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#1. Re: [E36M3] Drool ....... - from Jon Phillips
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 09:56:15 -0700 From: jon@maximumpc.com (Jon Phillips) Subject: Re: [E36M3] Drool ....... I'll say one thing: online car sales have made some great photographs of supercars available to the general public. Ebay is a great resource of fine-detail shots of Porches and Ferraris. Thanks for the link! At 10:04 PM 5/11/2003 -0500, Steve Walsh wrote: >Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 20:03:40 -0700 >From: Steve Walsh <stevewalsh@earthlink.net> >Subject: Drool ....... > >http://www.mclaren4sale.com/main.html > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Jon Phillips jphillips@maximumpc.com editor-in-chief 415-656-8778 Maximum PC magazine www.maximumpc.com Maximum PC/Future Network USA 150 North Hill Drive, Ste. 40 Brisbane, CA 94005 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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#2. VDO Oil Gauge Pressures - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 13:46:11 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: VDO Oil Gauge Pressures > When my 5W-30 Mobil 1 oil is warm, say 180 deg F, and my engine is at idle, > my eastermountain Oil distribution block with VDO sender and gauge can read > about 10 psi...maybe even a little less (95 M3). I've heard others > commenting on this, so I think your readings are in the range of normal for > this particular kit. I have a custom, KoalaMotorsport oil distribution block (which I further customized this weekend installing it with my euro oil filter housing...) with VDO Vision gauges (0-80 oil pressure) and Eastern Motorwerks wiring harness and VDO oil pressure sender. Whether the old US oil filter housing or the new Euro oil filter housing, I have oil pressure in the ~20-30 range at start-up, 60 psi max at any rpm speeds much greater than idle, and once the oil (Red Line 10W40) warms up, the lowest I have seen my oil pressure go at idle is ~17 psi. If you have much less than 15 psi, something is wrong with your oil pump or the gauge/sender isn't accurate IMO. Regards, Rich
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#3. Re: Sticky tyres - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 14:16:20 -0400 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Sticky tyres A hundred times nothing is still nothing! ;-) Sounds like fun... Ron Buchalski BMWCCA #76387 1995 E36 M3 1993 E34 525iT 1999 Mazda Miata >Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 10:24:55 -0700 >From: Steve Klein <klein@robinsonad.com> >Subject: Sticky tyres > >Semi OT Ramble: > <snip> > >I'm not a stock car fan, but the experience was worth a hundred times >the nothing it cost me. Oh, no brakes though. They were about as >effective as trying to use rusted backing plates to stop an Econoline >van in the wet, but I guess they don't brake too much. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Drool ....... - from Jason Bishop
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 03:34:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Bishop <jason@doomba.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Drool ....... oops, make that road&track... On Mon, 12 May 2003, Jason Bishop wrote: > > anybody know if the car forsale is the same car as on the car&driver > cover? the car&driver one (arizona plates) was at the concorso italiano > (monterey) last year and the owner started it up and let it idle for like > an hour. they sound cool, even at idle. (it also has a distinctive part > in the engine bay where the gold was worn off one of the carbon fibre > peices. the photos don't show the part though). > > Jason > > > On Sun, 11 May 2003, Steve Walsh wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 20:03:40 -0700 > > From: Steve Walsh <stevewalsh@earthlink.net> > > Subject: Drool ....... > > > > http://www.mclaren4sale.com/main.html > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > ************************************************* > > > > > >
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#5. Re: Subframe bolt puzzle figured out - from shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:20:52 -0400 From: shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com Subject: Re: Subframe bolt puzzle figured out >The front two subframe bushings are held on by nuts. Unlike the E30 though, >the studs that the nuts go on are actually threaded into the body of the car! > So when the nut wouldn't come off, the whole thing just unthreaded itself >(over 1 inch of threads, grade 8.8 hardware!). Put a 24mm wrench on the >built in nut in the middle of the part and off the nut came. >It's kinda funky, but it works. This same thing happened to me over the weekend as I changed the Subframe mounts on the race car. The nut on the bottom was frozen and repeated licks with the air gun simply loosened the entire bolt out of the unit body. Didn't know what was going on until the subframe dropped out and we got a look at it. FWIW, the mounts on my car were fine. They would have gone a while longer without any problem, but I replaced them with the race bushings since we were that far into the job. The entire job, while long (especially since it was hot and humid this weekend), was not difficult per se. No different than changing RTAB's using the drill and sawzall technique. We had a commercial Dewalt drill that made quick work of what would have been difficult (I presume) with a lesser drill. The sawzall part was pretty easy once I got the technique down. Turns out that the problem I was chasing was a blown shock (so much for my diagnosis skills). I had not suspected it originally since it was just rebuilt two races ago...So it's back in a FedEx box to Ground Control as we speak for another look. Hopefully they'll have it ready in time to make Mid Ohio in two weeks. Shane K. '96 M3 "94 325i #335 JP This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Drool ....... - from Jason Bishop
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 03:32:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Bishop <jason@doomba.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Drool ....... anybody know if the car forsale is the same car as on the car&driver cover? the car&driver one (arizona plates) was at the concorso italiano (monterey) last year and the owner started it up and let it idle for like an hour. they sound cool, even at idle. (it also has a distinctive part in the engine bay where the gold was worn off one of the carbon fibre peices. the photos don't show the part though). Jason On Sun, 11 May 2003, Steve Walsh wrote: > Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 20:03:40 -0700 > From: Steve Walsh <stevewalsh@earthlink.net> > Subject: Drool ....... > > http://www.mclaren4sale.com/main.html > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#7. Spring questions - LTWs Euros ??? - from Murray Roblin
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:50:01 -0700 From: "Murray Roblin" <murray@farleyroblin.com> Subject: Spring questions - LTWs Euros ??? I just received a set of springs, advertised by as being for e36 LTWs, through ebay seller strictly german. On opening the package, I was surprised to find that the springs aren't close to what is described on Suzy's tech page, or what I've seen in the past. I've spent a bit of time in the archive, but have been unable to tease out what I wound up with. Does anyone have any ideas? The front springs: 4 white dots 10 7/8" free length 5.5" coil OD 0.50" wire dia sticker with bmw pn 33 53 6(?) 492 719 (isn't group 33 the rear suspension?) rear springs: 4 white dots 8" free length 0.650" wire dia I have two sources who say that front LTW springs come with 4 blue dots. One of these sources suggest that these springs may have been sourced from PTG. TIA and caveat emptor, Murray
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Spring questions - LTWs Euros ??? - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 19:48:18 -0400 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Spring questions - LTWs Euros ??? Those do sound just like the ones offered by PTG as LTW race springs. They are the ones that are legal in T2. Very nice set of springs but they might be too stiff for the street for most people. I have a set in the garage now but they don't have any part numbers on them. 4 white dots on them though. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com -----Original Message----- From: Murray Roblin [mailto:murray@farleyroblin.com] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 6:55 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Spring questions - LTWs Euros ??? Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:50:01 -0700 From: "Murray Roblin" <murray@farleyroblin.com> Subject: Spring questions - LTWs Euros ??? I just received a set of springs, advertised by as being for e36 LTWs, through ebay seller strictly german. On opening the package, I was surprised to find that the springs aren't close to what is described on Suzy's tech page, or what I've seen in the past. I've spent a bit of time in the archive, but have been unable to tease out what I wound up with. Does anyone have any ideas? The front springs: 4 white dots 10 7/8" free length 5.5" coil OD 0.50" wire dia sticker with bmw pn 33 53 6(?) 492 719 (isn't group 33 the rear suspension?) rear springs: 4 white dots 8" free length 0.650" wire dia I have two sources who say that front LTW springs come with 4 blue dots. One of these sources suggest that these springs may have been sourced from PTG. TIA and caveat emptor, Murray ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Spring questions - LTWs Euros ??? - from nabli@earthlink.net
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 19:52:32 -0400 From: <nabli@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Spring questions - LTWs Euros ??? Not sure what you mean by "LTWs Euros" If you mean that he claims to have sold you springs from the U.S. E36 CSL (i.e., the 95 LTW) then you have the wrong springs for the front of your car. Excluding the 95 LTW, nearly all U.S. M3 came with A/C and the front spring for the LTW is specific for a car without A/C. The correct "euro" numbers are the one's listed on Suzy's page. 31 33 2 227 422 front (note: the U.S. LTW and the Euro 3.0 M3's without A/C use 31 33 2 227 421) 33 53 9 064 881 rear I won't get into all the variations for the 96+ M3's because it depends on what options you have although most U.S. cars came with the same springs. Frankly, you are better off getting a set of Eibach's unless you can get the right euro springs really really cheap. Otherwise, the modest spring rate increase from the euro springs are not likely to make a huge difference. Cheers, Jim E. -----Original Message----- From: Murray Roblin [mailto:murray@farleyroblin.com] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 6:55 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Spring questions - LTWs Euros ??? Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:50:01 -0700 From: "Murray Roblin" <murray@farleyroblin.com> Subject: Spring questions - LTWs Euros ??? I just received a set of springs, advertised by as being for e36 LTWs, through ebay seller strictly german. On opening the package, I was surprised to find that the springs aren't close to what is described on Suzy's tech page, or what I've seen in the past. I've spent a bit of time in the archive, but have been unable to tease out what I wound up with. Does anyone have any ideas? The front springs: 4 white dots 10 7/8" free length 5.5" coil OD 0.50" wire dia sticker with bmw pn 33 53 6(?) 492 719 (isn't group 33 the rear suspension?) rear springs: 4 white dots 8" free length 0.650" wire dia I have two sources who say that front LTW springs come with 4 blue dots. One of these sources suggest that these springs may have been sourced from PTG. TIA and caveat emptor, Murray ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Spring questions - LTWs Euros ??? - from Rich Beebe
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 21:30:40 -0400 From: Rich Beebe <rich@beebecomm.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Spring questions - LTWs Euros ??? as you already know, those are definitely not LTW springs. i forget actually what the rear color/count on LTW springs are, but i have them downstairs in a box. a few years ago, 3 people, myself included, bought the same set you have now from PTG. PTG swore they were 'stock' LTW springs and would never agree to take them back, after it was obvious these are not a good street spring. the drop is the biggest problem. those springs are very low and stiff. the best any of us could figure out is they are often referred to as 'CSL' springs. other than that, there is very little info on those springs. i was able to sell my set to robbie kollar for his T2 car (they were the 'allowable' race spring by the SCCA), but the other two still have both of theirs. rich From: "Murray Roblin" <murray@farleyroblin.com> > Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:50:01 -0700 > From: "Murray Roblin" <murray@farleyroblin.com> > Subject: Spring questions - LTWs Euros ??? > > I just received a set of springs, advertised by as being for > e36 LTWs, through ebay seller strictly german. On opening > the package, I was surprised to find that the springs aren't > close to what is described on Suzy's tech page, or what I've > seen in the past. I've spent a bit of time in the archive, > but have been unable to tease out what I wound up with. Does > anyone have any ideas? > > The front springs: > 4 white dots > 10 7/8" free length > 5.5" coil OD > 0.50" wire dia > sticker with bmw pn 33 53 6(?) 492 719 (isn't group 33 the > rear suspension?) > > rear springs: > 4 white dots > 8" free length > 0.650" wire dia > > I have two sources who say that front LTW springs come with > 4 blue dots. One of these sources suggest that these springs > may have been sourced from PTG. > > TIA and caveat emptor, > > Murray