E36M3 #3226

Friday, June 27, 2003 06:29:44

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Chips .. are you interested (hacking?) - from Bruce
#2. Re: Cooling System - Update - from Neil Maller
#3. RE: Chips .. are you interested (hacking?) - from Jason \(RaceBro\)
#4. Need brake pad and rotor advice... - from Jamie Thomas
#5. Re: [E36M3] Chips .. are you interested (hacking?) - from Mark Dadgar
#6. Re: Cooling System - Update - from Neil Maller
#7. RE: brake pads and rotors - from russell
#8. Which type of coolant to use? - from Pilewan23@aol.com
#9. Re: [E36M3] Which type of coolant to use? - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
#10. Stuff for sale - from Mark Kelly

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Chips .. are you interested (hacking?) - from Bruce
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:10:54 -0500 From: "Bruce" <gobuffs93@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Chips .. are you interested (hacking?) LOL....this is my favorite part... "NON-COMMERCIAL" Wonder what helping him woulda been worth in today's dollars. :-) Bruce 89 M3 2.5 (sharked) 95 M3 (not sure if it is sharked...bogus chip?) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 5:48 PM Subject: [E36M3] Chips .. are you interested (hacking?) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:44:49 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Chips .. are you interested (hacking?) This was posted on another list I am on and I found it pretty humorous and worth reposting here: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&th=3d6a1da673fcc7c0&rnum=22 Enjoy. Regards, Rich ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#2. Re:  Cooling System - Update - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:17:44 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Cooling System - Update I wonder if it's made by C&R Racing, a respected aluminum radiator supplier in Indy. Not found on their web site though, <http://www.crracing.com> Anyway, looks like a good deal from Zionsville. Neil 96 M3 ----- on 6/26/03 5:24 PM, Jeremy Lucas at jlucas@columbus.rr.com wrote: > I inquired after seeing Neil's post. > Reply from Zion: > > It's hand-made right here in Indiana (except the fins). Yes, it's a > direct replacement. > > Zionsville Autosport > Parts Department | 1.800.BIMMERS > www.zionsvilleautosport.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil Maller" <neil.maller@gte.net> > >> While on Zionsville's web site, I also saw that they're offering an > all >> alloy radiator for $459, see: >> > <http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/store/shop.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code > =613 >> 4&Product_Code=NP-ALLOYRAD>

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#3. RE: Chips .. are you interested (hacking?) - from Jason \(RaceBro\)
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 16:31:56 -0700 From: "Jason \(RaceBro\)" <racebro@santacruzbicycles.com> Subject: RE: Chips .. are you interested (hacking?) THAT is golden! >From humble beginnings.... Jason Lombard '95 M3 Satisfied Conforti customer.... -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:44:49 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Chips .. are you interested (hacking?) This was posted on another list I am on and I found it pretty humorous and worth reposting here: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&th=3d6a1da673fcc 7c0&rnum=22 Enjoy. Regards, Rich

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#4. Need brake pad and rotor advice... - from Jamie Thomas
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 16:39:25 -0700 From: "Jamie Thomas" <midpoint@mindspring.com> Subject: Need brake pad and rotor advice... Josh- I track my M3 heavily (about 23 days a season) and I have just stuck = with stock Jurid Pads and Euro Floating Rotors. I found Jurid's to be a = great all around pad, with less dusting compared to the Porterfeilds = etc. They don't squeal and the Euros get less "warpage" per se. If you = are really "pushing it" at the track (meaning you expect to get that = last second out of your car on the track), you may want to go with a = track pad. But, if you only track 2 or so times a year, stick with = stock. For a great price, but alittle far away, try Nick Alexander BMW @ 1800 = 800-nick. They have prices you cant beat and they give a club discount. = Ask for Jose. Thanks, Jamie Thomas 97 M3/4 with over 100,000 trouble free miles and completely (well = almost) stock

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Chips .. are you interested (hacking?) - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 16:40:53 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Chips .. are you interested (hacking?) Dorffer, Rich at RDORFFER@CleIndians.com wrote: > This was posted on another list I am on and I found it pretty humorous and > worth reposting here: > > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&th=3d6a1da673fcc7c > 0&rnum=22 > > Enjoy. I forwarded this to Jim. His response: Pass back to Rich and the gang this. Q) How many people responded back. A) One He later became my partner in a BUSINESS after 3 years of me sinking money into a hole in everyone else's car ;) :) - Mark -- mark@pdc-racing.net

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#6. Re: Cooling System - Update - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 19:46:43 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Cooling System - Update Yeah, I have a couple of those switches lying around but not installed: 80/88C vs. current 91/99C. However I'm not really interested in changing the engine's operating characteristics, just in making sure some more air gets moved through the engine compartment while the car is at a standstill. The new fan clutch and "small" fan seem to be doing the job fine. Besides, wouldn't want to wear out that expensive electric fan before its time ;) Neil 96 M3 on 6/26/03 6:18 PM, Roger Baker <RogerBkr@netscape.net> wrote: > Have you tried just changing the thermal switch that triggers the > factory electric fan? I've been running this mod for several years now > and no problem, but I changed the thermal switch. Now, the electric fan > comes on at lower temperatures like a primary fan should. Still 2 speed, > so it'll kick on high if you turn on the a/c or it gets hot. > -- > Roger Baker > > Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> wrote: > >> <snip> >> Since then I've been running without a main fan, as practiced by Lowell S. >> and others, with no apparent ill effects. However my keenly calibrated >> olfactory pyrometer indicates that the underhood temperatures get high if >> the car idles when already hot. I would like to fit a replacement main fan, >> but clearly not the stock one. The objective is to move some air, but not to >> consume too much power. Oh, and not to hit the radiator...

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#7. RE: brake pads and rotors - from russell
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 21:01:51 -0700 (PDT) From: russell <driver8m3@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: brake pads and rotors i just did pads and rotors. i got the hawk hps pads and so far (1 week) i'm very happy with them. with just regular/fast street driving, they produce almost zero dust. i put new rims on the car on monday, and they're still clean today...you know how they would look with stock pads. no experience with autox or track use, so cant comment on that. here's a list of what i got in case you want to comparison shop: hawk hps pads (bimmerworld): -front $64.00 -rear $54.00 -shipping was about $9.00 rotors (eurasian automotive parts- 909-308-1744-www.eap4parts.com...recommended by a fellow lister): -front (brembo) $98.00 -rear (zimmerman) $75.26 -shipping $35.88 russell > -------------------- 3 -------------------- > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:17:48 -0700 (PDT) > From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> > Subject: Need brake pad and rotor advice... > > Well, > > It's time to do the pads and rotors in my '95 M3. > > I use the car as my daily driver here in New England, > so cold stopping is important. It's also my auto-x > machine and I might do an occasional track school with > it. > > My questions are... > > Ferodo DS2500 or Hawk HPS? > > OEM rotors, G3000 rotors or ? > > Best place to get this stuff at a good price? > > Thanks! > > -josh ===== "democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."-ben franklin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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#8. Which type of  coolant to use? - from Pilewan23@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:32:56 EDT From: Pilewan23@aol.com Subject: Which type of coolant to use? Which type of coolant should I use? I recently changed my thermostat and waterpump on my 95 M3 and the service manual says to use phosphate free coolant. Normally I would use the Havoline dexcool, but as the coolant that I drained out was green rather than the dexcool red. A few days ago I read in European car magazine that you must use genuine BMW coolant ony or risk problems. Do I have to use genuine BMW coolant or am I okwith dexcool?

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Which type of  coolant to use? - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 01:49:56 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Which type of coolant to use? You have several issues here. First, the last guy did NOT use BMW spec antifreeze. BMW antifreeze is blue - very distinctive. Now your second problem is Dexcool canNOT be mixed with common green antifreeze. The only way you could use Dexcool now is to completely and thoroughly flush out all the old green antifreeze. I personally always use BMW blue antifreeze. I buy it from the local dealership. I think the last time I paid $17/gallon. Preston antifreeze sells for $9.49 at Wal-Mart. The cost difference is insignificant since you only change the coolant about every 2 years. Now in your case, you probably could use anything but Dexcool. You may as well just continue to use Preston antifreeze. As I understand it, the reason BMW and other European car makers specify "phosphate-free" antifreeze is because the water in Europe is much harder. Phosphates in typical "green" antifreeze will form solids and scale in the radiator. However, since our water doesn't have the hardness in the first place, what little solids are formed won't be a problem. Plus, you do use distilled water, right? It should not be hard. Bottom line? Don't use Dexcool. Switch to BMW coolant if you want. But you can use just about any antifreeze with no harm. I think many, if not all of them are phosphate free anyway. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 Dallas, Texas --------------------------------------- Pilewan23@aol.com writes: > Which type of coolant should I use? I recently changed my thermostat and > waterpump on my 95 M3 and the service manual says to use phosphate free > coolant. > Normally I would use the Havoline dexcool, but as the coolant that I drained > > out was green rather than the dexcool red. A few days ago I read in European > > car magazine that you must use genuine BMW coolant ony or risk problems. Do > I > have to use genuine BMW coolant or am I okwith dexcool?

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#10. Stuff for sale - from Mark Kelly
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:28:13 -0400 From: Mark Kelly <mark@garden.net> Subject: Stuff for sale Hi, I have the following items for sale off of my previous 98 M3/2: 1. UUC SwayBarbarian (solid), with adjustable links. You will need new bushings. $200.00 OBO 2. Replica LTW 3-piece rear wing. Bought from Racepad.com. Never mounted. Painted bright red (hellrot). 300.00 OBO (wing sells for 500 new) Buyer pays shipping but, I would prefer local pickup (northern NJ) for the wing as it is a pain to ship. Thanks, Mark mark@garden.net

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