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#1. RE: E36 Coolant leak - from Mike Frank
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:08:37 -0500 From: "Mike Frank" <mfrank28@comcast.net> Subject: RE: E36 Coolant leak Rob, The same exact thing happened to me a couple of years ago. It was the water pump. HTH, Mike Frank 97 M3 > -------------------- 5 -------------------- > Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:57:44 -0700 > From: "Robert S. Hatrak II" <rshatrakii@earthlink.net> > Subject: E36 Coolant leak > > With all of the talk of over-heating and radiators failing and being > replaced, you all have cursed me! > > I just drove the car home for lunch and parked it in the garage today. > After > lunch, I come out to the car and find it doing a great impression of an > island...surrounded by coolant
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#2. Re: [E36M3] New Model - from Peter Fanning
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:10:34 -0700 From: Peter Fanning <p.fanning@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] New Model As I understand it, the reason BMW didn't build an E46 M3/4 was because they felt it would take too much of the M5 market. It'll be interesting to see how BMW works product placement. Peter Fanning '98 M3/4 At 02:37 PM 7/24/2003 -0500, you wrote: >As long as the 6 costs more than M3 by $10+K, the latter will do just >fine. >The M5 currently stickers at ~$20K above the M3.
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#3. Re: [E36M3] New Model - from John Hovell
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:29:45 -0700 (PDT) From: John Hovell <jhovell@stanford.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] New Model > The current 5 weights 3800+ pounds. 4000+ for the M5. Unladen. > The new 6 will be based on the 5 platform. Traditionally, new platforms > weight more than their predecessors for a numbers of reasons, not least of > which are all the additional electric/safety toys/gizmos. > It would take a miracle for the new 6 to weight at under 3800 #s. Yeah, have you read about in the latest roundel about how the E60 is making extensive use of aluminum (including for parts of the frame, IIRC)? I believe they are trying to keep the weight the same, if not slightly reduce it. Though 3500 does sound like a pipe dream :). I think 3800#'s is realistic though. Oh well, time will tell... - John
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#4. Re: [E36M3] New Model - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:36:04 -0500 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] New Model Peter Fanning <p.fanning@verizon.net> wrote: > > As I understand it, the reason BMW didn't build an E46 M3/4 was because > they felt it would take too much of the M5 market. AFAIK, that's not true. The decision was driven by the mediocre ROI of the E36 4-door variant. > It'll be interesting to see how BMW works product placement. If you ask me, they should discount the E46 M3 to try to 'move' the new 6s ;-) alex f > At 02:37 PM 7/24/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >As long as the 6 costs more than M3 by $10+K, the latter will do just > >fine. > >The M5 currently stickers at ~$20K above the M3.
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#5. Transport Available - next 48 hours - from Jon S.
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:39:00 -0500 From: "Jon S." <treehouse@comcast.net> Subject: Transport Available - next 48 hours All- I have two spots available to carry cars from Tyler Texas to Nashville, Tennessee or surrounding cities if needed. Open trailer traveling east from Texas on Saturday the 26th leaving before 12noon. Please contact by phone or email ASAP if interested. Sorry for the cross posting! Jon@TreehouseRacing.com 615.500.1331
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#6. RE:E36 Coolant leak - from Rick Cardinal
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:13:47 -0400 From: "Rick Cardinal" <cardinar@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE:E36 Coolant leak Rob, How many miles on the hoses etc? I don't of any easy way to find your leak, but I'd start with the upper and lower hoses, then the hoses going into the expansion chamber/ fan shroud. A six year old metal water pump, (depending on miles), is a bit old. I didn't get time to replace my original 67K 8 year old plastic one until it was to late last week. (only had this of several e36's for a couple months). The water pump letting go wouldn't necessarily cause a leak, just an overheat. Does it overheat just idling? It will if the pump is dead. Is your thermostat the original plastic one? These get as brittle as the radiator. You can get an aluminum one for $25. Can you see a leak when the car is running, or is all the coolant out? You could fill it up with water to try and see if where its coming from. Does it overheat? To trace it, I'd start looking at what is wet, and what isn't. Check the lower radiator hose neck as well as the top. If you use BMW coolant, the blue is pretty easy to spot. Start at the top and work your way down. Of course if you ran the car while it was leaking, the fan could have thrown it everywhere. Most likely it's going to be the hoses, expansion chamber, radiator etc. If it was me, and I couldn't see the leak, I'd start pulling everything off..fan shroud, fan, hoses, thermostat etc...Unfortunately I can change all the above in about 90 minutes on my M3 now. Practice makes perfect. I will replace the water pump, hoses every 60k from now on, whether it needs it or not. Good luck, hope it's something simple! Rick '95 M3 -------------------- 5 -------------------- > Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:57:44 -0700 > From: "Robert S. Hatrak II" <rshatrakii@earthlink.net> > Subject: E36 Coolant leak > > With all of the talk of over-heating and radiators failing > and being replaced, you all have cursed me! > > I just drove the car home for lunch and parked it in the > garage today. After lunch, I come out to the car and find it > doing a great impression of an island...surrounded by > coolant. The radiator is relatively new, and I could see no > signs of a failure or a leak at the top side. Does anyone > have any "been there, done that" advice they could share with > me? I'm thinking a hose is possibly failing/letting go > somewhere, or there is a failure at the bottom of the > radiator. Or....it could be the other obvious failures (water > pump, thermostat failing, etc...) Any diagnosis tricks that > I should be aware of? I felt my radiator hose and it was hot as heck. > > The car is a 95 M3 with a 6yr old metal (the good one) water > pump. Roughly 20k mile old radiator. Original hoses, > thermostat, and housing. > > Thanks in advance! > > Rob > > > > > > -
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#7. Argh!!! Hood release broke! - from DocWyte
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:42:35 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Argh!!! Hood release broke! Well, I've been afraid of this ever since I bought the car last September. It's always been very hard to open the hood. Lots of force is required to pull the lever. I greased the hood pins to no avail and a few months ago the dealer played with it. Tonite I was out there installing my RD upper strut brace and the damn lever kinda went "pop" and now I can't open the hood. #$^$&#@!!!!! Any hints on how to open the hood without breaking the grill? Also, anyone else have a RD front upper strut brace? Seems to be a very tight fit up against the underside of the hood. I was surprised at how much clearance there is between the motor and the bottom of the brace vs the top of the brace and the underside of the hood... -josh ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
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#8. FS 98 M3/4 - from carl sewell
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 22:18:52 -0400 From: "carl sewell" <jzy308@adelphia.net> Subject: FS 98 M3/4 Sorry for the error in previous post. VIN s/b: WBSCD9321WEE08811. pls see below: 1998 M3 Sedan VIN WBSCD9321WEE08811, cosmo black/black lthr; 44k miles, Rogue short shift, Euro head lights, one owner, dealer maintained, all records, never tracked or autoxd $25,000 obo, Carl: 434-244-2752; Jzy308@adelphia.net (VA)
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Gunked ABS sensors? Reposting etc. - from daanesh chanduwadia
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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 03:07:16 -0400 From: "daanesh chanduwadia" <daanesh@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Gunked ABS sensors? Reposting etc. Alex, A few things: The ABS on M3s is different than that on E36 cars. At least that was the case on the 95s. Unlike the standard E36's systems, designed like most to help with foul weather performance, the M version allows more lockup and slower pulses to optimize *dry* braking. The first M3s I saw at the track would have their tires sliding/protesting more braking at the end of the straight at the old Gateway track than standard E36s on similar rubber. ABS does not pulse all four wheels together. As others have mentioned, the 4 channel system is on all ASC+T (as opposed to earlier ASC) equipped cars (you need to brake wheels individually for the brake portion of the traction control). My experience with the old GM dual circuit crap leads me believe that less than 3 channels is downright frightening. BMW has used lightweight panels for the 6 (hood, fenders, and trunk IIRC) so it should be lighter than the new 5, which is - as unlikely as this may seem - LIGHTER! than the old 5 thanks largely to an aluminum front structure. Given so many are aware than the next M5 will have a 500+hp V10 but few notice the reduction in curb weight, it's obvious why increasing horsepower will always come before lowering weight. The M3 has low profile tires because marketing mandated it, and to retain some modicum of ride quality the suspension had to allow compliance to make up for the lack of it in the sidewall. When you combine soft springing with the mass of wheels/tires/brakes up to the task, the wheel assembly is bound to be unweighted, the contact patch shrinks, wheel speed drops rapidly, and the ABS computer panics. Fitting floating rotors (or lighter wheels/tires) helps. As you noted, one can't underestimate how much fresh shocks (but if we're talking aftermarket/adjustable shocks, too much rebound damping does not). -Daanesh Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:06:39 -0500 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Gunked ABS sensors? Reposting "Lowell, That's all fine and dandy, but ABS sensors do not measure traction. They measure the wheel rotation speed. If a wheel locks up, its rotation speed decreases prompting ABS's intervention. However, when going over a bump/pot hole, the wheel speed should not change much, and if anything slightly INcrease. And that is something that can be accounted for in the ABS brain coding. We are talking about ABS kicking during the mildest of breaking on rough surfaces. I suspect everyone on this list knows what I'm talking about. Even if road imperfections cause momentary decrease of traction, those should not result in lock up. During hard/near-threshold breaking, a bump could reduce traction enough to induce lock up. But assuming a preceding wheel acceleration, it could be coded around in the ABS brain as well. AFAIK, once triggered, ABS engages all channels (four wheels) regardless of which one was detected locked up. Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:10:34 -0500 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] New Model ....The current 5 weights 3800+ pounds. 4000+ for the M5. Unladen. The new 6 will be based on the 5 platform. Traditionally, new platforms weight more than their predecessors for a numbers of reasons, not least of which are all the additional electric/safety toys/gizmos. It would take a miracle for the new 6 to weight at under 3800 #s... Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:56:17 -0500 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Gunked ABS sensors? Reposting ....in our cars, ABS comes out blazing even under the lightest of brake applications over bumpy roads. The tire hardly ever becomes airborne. That is if your cars has half-ass functional shocks. I can gladly postulate that come off the bump the tire momentarily looses some of the traction. But not all. And under light braking, that should not engage the ABS. Unless it is either miscalibrated or purposely coded to engage every time the driver sneezes.Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Argh!!! Hood release broke! - from Steve Stoner
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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:34:21 -0400 From: Steve Stoner <sstoner@treev.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Argh!!! Hood release broke! Josh Writes: <<Seems to be a very tight fit up against the underside of the hood. I was surprised at how much clearance there is between the motor and the bottom of the brace vs the top of the brace and the underside of the hood...>>> Josh, the fit appears snug, but what will happen is that the hood lining will conform to the strut bar and you'll end up with an impression in the hood liner. It will look "factory molded" after a while. At least that's my experience. Steve Stoner -