E36M3 #3247

Thursday, July 10, 2003 22:49:03

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#1. FS: $100 Supersprint Gift Certificate - from Riley, Scott
#2. Re: Overheated e36 - from Joe Tan
#3. E36m3 overheated - from cardinar@bellsouth.net
#4. RE: 88C or 92C thermostat on a '97 - from Burgess, Kim L
#5. Re: [E36M3] RE: Overheated e36 - from Ron Buchalski
#6. Chicagoland Dealer recommencations - from Carey Probst
#7. RE: [uuc] Chicagoland Dealer recommencations - from Jamie Howton
#8. Re: [E36M3] URGENT!! TRACK tires needed ASAP in Atlanta - from Jeremy Lucas
#9. Re: [E36M3] erattic fuel level readings - from Jim Bassett
#10. Reading Check Engine Codes - Whats the Trick? - from Kevin McLeaster

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#1. FS: $100 Supersprint Gift Certificate - from Riley, Scott
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:39:31 -0500 From: "Riley, Scott" <sriley@cardinalcapital.com> Subject: FS: $100 Supersprint Gift Certificate This is an official gift certificate from Supersprint North America (i.e. BMP) signed by Albert Hafner, President. I won the GC in a local BMW chapter party and don't plan on using it. I can fax a copy to interested parties for verification. It expires on December 5, 2003. Price is $50 including shipping :) Payment by PayPal is preferred. Thanks, Scott

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#2. Re: Overheated e36 - from Joe Tan
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:51:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Tan <mailjtan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Overheated e36 >My '95M3 67k miles, had it two months, overheated on the way home today. One of the most common failure of an E36 car. >My ex-wife had several such failures in her '93 325i. >My turn. I didn't notice the gauge all the way over, it's blocked my >the wheel, until I had been on the highway for about 5 minutes. I pulled >over, coolant was leaking/spraying thru the cap. Fan running, both >hoses hot, so I assume the thermostat is not stuck closed. Good assumption. But there must be something wrong to overheat the car right? >I let it sit for about an hour, (AAA said two hours to get a truck- >rush hour Atlanta). When the gauge was back to 12 o'clock, I topped up the >overflow to a little over the cold mark with water. >Then I slowly got back on the highway to see how far I could get. Not >far, within a minute, the temp went right back up again. It took me >another two minutes or so to find a place to pull over, and right as I >did, I heard a pop and I killed the motor. The driver's side radiator >POS plastic hose connector broke. Very bad judgement on your part to drive the car again after being overheated. This move might have cost you a new radiator and possible a warped head for overheating the motor too long. >So, some advice folks. Hopefully I don't have any head damage, I >realize it's a possibility. >But what do you guys think caused this? The famous POS water pumps they >put in these? I don't know if it has the newer style or not. But the >mileage is right where this crap starts. >So do I try to fix the radiator, or just get a new one? Damn thing looks new. One of the most obviou culprit is the water pump. I am ammazed how much we talk about the piece of time bomb called the water pump sitting on our E36 car and still people chooses to ignore it. >Any suggestions much appreciated folks. At this point what you need to do is change the water pump, thermostat, install a aluminium thermostat housing, new radiator (Aluminium one if you can get one at a decent price) and have the mechanic check to see if there is any damanges to the head/headgasket from overheating. Good luck! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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#3. E36m3 overheated - from cardinar@bellsouth.net
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:08:25 -0400 From: <cardinar@bellsouth.net> Subject: E36m3 overheated >-------------------- 8 -------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:25:10 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Overheated e36 james@bimmerworld.com writes: > Drill a couple of holes in the new > thermostat. > Thanks for the reply James. I too would like to know the reason for the holes. How big? Rick

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#4. RE: 88C or 92C thermostat on a '97 - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:22:05 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@BOEING.COM> Subject: RE: 88C or 92C thermostat on a '97 From: "JUSTIN asked: "What is everyone running? 88C or 92C thermostat on a '97?" I believe that the later E36(M3 only?) were built with the 92C thermostat to _help_ compliance with emissions standards (OBII 96+?). Back in a previous life - on a different car - I have run 180F (maybe 160F) thermostat to get maximum power as the engine as a whole does not get as hot (and suffer as significant heat soak?). I think mechanicals tend to wear more and combustion is less complete (lower mpg) as result of the lower 'charge' temperature. 80C = 176F 88C = 190F 92C = 197F Hope that helps Kim Burgess 99M3/2 w/o s-roof

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#5. Re: [E36M3] RE: Overheated e36 - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:29:00 -0400 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Overheated e36 Last fall, when I replaced the cooling system parts on my E34, the replacement thermostat had a small hole already drilled. I oriented the thermostat so the hole was at the highest point. Ron Buchalski BMWCCA #76387 1995 E36 M3 1993 E34 525iT 1999 Mazda Miata >Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:32:48 -0400 >From: Chris Papademetrious <chrispy@ieee.org> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Overheated e36 > >At 10:28 AM 7/10/2003 -0500, LoweSeaton@aol.com wrote: > >james@bimmerworld.com writes: > > > Drill a couple of holes in the new > > > thermostat. > >I'm not sure why James suggested this, but I've done this in the past for >other cars to assist in bleeding the system. It allows air bubbles to >bleed through while the system is cool, but doesn't allow enough flow to >hinder the thermostat's function when it needs to be closed. > > - Chris _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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#6. Chicagoland Dealer recommencations - from Carey Probst
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:48:24 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Chicagoland Dealer recommencations A friend of mine from Chicago is looking to join the ranks of BMW owners and I'd like to see him get a good start. Can anyone recommend a dealer in the Chicago area, good or bad, so I can advise him? Thanks in advance. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, '86 325e w/i cam BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters JC CAIed and Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced

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#7. RE: [uuc] Chicagoland Dealer recommencations - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:17:19 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@fotofab.com> Subject: RE: [uuc] Chicagoland Dealer recommencations > -----Original Message----- > Can anyone recommend a dealer in the Chicago area, good or > bad, so I can advise him? I bought my 330i from Patrick BMW in Schaumburg. They weren't bad to deal with from a sales perspective, I got a pretty fair deal on the exact car that I wanted and they gave me more than I thought I'd get for my trade-in. Their service department has been OK, but I have recently started to take my cars to Motorwerks in Barrington for service and am very pleased with them. I would recommend either dealership FWIW. BTW, here is a list of all of the Chicago area BMW dealerships: http://www.chicagoluxurycars.com/bmw.php Hope this helps. Jamie Howton 2002 330i 5 Spd Steel Blue Metallic SP 1995 M3 5 Spd Arctic Silver 1979 Porsche 928 5 Speed Opalmetallic

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#8. Re: [E36M3] URGENT!! TRACK tires needed ASAP in Atlanta - from Jeremy Lucas
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:19:24 -0400 From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] URGENT!! TRACK tires needed ASAP in Atlanta You might check if you local Discount Tire has some Toyo Proxes RA1 in stock. Jeremy Lucas 95 M3

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#9. Re: [E36M3] erattic fuel level readings - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:49:25 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] erattic fuel level readings At 11:48 PM 7/9/03, Scott M wrote: >When the gas tank is full, the gauge jumps between full and empty - bumps >will often dislodge the sending unit and send it the other direction. Once >it gets down a couple gallons it tends to read correctly, but today for the >first time I realized the gauge wasn't hardly dropping and I had 240 miles >of combo driving @21mpg showing right around 1/2 tank. Took 12 gallons so >it should have been reading 1/4 or below. Neil's comments are, as usual, spot on with regard to the fuel senders. I've been through one of each, sender/pump combo and sender-only. And as soon as I'm gainfully employed I'll be needing *another* sender pump combo. At least this time I haven't (stupidly) run out of gas :-) I've had good results getting parts at Zygmunt aka Bimmerparts.com. ~$112 for the pump, ~$33 for the sender. I usually get a new rubber gasket as well (~$3). My 2 cents, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP/A5

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#10. Reading Check Engine Codes - Whats the Trick? - from Kevin McLeaster
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:41:50 -0500 From: Kevin McLeaster <kmcleaster@iquest.net> Subject: Reading Check Engine Codes - Whats the Trick? I'm trying to read the OBD-1 check engine codes on my 1995 M3. I've tried repeatedly to get the Check Engine Light to flash after depressing the accelerator 5 times. The check engine light just stays on. What am I doing wrong? The car's build date is 6/95. Kevin D. McLeaster WB9HMI '95 M3 Arctic Silver

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