E36M3 #3254

Monday, July 14, 2003 10:52:21

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#1. Re: [E36M3] underdrive pulleys - from Chris Teague
#2. Re: [E36M3] RTAB - Big Question - from Chester Wong
#3. Re: Engine Codes - from Steve Klein
#4. Re: [E36M3] MP3 capable head unit suggestions? - from Seth Frader-Thompson
#5. RE: [E36M3] RTAB - Big Question - from Dames, Mark
#6. Re: [E36M3] MP3 capable head unit suggestions? - from Reid Conti
#7. Re: [E36M3] Replacement ///M Logo for M Double Spoke II Wheels? - from M540
#8. Re: [E36M3] MP3 capable head unit suggestions? - from Chris Papademetrious
#9. Re: [E36M3] MP3 capable head unit suggestions? - from DocWyte
#10. Re: Engine Codes - from Ron Buchalski
#11. Re: new Brembo rotors are on! - from Ron Buchalski

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#1. Re: [E36M3] underdrive pulleys - from Chris Teague
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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:23:31 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] underdrive pulleys Gary, OK, a review it is. When my radiator went out last summer, I added the Evosport underdrive pulley kit, since I had everthing apart anyway. The pullies look beautiful since they are milled aluminum. Install was easy except for the alternator pulley. I now have a custom tool for the alternator pulley, since it's tough to hold and tighten the nut at the same time. I milled a craftsman socket to accept a 1" open end wrench, so I could pass a torx wrench through the middle, and still turn the nut. Once installed, the car now pulls a little harder. I have been very pleased. No side effects after 1 year. We ran an autox today at California Speedway. It was 106 degrees outside. I let the car idle between the 3 runs, and it ran great. No mechanical fan either. I didn't dyno the car, and at the same time, I left the mechanical fan off, so it's not a direct comparison. I have never had any trouble with the electrical system, but I know Evosport has one with the stock size alternator pulley for those who may be worried about electrical issues. Rogue and UUC of course now have systems, but didn't when I got mine. Chris 97 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:28:06 -0400 > From: "Gary A. Preece" <gapreece@entreky.net> > Subject: underdrive pulleys > > Hey Guys, > > I seem to remember a few people mentioning that they were going to go the > underdrive pulley route a bit ago. How about a review? Thanks. > > Gary

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#2. Re: [E36M3] RTAB - Big Question - from Chester Wong
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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:17:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RTAB - Big Question --- Nancy Fluharty <fluhar@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > So what else do you need to do to drop the arm down? Uh...release the parking brake ;) Chester =====

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#3. Re: Engine Codes - from Steve Klein
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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:23:01 -0700 From: Steve Klein <klein@robinsonad.com> Subject: Re: Engine Codes Hi, Kevin- Mine is an 11/95, and my understanding is that the cutoff is at the OBD I and OBD II line, but I don't know where that is any more accurately that to say '95/'96. We are amongst oracles who know and may say. Yours will definitely qualify as OBD I. The only other suggestion I can think of is to try it by hand. After my first few attempts were unsuccessful, I tried depressing the pedal by hand and got it to work. I think I just needed to convince my foot that it could be done. Then, there's always the reader/reset tools. I have yet to get one, but it would take the somatic dance out of the equation. I hope this helps! Steve > Steve, > > Thanks for the reply. > > I swear I have performed the operation correctly, but can't get it to > work. > > One list member stated that this code-reading functionality was phased > out at some point. > > Can you tell me the build date on your M3 or other BMW that will > permit code reading? > > Thanks, > > Kevin McLeaster > > 95 M3 6/95 build date.

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#4. Re: [E36M3] MP3 capable head unit suggestions? - from Seth Frader-Thompson
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 00:31:45 -0400 From: "Seth Frader-Thompson" <fraderth@colorado.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] MP3 capable head unit suggestions? What I don't get is why nobody's come out with a head unit that can play mp3 DVDs. The DVD-ready players are only meant for playing direct audio and video, even when they also support mp3 CDs. Hopefully someone will get moving on this - who would bother with hard drive-based storage in the car if they had an mp3-capable DVD head unit or changer? Seth

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#5. RE: [E36M3] RTAB - Big Question - from Dames, Mark
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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 22:37:48 -0700 From: "Dames, Mark" <Mark.Dames@PDO.Co.Santa-Clara.CA.US> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RTAB - Big Question I found a LARGE pipe wrench will attache onto the top of the trailing arm perfectly. The arm is square shaped and the pipe wrench jaw is square shaped. The length of the pipe wrench enables you to put enough downward pressure on the arm to easily lower it to where the bushing accessible to work on. The pipe wrench is also real good at stabilizing the hanging control arm if you're working on the bushing with any type of power tool. -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Fluharty [mailto:fluhar@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:32 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] RTAB - Big Question Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 22:32:59 -0400 From: "Nancy Fluharty" <fluhar@worldnet.att.net> Subject: RTAB - Big Question I was expecting to change rear trailing arm bushings today. Scott King was good enough to loan me his Victory tool, and even stopped by to help (a learning experience - he hasn't done his own yet). Couple of surprises: The existing bushings were the newer type, with the flange. (8/95 build-date -- did they switch before the end of the model year?) Also, they were in pretty good shape -- one looked fine, the other had a small crack along the inner sleeve. PO said no suspension work was done by him, but possibly they were changed by a _previous_ previous owner. Since we weren't prepared to cut bushing flanges today, and the need isn't critical, we buttoned it all back up for another time. But when that time comes, we will need an answer to a Big Question. I expected to lower the arm enough to work under the car. Even removing the lower shock bolt and disconnecting the sway bar link (and, of course, the brake line), the arm wouldn't drop enough for the tool to clear the rocker. And there's certainly not enough room to use the tool in the wheel well recess. So what else do you need to do to drop the arm down? Bob Fluharty 95 M3 87 325is Cincinnati ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.

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#6. Re: [E36M3] MP3 capable head unit suggestions? - from Reid Conti
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 00:49:31 -0700 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] MP3 capable head unit suggestions? Seems most CD-based MP3 players do a poor job with ID3 tags and all that.. just makes it harder to find music and such. Can you search CD-based MP3 players yet? Last time I checked, you couldn't, although I wouldn't be surprised if this had changed. There's no reason the player can't index a CD or DVD and store it in RAM just like it has to on a hard drive based player. Honestly, though, for me it comes down to choice. What I hated about single CDs is what I hate about CD changers, which is what I hated about CD-MP3 players, which is what I would hate about DVD-MP3 players -- you have to choose which music to have with you in the car, rather than just having ALL of it to search thru at any time. I love my empeg and my 25 gigs. I probably only listen to a few hundred megs most of the time, but that's the point -- it gives me the choice to listen to any song I want to, any time. Most of you are served just fine by a 6 or 10 cd changer for 90% of your musical wants, but it's the other 10% where the MP3 players really shine, exposing you to music that don't make your top 100 choices, but you enjoy nonetheless. Mostly, though, its about interface. If there was a good DVD-MP3 player that you could actually search and create playlists and the like on, I'm sure most of the hard drive players would go away.. - reid On Sunday, Jul 13, 2003, at 21:41 US/Pacific, Seth Frader-Thompson wrote: > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 00:31:45 -0400 > From: "Seth Frader-Thompson" <fraderth@colorado.edu> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] MP3 capable head unit suggestions? > > What I don't get is why nobody's come out with a head unit that can > play mp3 > DVDs. The DVD-ready players are only meant for playing direct audio > and > video, even when they also support mp3 CDs. Hopefully someone will get > moving on this - who would bother with hard drive-based storage in the > car > if they had an mp3-capable DVD head unit or changer? > > Seth

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Replacement ///M Logo for M Double Spoke II Wheels? - from M540
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 07:32:35 -0400 From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Replacement ///M Logo for M Double Spoke II Wheels? ....Or about $30 on eBay. "RARE L@@K!" -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 19:27:12 -0400 From: "Robert Chay" <rclists@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Replacement ///M Logo for M Double Spoke II Wheels? Part # 36 11 2 228 660. It should be about $3 or so. -Bobby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Bishop" <kbishop371@comcast.net> > > Well it looks like when my new SO-3's were getting mounted onto my OE > wheels, one of the little ///M logo widgets that is glued onto the wheel > near the hub cap got knocked off. > > Does anybody know if that's a replaceable part? Any idea what the p/n is? > > Thanks for the help! > > Kevin >

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#8. Re: [E36M3] MP3 capable head unit suggestions? - from Chris Papademetrious
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:46:00 -0400 From: Chris Papademetrious <chrispy@ieee.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] MP3 capable head unit suggestions? At 02:51 AM 7/14/2003 -0500, Reid Conti wrote: >I love my empeg and my 25 gigs. I probably only listen to a few hundred >megs most of the time, but that's the point -- it gives me the choice to >listen to any song I want to, any time. Most of you are served just fine >by a 6 or 10 cd changer for 90% of your musical wants, but it's the other >10% where the MP3 players really shine, exposing you to music that don't >make your top 100 choices, but you enjoy nonetheless. I have an empeg and I love it. It has literally transformed the way I listen to music in my car. I have 60gb right now, but will be upgrading it to 120gb because my home collection has now grown to 105gb. The only two things preventing me from making a general recommendation for it to the E36 community is: 1) it's discontinued (but you can come by them on Ebay) 2) there's no tuner by default, but there is an integrated add-on tuner with RDS - Chris

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#9. Re: [E36M3] MP3 capable head unit suggestions? - from DocWyte
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 05:57:28 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] MP3 capable head unit suggestions? OK, I have an odd request. I'm currently trying to build up my collection of mp3's and have been asking friends to burn all their mp3's to disk and send them to me. Anyone here care to do that for me? I'll pay for the disks and shipping of course... Drop me an email if you'd like to swap music! -josh --- Chris Papademetrious <chrispy@ieee.org> wrote: > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:46:00 -0400 > From: Chris Papademetrious <chrispy@ieee.org> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] MP3 capable head unit > suggestions? > > At 02:51 AM 7/14/2003 -0500, Reid Conti wrote: > >I love my empeg and my 25 gigs. I probably only > listen to a few hundred > >megs most of the time, but that's the point -- it > gives me the choice to > >listen to any song I want to, any time. Most of > you are served just fine > >by a 6 or 10 cd changer for 90% of your musical > wants, but it's the other > >10% where the MP3 players really shine, exposing > you to music that don't > >make your top 100 choices, but you enjoy > nonetheless. > > I have an empeg and I love it. It has literally > transformed the way I > listen to music in my car. I have 60gb right now, > but will be upgrading it > to 120gb because my home collection has now grown to > 105gb. The only two > things preventing me from making a general > recommendation for it to the E36 > community is: > > 1) it's discontinued (but you can come by them on > Ebay) > 2) there's no tuner by default, but there is an > integrated add-on tuner > with RDS > > - Chris > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain > confidential and > privileged information. If you are not the intended > recipient, > please notify the sender immediately by return > e-mail, delete this > e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or > use of this > information by a person other than the intended > recipient is > unauthorized and may be illegal. ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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#10. Re: Engine Codes - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:42:41 -0400 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Engine Codes In thinking further about this...If the code reading procedure doesn't work, the reason may not be because BMW took the feature out of OBDI. Instead, perhaps there's a problem with the TPS (throttle position sensor), where the full throttle or closed throttle switches do not work. If either one doesn't work, the DME won't get the proper switch signals to go into code display mode. Just a thought.... Ron Buchalski BMWCCA #76387 1995 E36 M3 1993 E34 525iT 1999 Mazda Miata >Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:43:12 -0700 >From: Steve Klein <klein@robinsonad.com> >Subject: Engine Codes > >Hello, Kevin- > In case others haven't replied, with the key in the run position (the >last detent before 'start') you must press FULLY and release >COMPLETELY the pedal within five seconds. It took me several tries >before I could get the rhythm down. I tap briskly, taking about 2.5-3 >sec. total, and that seems to work just fine. I think the biggest thing >to remember is full pedal travel both up and down. > >I hope this helps and good luck! >Steve > >Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:10:12 -0400 >From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: Reading Check Engine Codes - Whats the Trick? > >Some tips to get this to work: > >1) Begin with the ignition off. Turn the ignition to the ON position >2) Within 2-3 seconds of turning the ignition on, begin to press and >release >the accelerator pedal. You need to FULLY depress (to engage the full >throttle switch) and FULLY release (to engage the closed throttle switch) >the accelerator pedal five times, within the span of five seconds. > >I use the old 'football count' cadence to pace the pressing and releasing >of >the accelerator pedal. It goes like this: > >*press* "One thousand" *release* "ONE" >*press* "One thousand" *release* "TWO" >*press* "One thousand" *release* "THREE" >*press* "One thousand" *release* "FOUR" >*press* "One thousand" *release* "FIVE" > >After the fifth release, the CE light should begin flashing within two >seconds. > >This works on both my '93 E34 525iT as well as my '95 M3. > _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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#11. Re: new Brembo rotors are on! - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:49:28 -0400 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: new Brembo rotors are on! I put anti-seize on the center hubs before I install the rotors. I've never had a problem removing the rotors since doing this...even on my E34, which sees year-round duty (rain, salt, snow, etc...) Ron Buchalski BMWCCA #76387 1995 E36 M3 1993 E34 525iT 1999 Mazda Miata >Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 13:23:49 EDT >From: Mdriver13@aol.com >Subject: new Brembo rotors are on! > >Group, > >I'd like to thank everyone who emailed me last week with helpful hints on >removing seven year old, OE, rusted on rotors. Basically what I took away >from >this experience was; > >1) you can follow the Bentley manual to remove all parts leading up to the >final step -- removing the rotors >2) Bentley says, "and remove rotor" ...ha,ha,ha very funny! This is where >true experience from people on this list really pays off <snip> _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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