E36M3 #3171

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 15:55:58

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#1. Hoosier R3SO3 Vs. Pilot Sport Cups... - from Chad Armstrong
#2. 245/40/17 Hoosiers - from Steve Hazard
#3. 245/40/17 hoosiers - from Paragonloan@aol.com
#4. re: lower shock mount -- oh crap - from Chris Conner
#5. Re: Need help with hot coolant temp guage - from Ron Buchalski
#6. Re: [E36M3] 245/40/17 Hoosiers - from Ahmad Lutfeali
#7. Re: [E36M3] 245/40/17 hoosiers - from Mark Dadgar
#8. Re: Need help with hot coolant temp guage - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
#9. Re: [E36M3] Euro Springs Fitment (a little bit different question) - from ChuckBrazeau@aol.com
#10. Re: lower shock mount -- oh crap - from Joe Tan

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#1. Hoosier R3SO3 Vs. Pilot Sport Cups... - from Chad Armstrong
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:51:28 -0700 From: Chad Armstrong <caarmstrong@epicor.com> Subject: Hoosier R3SO3 Vs. Pilot Sport Cups... Hi All, I am very curious to know if anyone has done back to back testing of these tires. All I am looking for is Lap time differences. I know the Pilot lasts longs I'm just wanting to know if they are overall slower....slower in early laps of races and then come on strong or are they generally the same. Also I have heard that the Pilot Cup's can be heat cycled 40 times and still have consistent lap times...this seems unheard of to me since I get about 14 heat cycles out of Hoosiers. Oh yeah, I am only interested in Open Track Racing not Autocross times. Thanks for any advice anyone has. Best Regards, Chad Armstrong 02 M3 911 Race Car #192

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#2. 245/40/17 Hoosiers - from Steve Hazard
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:03:39 -0400 From: "Steve Hazard" <SHazard@nhboston.com> Subject: 245/40/17 Hoosiers Rich, I ran 245/40's on my stock staggered rims with no problems. You will have to fender roll the rears if you have not done so already, and if your running C/O's up front you will need at least 5MM spacers.....I run C/O's with 3.5 degrees Neg and run H&R 5MM spacers...Remember you can flip your Hoosiers after 4 events to prolong their life a tad.... HTH, Steve -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 11:55:37 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: 245/40/17 Hoosiers Has anyone mounted 245/40/17 Hoosiers on 8" wide wheels? I know Tire Rack refers to an 8.5" wheel as the minimum for 245/40/17 but other tire manufacturers allow 245/40/17s on 8" wheels so I know that it is close to being acceptable. Also, I know Hoosier 245/40/17s are wide. But, Hoosier also states an 8" wheel as acceptable for 245/45/17 which are essentially the same width tire, just a little taller. I am asking because I have 8" wide wheels (SSR Integrals). Anyone? Also, if you are using Hoosier 245/40/17 and 8" wide wheel, how do they fit front and rear? Thanks, Rich

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#3. 245/40/17 hoosiers - from Paragonloan@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:11:44 EDT From: Paragonloan@aol.com Subject: 245/40/17 hoosiers I run 245/40/17 Kumhos on 8" wheels on all 4 corners with no rubbing. Rich how is the E30? Brian Jacobs 97 M3

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#4. re: lower shock mount -- oh crap - from Chris Conner
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:21:12 -0400 From: "Chris Conner" <chris@digital7.com> Subject: re: lower shock mount -- oh crap Yes, it is on backwards. The large washer goes closest to the bolt head. I'll admit to doing this once ;) If your c-clamp idea does not work, you may have to hammer the shock in with a hammer and large socket. Good luck. Chris -------------------- 4 -------------------- Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 21:24:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp <edsarkiss@yahoo.com> Subject: lower shock mount -- oh crap listers -- i was deailing my car this afternoon, and did my usual "check underneath for anything weird" inspection and to my horror saw this at the base of my H&R/bilstein rear shocks: http://nobot.2y.net/m3/passenger-bad.jpg contrast that with the driver's side: http://nobot.2y.net/m3/driver-good.jpg anyone seen something like this before? did i put the shocks on backwards (semi-flat washer goes toward the bolt head)? i don't think i forgot the washer on that side... i'm thinking of using a c-clamp to move the shock back so that i can get the bolt out, removing the bolt, and adding a large washer to ensure this doesn't happen again.

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#5. Re: Need help with hot coolant temp guage - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:24:06 -0400 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Need help with hot coolant temp guage Lowell, What about the water pump being bad? Bad water pump = No coolant flow = overheating Also, if the heater valve was set to 'off', there was no hot coolant flowing through the heater core while the engine was running. So, by merely turning on the blower, and even turning on the heater valve, he wouldn't feel any heat since the water pump would need to be turning (engine running) to get hot fluid into the now-opened heater core. he DID say that he turned on the heater after he pulled the car to the side of the road and shut the engine down..... I think it's a failed water pump. While you're in there, replace the thermostat, belts and hoses (if belts and hoses are old). Ron Buchalski BMWCCA #76387 1995 E36 M3 1993 E34 525iT 1999 Mazda Miata >Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 00:25:36 -0400 >From: Pilewan23@aol.com >Subject: Need help with hot coolant temp guage > > Hi fellow M3 owners, My 95 E36 M3 with 70k has been dealer >maintained by the previous owner. I've had it for 5k miles. On friday the >car was beiing driven at approx 34mph in third gear and coolant temp guage >went to red and the check engine light came on, and stayed on. I pulled of >the side of the road and turned the engine off immediately, then turned on >the heater at full blast, but there was no heat coming out the vents. I >reset the computer and the check engine light and the red temp light went >off, then I proceeded to drive the car to a parking lot and called AAA and >got it towed home. My mechanic told me he was not going to be able to look >at it till tuesday, but he said it sounds like the thermostat and even gave >me some advise as hoe to change the thermostat. I would like to say >thermostat, but the car had been driven for 15 minutes already and there >was no heat coming through the vents. >1)What do you guys think? >2)Should I just change the thermostat and see what happens? >3)Is it easy to remove the fan nut, 32mm I think? >Thanks in advane Ajay Avus blue > >-------------------- 12 -------------------- >Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:23:48 EDT >From: LoweSeaton@aol.com >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need help with hot coolant temp guage > > >It does NOT sound like the thermostat. Why does your friendly mechanic >think >so? If you do not have any heat coming out of the vents, then you don't >have >any hot water in the heater core. About the only way this can occur is >loosing coolant. See if you have any water in the radiator. If no, then >you have >a leaking water pump or ruptured radiator hose. You could have coolant >loss >from other failures but these two are the most common. Defective >thermostat >will not cause you to lose coolant. > >If it is not one of the above problems, then you are probably looking at a >blown head gasket. Very expensive. :-( And lets hope driving without >coolant >if it was one of the first two failures, did not warp your head. Good >luck. > >Lowell Seaton >'95 M3 >BMW CCA #131505 _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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#6. Re: [E36M3] 245/40/17 Hoosiers - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:23:34 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 245/40/17 Hoosiers I have used 245/40/17 Hoosiers on 8 inch wide wheels (Mille Miglia) on both my coupe and sedan. There was plenty of clearance; front and rear (hence no need to roll the fenders). Ahmad Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 19:21:29 +0000 From: asp9111@attbi.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] 245/40/17 Hoosiers I have them on 8"s. No problem with that. I can't say about fender clearance though since mine are on a different type of car. Bob > Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 11:55:37 -0400 > From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> > Subject: 245/40/17 Hoosiers > > Has anyone mounted 245/40/17 Hoosiers on 8" wide wheels? I know Tire > Rack refers > to an 8.5" wheel as the minimum for 245/40/17 but other tire manufacturers allow > 245/40/17s on 8" wheels so I know that it is close to being acceptable. Also, I > know Hoosier 245/40/17s are wide. But, Hoosier also states an 8" wheel as > acceptable for 245/45/17 which are essentially the same width tire, just a > little taller. I am asking because I have 8" wide wheels (SSR Integrals). > > Anyone? > > Also, if you are using Hoosier 245/40/17 and 8" wide wheel, how do > they fit > front and rear? > > Thanks, > > Rich >

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#7. Re: [E36M3] 245/40/17 hoosiers - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 13:33:15 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 245/40/17 hoosiers Paragonloan@aol.com at Paragonloan@aol.com wrote: > I run 245/40/17 Kumhos on 8" wheels on all 4 corners with no rubbing. > The 245 Hoosiers are about the same width as 255 Kumhos. And that'll require some serious fender rolling. - Mark, just did that -- mark@pdc-racing.net

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#8. Re: Need help with hot coolant temp guage - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:37:56 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: Need help with hot coolant temp guage OK, good catch. I didn't see the part where he turned OFF the engine and then turned on the heater and blower. Yeah, with the engine off, no car is going to have heat. But my main point was to dissuade him that it is the thermostat. His mechanic gave him very bad advice. The thermostat is the one thing NOT suspect. If it is a '95 M3 and it has never had the water pump replaced, then it is time to replace it. '95 water pumps have about a 70K life expectancy. Lowell Seaton

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Euro Springs Fitment (a little bit different question) - from ChuckBrazeau@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:38:46 -0400 From: ChuckBrazeau@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Euro Springs Fitment (a little bit different question) Nope, not at the time of the spring install. I had installed bilstein sport struts/shocks about 3 or 4 months prior to installing the springs, and i got the usual 1/4" raise from them, but the springs Euro springs added an additional 1/2" by themselves. Chuck Brazeau '95 BMW M3 - Violet on Black SCCA Solo2 - Street Modified #95 http://www.brazeauracing.com/ In a message dated 5/27/2003 11:05:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, RDORFFER@CleIndians.com writes: > Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:01:45 -0400 > From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> > Subject: Euro Springs Fitment (a little bit different question) > > > I purchased this set about 6 months ago (believing that they would lower my > > car 1/2" all around). The rear came down 1/4", but the front went UP 1/2". > > Did you change the shocks at the same time as you changed > to the euro springs? > > Regards, > > Rich

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#10. Re: lower shock mount -- oh crap - from Joe Tan
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 13:47:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Tan <mailjtan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: lower shock mount -- oh crap This is a very common problem with aftermarket shocks. Unlike the stock shocks, most aftermarket ones does not have the built in washer that will give the bolt some play. If you don't use a washer the bolt will just loose itself out and your shocks will we disconnected from the lower point. Mine came off too and didn't know until my car started to bounce due to the complete lack of damping on the affected corner of the car. Just go and pick up a pair of washers from a hardware store and reinstall the mounting bolts. If you lost the mounting bolt you will need to get buy one from your dealer. Joe. -------------------- listers -- i was deailing my car this afternoon, and did my usual "check underneath for anything weird" inspection and to my horror saw this at the base of my H&R/bilstein rear shocks: http://nobot.2y.net/m3/passenger-bad.jpg contrast that with the driver's side: http://nobot.2y.net/m3/driver-good.jpg anyone seen something like this before? did i put the shocks on backwards (semi-flat washer goes toward the bolt head)? i don't think i forgot the washer on that side... i'm thinking of using a c-clamp to move the shock back so that i can get the bolt out, removing the bolt, and adding a large washer to ensure this doesn't happen again. thoughts? -zs __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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