth roads. I found that our cars are EXTREMELY sensitive to differences in air pressure in the tires. This makes sense, because they have such a low profile that there is very little sidewall "give". When I set the pressures correctly with an accurate, dial gauge, the tramlining went away. Curt Allen

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#3. Re: PF-90s in Rain, etc - from marc@plante.com
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Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 08:48:11 -0700 (PDT) From: marc@plante.com Subject: Re: <Misc>PF-90s in Rain, etc As someone who's spent a little time lapping Summit Point, I'd say that you can probably skip the PF-90s if it's going to be wet this weekend. Summit's pavement is incredibly slick in the wet (at least compared to Watkins Glen and Mid Ohio...other tracks I've driven in the wet) so speeds will be low, especially if you're in the novice (even intermediate) run group conga-line. You'll still learn a lot at lower speeds. If you end up having a couple dry sessions on stock pads, you'll still have enough stopping power (even for 1 and 5 at Summit). You'll just eat more pad than you would if you were on race pads. You'll also find the street pads easier to modulate than the race pads. As you speculated Tires would be half a dozen pounds lower than in an auto-X since the track driving will heat them up a lot more. 37 lbs or so (Warmish at the track...post commute but pre-track session vs garage-cold) would probably be a good starting point for a street tire. I don't have any experience with the S-03s to comment more specifically on best pressures, but that's worked with the Toyo and Yokohama street tires I've used. Marc Plante E36 325i, 212k Vienna, VA Marc Plante marc@plante.com

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#4. VDO oil pressure gauges - from Msebmwman@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 12:11:10 -0400 From: Msebmwman@aol.com Subject: VDO oil pressure gauges When comparing values from gauges make sure you are comparing the same make of gauge as well as gauges with the same range if you are looking at small numbers. The ECIS gauge that is standard in their package I think is a 0-150 or 0-180 gauge or something. Others have replaced with a more rational alternative of 0-80 gauge so that nominal pressures have the needle nearer the middle of the gauge and small numbers are easier to perceive when glancing at them on the track. I'm sure that sensors have a lot to do with that too. So, one person's perceived 60 on the broad range gauge might be another persons 45 on the short range gauge. But, any pressure is better than 0 I suppose. I have a 0-80 gauge in my car and on track it is around 60-65 but also varies with RPM. Idling is around 25-30 depending on first start or cold temps. Oil is 10/40 redline. DRiving is southern california. Regards, Marc M3LTW has gauges M3 red gaugeless..

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#5. RE: [E36M3] VDO oil pressure gauges - from Carey Probst
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 12:44:42 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] VDO oil pressure gauges Agreed. The other thing to remember is that the M3 has a 59 lb. release valve so anything over 60 on the gauge is either a slight inaccuracy of either the release or the gauge. A large value over 60 probably indicates problems. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, '86 325e w/i cam BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters JC CAIed and Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. -----Original Message----- From: Msebmwman@aol.com [mailto:Msebmwman@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:23 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] VDO oil pressure gauges Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 12:11:10 -0400 From: Msebmwman@aol.com Subject: VDO oil pressure gauges When comparing values from gauges make sure you are comparing the same make of gauge as well as gauges with the same range if you are looking at small numbers. The ECIS gauge that is standard in their package I think is a 0-150 or 0-180 gauge or something. Others have replaced with a more rational alternative of 0-80 gauge so that nominal pressures have the needle nearer the middle of the gauge and small numbers are easier to perceive when glancing at them on the track. I'm sure that sensors have a lot to do with that too. So, one person's perceived 60 on the broad range gauge might be another persons 45 on the short range gauge. But, any pressure is better than 0 I suppose. I have a 0-80 gauge in my car and on track it is around 60-65 but also varies with RPM. Idling is around 25-30 depending on first start or cold temps. Oil is 10/40 redline. DRiving is southern california. Regards, Marc M3LTW has gauges M3 red gaugeless.. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#6. Tire pressures and koni settings - from DocWyte
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 11:53:23 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Tire pressures and koni settings Hi, First auto-x of the season tomorrow. I'm running my '95 M3, stock springs, koni sa's, kumho victoracers. Where should I start for shock settings and tire pressures? Starting cold pressure and desired hot pressure? Thanks! -josh ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Tire pressures and koni settings - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 17:52:53 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Tire pressures and koni settings Josh, I have the same set-up including tires last year, except I have the DA's in the rear. Bob Tunnell and Jim L. had me set the Koni's at 1.0 -1.5 turns from soft in the front and 1.5 - 2.0 turns from soft in the rear. I like one turn in front and two turns in the rear. The Victoracers, front/rear cold 36psi/32psi, hot maybe 38/34 or bleed them back to 36/32psi if they felt real grippy. Ran with the Ecsta V700's last weekend, they felt really good. Best of luck, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion '97 & '00 BSP Champion '01 & '02

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#8. E46 Koni Fitment Question - from Philip
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 15:40:41 -0700 From: "Philip" <estorilphil@highstream.net> Subject: E46 Koni Fitment Question Hello List, A friend is selling his four Dinan (Koni) shocks from his E46 330Ci. = Which got me wondering: would these fit my 1999 M3/2? TIA... :-) Phil 99 M3/2

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#9. Seatbelt "button" installation - from Heckendorf, David
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 18:29:52 -0600 From: "Heckendorf, David" <David_Heckendorf@cable.comcast.com> Subject: Seatbelt "button" installation The Driver's seatbelt on the the Mrs's E46 has lost it's seatbelt "button" (the plastic bit that punches through the belt so that the buckle can't slide all the way down to the floor when the belt it re-wound). I've already gone to the dealer a procured the two pieces; but, they aren't a "snap-fit" as I assumed they would be... It would appear as though I'm going to need to either cut/mash the point off or cut/melt the point off... Has any body been there/done that?? TIA!, Dave

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#10. brake light failure - from russell
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Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 21:10:14 -0700 (PDT) From: russell <driver8m3@yahoo.com> Subject: brake light failure my drivers side brake light is out. is that a simple fix? havent tried to look back there yet. thanks, russell 99 ===== "democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."-ben franklin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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