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#1. Looking for M3 catalytic converter and oxygen sensors - from Gcfuller@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:56:57 EDT From: Gcfuller@aol.com Subject: Looking for M3 catalytic converter and oxygen sensors Hunt- If you want to go cheap, an M3 cat was sold on Ebay last week for like $75. They said "it had a slight rattle," but that can be fixed with a couple of well placed sheet metal screws through the heat shield. That being said, ask the local dealer(s) what they do with their many warranty take off cats that are being repalced soley because of noisy heat shields - again, could be a cheap solution. Salvage yards are another good option. O2 sensors are best done by buying the universal 4 wire unit from Bosch. Since O2 sensors are the same except for the # of wires, the plug on the end, and (sometimes) the heater resistance, a universal unit will work fine. Just cut the plug off of you original unit and splice the wires to your new sensor. I will have two you can try off of my 540 later this week. They have about 3000 miles on them and work fine. The 540 just happens to have the most anal computer on the planet. My check engine light keeps going on and off, all because the o2 heater resistance is a couple ohms different than the factory sensor. My mechanic friend says this is a 540 quirk, and all other cars, including m3's, are not as sensitive. This is the first car I have ever seen not like a universal sensor. All other installations I have done have been just fine. Let me know if you want to try them. Greg Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 09:06:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Hunt Hodgetts <hhodgetts@yahoo.com> Subject: Looking for M3 catalytic converter and oxygen sensors My 96 M3 has 156k miles and needs a new catalytic converter and a couple oxygen sensors. The local BMW dealer wants outrageous prices for both. Does anyone have any spares they would sell or know where I can get either part at a cheaper price? Thanks, Hunt
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic converter and oxygen sensors - from DocWyte
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 10:10:22 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic converter and oxygen sensors It's illegal to sell a used catalytic converter. As such, no dealership or salvage yard will sell you one. Buying one over eBay is an option, but a risky one, as there's no gaurantee that what you'll receive is any better than what you have... -josh --- Gcfuller@aol.com wrote: > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:56:57 EDT > From: Gcfuller@aol.com > Subject: Looking for M3 catalytic converter and > oxygen sensors > > > Hunt- > > If you want to go cheap, an M3 cat was sold on Ebay > last week for like $75. > They said "it had a slight rattle," but that can be > fixed with a couple of > well placed sheet metal screws through the heat > shield. That being said, > ask the local dealer(s) what they do with their many > warranty take off cats > that are being repalced soley because of noisy heat > shields - again, could be > a cheap solution. Salvage yards are another good > option. > O2 sensors are best done by buying the universal 4 > wire unit from Bosch. > Since O2 sensors are the same except for the # of > wires, the plug on the end, > and (sometimes) the heater resistance, a universal > unit will work fine. > Just cut the plug off of you original unit and > splice the wires to your new > sensor. > I will have two you can try off of my 540 later this > week. They have about > 3000 miles on them and work fine. The 540 just > happens to have the most > anal computer on the planet. My check engine light > keeps going on and off, > all because the o2 heater resistance is a couple > ohms different than the > factory sensor. My mechanic friend says this is a > 540 quirk, and all other > cars, including m3's, are not as sensitive. This > is the first car I have > ever seen not like a universal sensor. All other > installations I have done > have been just fine. Let me know if you want to > try them. > > > Greg > > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 09:06:04 -0700 (PDT) > From: Hunt Hodgetts <hhodgetts@yahoo.com> > Subject: Looking for M3 catalytic converter and > oxygen sensors > > My 96 M3 has 156k miles and needs a new catalytic > converter and a couple oxygen sensors. The local BMW > dealer wants outrageous prices for both. Does anyone > have any spares they would sell or know where I can > get either part at a cheaper price? > Thanks, > Hunt > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic converter and oxygen sensors - from Go, Jeffrey
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 19:28:37 +0200 From: "Go, Jeffrey" <jeffrey.go@sap.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic converter and oxygen sensors Illegal to sell a used converter? What about a refurbished one??? That's what I have -----Original Message----- From: DocWyte [mailto:josh_wyte@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:15 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic converter and oxygen sensors Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 10:10:22 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic converter and oxygen sensors It's illegal to sell a used catalytic converter. As such, no dealership or salvage yard will sell you one. Buying one over eBay is an option, but a risky one, as there's no gaurantee that what you'll receive is any better than what you have... -josh --- Gcfuller@aol.com wrote: > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:56:57 EDT > From: Gcfuller@aol.com > Subject: Looking for M3 catalytic converter and > oxygen sensors > > > Hunt- > > If you want to go cheap, an M3 cat was sold on Ebay > last week for like $75. > They said "it had a slight rattle," but that can be > fixed with a couple of > well placed sheet metal screws through the heat > shield. That being said, > ask the local dealer(s) what they do with their many > warranty take off cats > that are being repalced soley because of noisy heat > shields - again, could be > a cheap solution. Salvage yards are another good > option. > O2 sensors are best done by buying the universal 4 > wire unit from Bosch. > Since O2 sensors are the same except for the # of > wires, the plug on the end, > and (sometimes) the heater resistance, a universal > unit will work fine. > Just cut the plug off of you original unit and > splice the wires to your new > sensor. > I will have two you can try off of my 540 later this > week. They have about > 3000 miles on them and work fine. The 540 just > happens to have the most > anal computer on the planet. My check engine light > keeps going on and off, > all because the o2 heater resistance is a couple > ohms different than the > factory sensor. My mechanic friend says this is a > 540 quirk, and all other > cars, including m3's, are not as sensitive. This > is the first car I have > ever seen not like a universal sensor. All other > installations I have done > have been just fine. Let me know if you want to > try them. > > > Greg > > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 09:06:04 -0700 (PDT) > From: Hunt Hodgetts <hhodgetts@yahoo.com> > Subject: Looking for M3 catalytic converter and > oxygen sensors > > My 96 M3 has 156k miles and needs a new catalytic > converter and a couple oxygen sensors. The local BMW > dealer wants outrageous prices for both. Does anyone > have any spares they would sell or know where I can > get either part at a cheaper price? > Thanks, > Hunt > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#4. M3 wheels and brakes - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 13:41:48 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: M3 wheels and brakes > Does anyone know who manufactures the BMW M contour wheels for the E36 M3 ? > I suspect BMW contracted with an outside company rather than making them on > their own. Not sure on this but I suspect someone made them for BMW. > Along similar lines, who makes the stock brake rotors and pads for the E36 > M3 ? Brake rotors are typically made by Ate IIRC (the calipers front and rear are definitely Ate). Pads were either Textar, Jurid or Pagids typically. Correct me if I am wrong on the rotors. Regards, Rich
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#5. minimum rotor thickness - from Scott Smith
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 10:44:51 -0700 From: Scott Smith <scott@gelatinous.com> Subject: minimum rotor thickness Anyone know what the minimum rotor thickness is for the front and rear rotors on an E36M3? Fronts are Brembos, rears are "BMW". Scott
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic converter and oxygen sensors - from DocWyte
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 11:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic converter and oxygen sensors Unless it's new, it's illegal to sell it. What's refurbished about it? -josh --- "Go, Jeffrey" <jeffrey.go@sap.com> wrote: > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 19:28:37 +0200 > From: "Go, Jeffrey" <jeffrey.go@sap.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic > converter and oxygen sensors > > Illegal to sell a used converter? > > What about a refurbished one??? > > That's what I have > > -----Original Message----- > From: DocWyte [mailto:josh_wyte@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:15 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic > converter and oxygen sensors > > > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 10:10:22 -0700 (PDT) > From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic > converter and oxygen sensors > > It's illegal to sell a used catalytic converter. As > such, no dealership or salvage yard will sell you > one. > Buying one over eBay is an option, but a risky one, > as there's no gaurantee that what you'll receive is > any better than what you have... > > -josh > ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com
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#7. RE: M3 vs 330Ci - from Darling Christopher O Maj ACSC Student AY03
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 13:24:28 -0500 From: Darling Christopher O Maj ACSC Student AY03 <Christopher.Darling@MAXWELL.AF.MIL> Subject: RE: M3 vs 330Ci Update: I just drove my buddy's E46 M3. The "throttle" issue I complained about with the 330 must be a function of the automatic transmission rather than the throttle itself. His M3 definitely doesn't do it. So I won't trade my car for a 330, but that E46 M3 is a different story......Mercy. What a rocket. Cod > -----Original Message----- > From: Darling Christopher O Maj ACSC Student AY03 > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 12:09 PM > To: 'BMW M3 Digest' > Subject: M3 vs 330Ci > > So while my '95 M3 is in for service, the dealer gave me a brand-new, > 3000-mile 330Ci on loan. Naturally, I am compelled to compare the two.... > > Baseline: The loaner car has an automatic tranny, and tires are 225/40 in > front and 255/35 in back. Biggest impression with the 330 is a sense of > an enormous bushing between my butt and the road. Car feels much more > isolated than my M3--some would describe it as "numb". NVH control is > much improved, but at the expense of the "connectedness" with the pavement > I get with my M3. The car is VERY quiet. Power is good, and it feels > like the gearing is lower. However, it seems to run out of breath at > higher RPMs, and it doesn't have the power reserve of the M3. Don't like > the power seats--can't find a comfortable position, and my head wants to > bump the roof if I don't recline back like a high-schooler with baggy > jeans. The Harmon-Kardon stereo really does blow--I guess all those > complaints I heard were true. The switchgear (e.g. turn signal stalk) is > excellent. > > Biggest gripe: throttle. I wonder if this car has the "electronic > fly-by-wire-throttle" people have spoken about. I can't stand it. It > drives like my previous Silverado pickup with the sticky throttle > butterfly. Gas is either "on" or "off". Very difficult to modulate when > leaving a stop sign. Maybe I'll get used to it with more seat time, but > for me it's difficult to drive smoothly. > > Bottom line: this is a very nice car. However, it's not nearly good > enough to tempt me to exchange my car for it, even though they supposedly > "have the same engine" (according to the dealer.) You'll pry my M3 keys > out of my cold, dead fingers--and not before. I've owned my baby for > nearly nine years now, and I'm more convinced than ever that I'll never > sell it! > > Cheers, > > Chris "Cod" Darling
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#8. Re: M3 vs 330Ci - from daanesh chanduwadia
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 01:16:32 -0400 From: "daanesh chanduwadia" <daanesh@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: M3 vs 330Ci Chris, We've got an 03 325i, and you're right about those seats - not that my 95= M3 is much better (you have to buy a 5er or X5 to get decent seats). My biggest gripe with the 330s i've driven (particularly the autos) was a= lso with the throttle. it's why we went for the 325i (well that and the = fact that the staggered tires are mandatory on the 330i sport). the over= sensitive throttle is apparent on all 3.0 BMWs: it's as though BMW is fol= lowing GM/Nissan/Audi in calibrating the throttle to impress during the t= est drive, when people extrapolate from the first 10% of throttle travel = what the next 90% must be capable of... Someone made the point recently = that the E30's long throttle was more linear and therefore more easily me= tered. If you think the throttle is sudden in the 330i try it in the X5,= with its higher CG and lower axle ratio - it requires a lot of concentra= tion to (re)apply the throttle without embarrassing yourself. The variable throttle mapping is a feature I've grown to appreciate on ou= r M5. I first thought it was a gimmick and used sport all the time. Now= I reserve it for when I want to balance the tail on the throttle - when = I've got passengers, am driving in traffic, or otherwise want to be smoot= h I call up the more traditional default mode. This customization is the = sort of stuff iDrive should be reserved for... it's a lot harder to buy a good BMW than it once was - the fact that you = can get the staggered M3 sized 18s on a car with 225hp and a 2.91 rear en= d is ludicrous, and there's certainly "we'll build 'em any way you'll buy= em", piecemeal feel to the current product line. but then again the pro= blem with driving a 95 M3 is that nothing since has seemed to measure up.= ...Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.ms= n.com
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#9. Re: [E36M3] minimum rotor thickness - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 11:40:02 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] minimum rotor thickness At 10:54 AM 5/14/03, Scott Smith wrote: >Anyone know what the minimum rotor thickness is for the front and rear >rotors on an E36M3? Fronts are Brembos, rears are "BMW". According to Bentley: F: 26.4mm (0.977 in) R: 18.4mm (0.723 in) Also, should be stamped on the hub of the rotor. Jim Bassett
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic converter and oxygen sensors - from Go, Jeffrey
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 21:39:23 +0200 From: "Go, Jeffrey" <jeffrey.go@sap.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic converter and oxygen sensors Refurbished....i take that to mean it was reconditioned... -----Original Message----- From: DocWyte [mailto:josh_wyte@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 11:15 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic converter and oxygen sensors Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 11:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic converter and oxygen sensors Unless it's new, it's illegal to sell it. What's refurbished about it? -josh --- "Go, Jeffrey" <jeffrey.go@sap.com> wrote: > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 19:28:37 +0200 > From: "Go, Jeffrey" <jeffrey.go@sap.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic > converter and oxygen sensors > > Illegal to sell a used converter? > > What about a refurbished one??? > > That's what I have > > -----Original Message----- > From: DocWyte [mailto:josh_wyte@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:15 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic > converter and oxygen sensors > > > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 10:10:22 -0700 (PDT) > From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Looking for M3 catalytic > converter and oxygen sensors > > It's illegal to sell a used catalytic converter. As > such, no dealership or salvage yard will sell you > one. > Buying one over eBay is an option, but a risky one, > as there's no gaurantee that what you'll receive is > any better than what you have... > > -josh > ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#11. Re: [E36M3] M3 wheels and brakes - from twisty M3
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:43:51 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 wheels and brakes >From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> > >Subject: M3 wheels and brakes > > > Does anyone know who manufactures the BMW M contour wheels for the E36 >M3 ? > > I suspect BMW contracted with an outside company rather than making them >on > > their own. > >Not sure on this but I suspect someone made them for BMW. > I think it may have been Ronal four the E36 M3 wheels, but I'm not 100% certain. > >Brake rotors are typically made by Ate IIRC (the calipers front and rear >are definitely Ate). Pads were either Textar, Jurid or Pagids typically. > Anothing thing I'm not really positive about, but I actually think our factory rotors were made by Balo? Ate may be correct, since most of our other brake components cerainly are made by them. Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail