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#1. squeaky E36 clutch pedal - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:44:58 -0500 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: squeaky E36 clutch pedal Folks, My E36M3 clutch pedal is squeaking every other time I depress it. After some digging, I think I had traced the source to the plastic piston inside the metal pedal return spring (right behind the pedal). Otherwise, the clutch works/engages great. Liberal application of lubes only quiets it down for a day or two at most. Than the squeaking returns. I'm about to order a replacement spring/piston assembly and start figuring out how to swap them out. Has anyone BTDT? Any other suggestions? TIA, alex f
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#2. Re: [E36M3] squeaky E36 clutch pedal - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:01:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] squeaky E36 clutch pedal It's really not the spring/sliding halves assembly. I placed my fingers at different points and located the noise (at least on my car) to that top of the clutch pedal arm where there is an extra molded piece and a rubber grommet inserted. At least that's how I remembered it. I sprayed a little HH2000 on it and it's been quiet for about a year now. Chester --- alex.fadeev@verizon.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:44:58 -0500 > From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com > Subject: squeaky E36 clutch pedal > > Folks, > My E36M3 clutch pedal is squeaking every other time I depress it. After > some digging, I think I had traced the source to the plastic piston inside > the metal pedal return spring (right behind the pedal). Otherwise, the > clutch works/engages great. Liberal application of lubes only quiets it > down for a day or two at most. Than the squeaking returns. > I'm about to order a replacement spring/piston assembly and start figuring > out how to swap them out. > Has anyone BTDT? > Any other suggestions? > > TIA, > alex f > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and > privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, > please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this > e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this > information by a person other than the intended recipient is > unauthorized and may be illegal. =====
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#3. Re: [E36M3] squeaky E36 clutch pedal - from Jon Phillips
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 10:05:25 -0700 From: jon@maximumpc.com (Jon Phillips) Subject: Re: [E36M3] squeaky E36 clutch pedal The UUC bushing replacement is the agreed-upon fix. It's a royal PAIN to get it in, but it is a permament fix. BMW should be ashamed of itself for not making the fix a warrantied operation on all E36s. The problem is universal. At 11:58 AM 7/3/2003 -0500, alex.fadeev@verizon.com wrote: >Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:44:58 -0500 >From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com >Subject: squeaky E36 clutch pedal > >Folks, >My E36M3 clutch pedal is squeaking every other time I depress it. After >some digging, I think I had traced the source to the plastic piston inside >the metal pedal return spring (right behind the pedal). Otherwise, the >clutch works/engages great. Liberal application of lubes only quiets it >down for a day or two at most. Than the squeaking returns. >I'm about to order a replacement spring/piston assembly and start figuring >out how to swap them out. >Has anyone BTDT? >Any other suggestions? > >TIA, >alex f > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > >This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and >privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, >please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this >e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this >information by a person other than the intended recipient is >unauthorized and may be illegal. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Jon Phillips Editorial Director, Computing Group jphillips@futurenetworkusa.com 415-656-8778 Future Network USA 150 North Hill Drive, Ste. 40 Brisbane, CA 94005 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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#4. extra stuff!!!!!!!!!! - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:06:28 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: extra stuff!!!!!!!!!! .....people, people, people, PLEASE _try_ and strip this > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and > privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, > please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this > e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this > information by a person other than the intended recipient is > unauthorized and may be illegal. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. ....stuff outa' yer posts!!!! TIA KLBurgess
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#5. Re: undertray part numbers, aerodynamic differences, etc - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 13:16:04 -0400 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: undertray part numbers, aerodynamic differences, etc While I haven't installed them yet, I have the two pieces that you mentioned, for replacement in my 10/94 M3 Coupe. The single piece (51-71-2-268-673) is for the M3 LTW/M3 GT. Ron Buchalski BMWCCA #76387 1995 E36 M3 1993 E34 525iT 1999 Mazda Miata >Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:41:02 -0400 >From: "daanesh chanduwadia" <daanesh@hotmail.com> >Subject: undertray part numbers, aerodynamic differences, etc. > > >After getting the car back from having the A/C condenser replaced, I'm on= >ce again in the position of having to replace the front undertray on my 1= >0/94 build, '95 M3. > >I've received conflicting information from the parts departments at two B= >oston area BMW dealerships. The first 'special ordered': >p/n 51-71-2-268-673, list $219, my cost $164.25 >Since that price seemed higher than I paid the last time, I checked with = >a second parts dept., which said the single piece has been replaced by 2 = >separate ones: >p/n 51-71-2-250-643, $78.00 >p/n 17-11-2-227-690, $18.60 >Questions: =20 >Any reason NOT to go with the less expensive alternative? >Are the two parts a direct replacement for the single one or will I need = >additional hardware, etc.? >Has anyone seen data re: the downforce provided by the variation in the '= >hump' of the 3.0 panel vs. the 3.2 vs. the JT panel vs. non M vs. going w= >ithout, etc? I seem to remember the 3.0 feeling more secure at speeds ov= >er 80, but there is also the difference in ride height, wheel rate, steer= >ing ratios, etc. (This is my reason for continuing to use the OEM piece w= >ith reinforced attachment points rather than the flat JT panel). >I'm curious if the first dealer's listing was out of date or the second s= >omehow thought my car was a 3.2, a 4-door, etc. Thanks for any illuminat= >ion you might be able to provide. >-DaaneshGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explo= >rer.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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#6. Re: M3 with cloth? - from John Hovell
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:22:04 -0700 (PDT) From: John Hovell <jhovell@stanford.edu> Subject: Re: M3 with cloth? It was a European-only option. In the U.S. you had to special order it. I have a '95 Alpine White with grey suede/cloth inserts. The doors are standard 2-tone doors, though, with no cloth there. Personally, I like the cloth/suede a lot better. It grips you better in the turns, doesn't get hot and cold as much with the weather, and the suede doesn't crack and age the way the leather side bolsters do. Congrats on purchasing a very rare car! - John > Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:41:50 -0700 (PDT) > From: Hunt Hodgetts <hhodgetts@yahoo.com> > Subject: M3 with cloth? > > Yesterday, I purchased a Black 96 M3 with cloth > interior. I have looked at over 500 E36 M3's and never > seen one with cloth. The interior is black, the seats > are vaders, and the sides of the seats are a black > suede. The middle, though, is black with pink and blue > lines in a spider web pattern. Even the door inserts > have this. Does anyone know the story about this?
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#7. Re: [E36M3] UUC Stage 2 flywheel - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:23:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] UUC Stage 2 flywheel What you're hearing is the gear lash that's caused by the crank accelerating/deccelerating ever so minutely as the pistons fire. There is some play between the helical gears in the tranny and when you're in neutral and the clutch is engaged (your foot isn't on it), the input shaft is turning and the rapid changes in acceleration giggles the gears (remember, the gears are constant mesh....1st through 5th are always turning). The heavier weight oil serves as a cushion to prevent the gears from giggling and making the noise....think thick syrup. With our flywheel/clutch setup, MT90 got rid of the noise completely, but the price you pay is sluggish shiftability. I tried the MTL as that was supposed to be a bit thicker than the D4ATF but it really wasn't. ....so I just put Mobil 1 D4ATF back in...as good as the Redline MTL and I have barely any rattle unless the AC is on. Chester --- DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> wrote: > Well, not quite. I can hear rattling at idle, it gets > worse when the car is hot, like after auto-x runs, and > substantially worse when I have the AC on. To the > point where it's just really damn loud. > > The noise goes away immediately when I put the clutch > in, which makes me very suspicious of the throw out > bearing. > > I called UUC to ask them about this and they told me > to change the tranny oil from my current Mobil 1 ATF > to Redline MT-90. I have a few quarts of the MT-90 > here ready to go in, but I'm still skeptical about the > oil being the problem. =====
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#8. RE: [E36M3] squeaky E36 clutch pedal - from Newman, Christopher
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:26:05 -0400 From: "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> Subject: RE: [E36M3] squeaky E36 clutch pedal Someone already mentioned the bushing. And I don't know if this is helpful or not (guess it depends on the climate you live in), but what I have noticed is that the clutch makes more noise when it's quite hot outside. As the temperatures get cooler, the noises tend to decrease. Perhaps related to expansion/contraction.
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#9. cloth seats - from James Clay
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:55:37 -0400 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: cloth seats I am going to recover the seats in my project car, probably with the cloth . Is there a factory correct color combination to replace my current light gray leather? It has the two-toned doors and I was thinking the darker grey suede on the side bolsters and a lighter center - are any of these colors OEM? James James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com Engineered BMW Performance 540.639.9648
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#10. M3 cloth seats - from eevans@planetc.com
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 14:23:45 -0400 From: eevans@planetc.com Subject: M3 cloth seats Was this the car that went through the Atlanta auction Wed.? If not then there are three that I know of. I've only seen one other cloth seat application and still don't know if it was custom or factory. Let us know when you find out. Evan Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 05:41:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Hunt Hodgetts <hhodgetts@yahoo.com> Subject: M3 with cloth? Yesterday, I purchased a Black 96 M3 with cloth interior. I have looked at over 500 E36 M3's and never seen one with cloth. The interior is black, the seats are vaders, and the sides of the seats are a black suede. The middle, though, is black with pink and blue lines in a spider web pattern. Even the door inserts have this. Does anyone know the story about this?