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#1. FS/FE: Four M-Contours 7.5 x 17s - from Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net
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Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 13:45:14 -0400 From: <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: FS/FE: Four M-Contours 7.5 x 17s I would like to get a set of tracks wheels for my '96 M3, rather than use the 7.5 x 17 M-Contours I have. I would be willing to trade for a set of track wheels, ideally in 8.5" widths, but will consider alternatives. If anyone is interested (or knows someone who might be), please let me know! Regards, Stan Shaw Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net http://www.excell.net/ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
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#2. Track wheels for sale... - from Kit Wetzler
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Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 11:11:03 -0700 From: Kit Wetzler <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: Track wheels for sale... Ok, sorry for the for sale ad, but another set of track wheels for sale. 17x8 TSW trophies in 38 mm offset. They are straight but could use a good scrubbing, no real scratches probably only been used about 5 times. Since I don't want a whole lot for them, I'd really like a local to Santa Clara, CA buyer. Probably like $300 for them or so. -kit
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#3. Rear subframe bolt question - from KLchmn@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 14:19:44 EDT From: KLchmn@aol.com Subject: Rear subframe bolt question Gruppe, Is there any way to access the front two rear subframe bolts from the inside of the car? One of mine is spinning and I can't get the nut off... <sigh> Thanks for your assistance. Kirk Lachman '95 M3 #21 I-stock
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: Track Wheels - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 11:33:55 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Track Wheels Michael at 95m3ltw@comcast.net wrote: > You are right on both accounts, my example though was a few talented > students who were at the a or b level from the beginning. I have yet to meet one of those. :) > And MILEAGE plays a huge part in how bad a tire chunks. Any tire with less > than 2500 miles has a much greater risk of chunking, regardless of driving > style vs a tire with 50-75% tread left on it. But bad driving can ruin a tire > quickly. Yup, agreed. But I think the more common case is the student who's experiencing massive understeer in the first phase of the corner and just grinds the car into the track with the throttle instead of backing off a bit and letting the front tires bite. How many people here have ever done that? <raises hand to indicate standing account at Tire Rack> > Stock brakes on a M3 are pretty amazing. And how many students, > instructors and racers do we know that abuse track pads too? Haha. I > have tracked, raced etc both of M3s with no ducting, only using super > blue and Hawk pads, with no fade. I've found that good ducting (ie Bimmerworld kit) roughly doubles the life of my brake pads. Pays for itself pretty quick. > I think every since months we go thru a brake pad issue where people are > experiencing fade unless they have Big Reds, ducting etc. And then I love > those arguments about big brakes stopping better, lol. If I'd spent $2500 on Big Brakes, I'd tell people they stopped better, too. :) - Mark -- mark@pdc-racing.net
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Re: Track Wheels - from Michael
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Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 18:06:38 -0400 From: Michael <95m3ltw@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Track Wheels >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Dadgar [mailto:mark@pdc-racing.net] >If I'd spent $2500 on Big Brakes, I'd tell people they stopped >better, too. Plus I would add how the chicks really really dig them aswell, lol Mike
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#6. Subframe bolt puzzle figured out - from KLchmn@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 21:12:37 EDT From: KLchmn@aol.com Subject: Subframe bolt puzzle figured out Gruppe, We'll, with the help of the ETK, I figured things out for myself. In case anyone is interested, here's the deal. The front two subframe bushings are held on by nuts. Unlike the E30 though, the studs that the nuts go on are actually threaded into the body of the car! So when the nut wouldn't come off, the whole thing just unthreaded itself (over 1 inch of threads, grade 8.8 hardware!). Put a 24mm wrench on the built in nut in the middle of the part and off the nut came. It's kinda funky, but it works. FWIW, my 4/95 production M3 has the reinforced subframe mounting points on the body. They look like an afterthought... Cheers, Kirk Lachman Sin City Chapter '95 M3 #21 I-stock (slightly disassembled...)
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#7. Drool ....... - from Steve Walsh
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Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 20:03:40 -0700 From: Steve Walsh <stevewalsh@earthlink.net> Subject: Drool ....... http://www.mclaren4sale.com/main.html
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#8. Track Wheels - from Nsxlr8@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 09:58:19 -0400 From: Nsxlr8@aol.com Subject: Track Wheels I have a $600 set of staggered 10 spokes for sale: http://www.lonepinebeaterchallenge.com/images/10spoke.jpg but you mentioned that you're looking for the same size all the way around, which I too think is the way to go for track wheels. =========================================================== If you have a set of staggered wheels, couldn't you get another set and use the four 8.5" wheels for track duty and the four 7.5" wheels for street or snows? Jeff
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#9. Sticky tyres - from Steve Klein
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 10:24:55 -0700 From: Steve Klein <klein@robinsonad.com> Subject: Sticky tyres Semi OT Ramble: Friday morning, I got a call from a former client who was sponsoring a session of the Richard Petty Driving Experience here in KC at the Woodlands oval track (I hesitate to say race track since the only right turns are out of the parking lot) and letting me know that they had one driving spot still open. It was only about 8 laps staying tucked in behind an instructor, but it was quite a hoot. No speedo, but they estimated we reached a steady 140-150. They were slicks, obviously (forgot to look at the brand) but I now have a new respect for the amounts of lateral grip that tyres are capable of. Banked track, warm day and all, we didn't back off through the turns and there was still oodles of grip to be had. I would estimate that we could have added another 30 mph before I would have had to worry about getting squirmy in the turns. I'm not a stock car fan, but the experience was worth a hundred times the nothing it cost me. Oh, no brakes though. They were about as effective as trying to use rusted backing plates to stop an Econoline van in the wet, but I guess they don't brake too much. OBMWC: I'd love to have taken M on the track with the new Eagle F1's just for a comparo. Sorry for rambling. Back to the F1 season in progress. Steve Tell the truth, explain to me, how you got this need for speed? She laughed and said, "It might just be the next best thing to love." - David Wilcox, "Eye of the Hurricane"
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Re: Track Wheels - from Mel Silva
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 11:28:29 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Track Wheels I'm going to throw some gasoline on the fire here and add a comment that in my own estimation has been overlooked. Sticky track tires (even if they are DOT's) are definitely more fun at an open track or driving event. People also have different definitions of what a track tire is (for DE's anyway). The comment I believe has been overlooked, is that when you add the extra grip of a "track tire" to the car, you accelerate the wear of almost all other components of the car (engine, brakes, bearings, bushings, etc.....). Not only does the extra grip makes other components wear more rapidly, it puts more stress on fasteners (like bolts holding your suspension together!). If you know who Scott Griffith is (and some of you do) then you know what a "creeper tour" is. The more grip you add the more effort you must put into your creeper tour to compensate for the added wear items. For those that don't know Scott, a creeper tour is where you put the car up in the air one weekend and use a good light, some common sense, and a liberal amount of diligence to check every fastener and every wear item from stem to stern. <mode = preachy> I am a pupil of Scott's tutelage and I have never had a catastrophic failure of ANYTHING when I was on the track, except for the one time when I thought I was "too busy" to do the creeper tour. I learned my lesson, and thankfully it was painless and only (very) mildly expensive (rear control arm bushings squeezed from their sleeves if you must know). Others have not been so lucky. I saw a Mustang try and do a pole vault as the front U-Joint failed on the front straight at Thunderhill. Icky! </mode> The idea is to have fun, right? Mel (who's track days are over, for now)