E36M3 #3279

Sunday, July 27, 2003 15:46:05

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re:Airbag Light Info & Question - from Joe Tan
#2. RE: [E36M3] New Model - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
#3. RE: RE: [E36M3] New Model - from Mel Silva
#4. Changing tires changes alignment. Help requested. - from Zachary Eyler-Walker
#5. E36/4 sales (was New Model) - from Bruce
#6. Re: [E36M3] Changing tires changes alignment. Help requested. - from Jeremy Lucas
#7. Headliner successfully removed from 95 coupe - from Richard Dahlka
#8. Q's about wiring resistors and load... - from DocWyte
#9. Re: [E36M3] Q's about wiring resistors and load... - from Chris Papademetrious
#10. Re: [E36M3] Q's about wiring resistors and load... - from DocWyte

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#1. Re:Airbag Light Info & Question - from Joe Tan
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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 09:09:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Tan <mailjtan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re:Airbag Light Info & Question The $50 is most likely for the CPO deductible. Chances are, your factory warranty expired and your CPO warranty kicked in. Now you will have a $50 deductible for any warranty work done at the dealer. Joe --------------------------- When I went to pick up the car they said that since, it was the same item as before, they did not charge me the $50 deductible. Does anyone know what the "$50 deductible" is about? ( I didn't have time to discuss the matter further and they were closing.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

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#2. RE: [E36M3] New Model - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 14:08:20 -0500 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] New Model Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> wrote: > > At 03:57 PM 7/25/2003 -0500, Mel Silva wrote: > > >Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:36:04 -0500 > > >From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com > > > > > >Peter Fanning <p.fanning@verizon.net> wrote: > > >> > > >> As I understand it, the reason BMW didn't build an E46 M3/4 was > > >> because they felt it would take too much of the M5 market. > > > > > >AFAIK, that's not true. > > >The decision was driven by the mediocre ROI of the E36 4-door variant. > > > > > > >If this is true (the ROI on M3/4), It could be that it is because > >BMW did not make more of these with manual gear boxes. > > > Hmmm, I thought they sold more M3/4's than regular M3's the two years > they were produced. Rex, I believe you are correct. Alas volume != profit. alex f

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#3. RE: RE: [E36M3] New Model - from Mel Silva
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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 14:27:50 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: RE: [E36M3] New Model Makes me feel like less of an outcast then. Thanks for restoring my sense of worth... Okay, I am being MELodramatic now. I'm very happy with my M3/4, I like having the extra two doors just to toss my laptop back there, even if I can't seem to fit the rear-facing car seat back there. Oh, well. My daughter will just have to wait until she can sit forward-facing before she can ride in "daddy's M3". Mel -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:37 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: RE: [E36M3] New Model Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:31:30 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: RE: [E36M3] New Model At 03:57 PM 7/25/03, Michael Lawrence wrote: >Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:52:44 -0400 >From: "Michael Lawrence" <95m3ltw@comcast.net> >Subject: Re: RE: [E36M3] New Model > >Another Myth, US market persuaded BMW to build a 4dr M3, when in fact >Europe had one before we did. I think they were offered in Europe starting >in 94 or 95. Sounds about right - there are UK sales figures in the "3 Series Enthusiast's Companion" for 1995 & 1996 (pg 302). Also according to the "Companion" the sedans out-sold the coupes in calendar years 1997 & 1998 (pgs 249, 250). From page 298, US sales: 1997: Coupes - 3405, Sedans - 4535 1998: Coupes - 2661, Sedans - 3225 My 2 cents, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.

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#4. Changing tires changes alignment.  Help requested. - from Zachary Eyler-Walker
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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:38:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Zachary Eyler-Walker <zwalker@cs.utk.edu> Subject: Changing tires changes alignment. Help requested. An irritating story: I hear a clicking noise as I'm driving along, coming from the rear, which naturally turns out to be a nail in an unpatchable spot on my rear left tire. Great. Later I go home and move the front wheels to the rears (235/40 17, 7.5" wheels) and put on the front some cruddy old, rock hard pilot mxx3s that came with a new set of wheels I bought (225/45 17, 7.5" wheels). I go for a spin to make sure I put everything back together right (did some rear brake work, too), and everything seems fine EXCEPT that in order to go straight, I now have to turn the steering wheel about 15 degrees counterclockwise. Wtf? I can think of two major possibilities: One, the front tires I bought are somehow worn differently enough to change how the car tracks. I really hope this is it, but there's nothing obviously different about the new front tires. The difference must be pretty big, since the wheel is turned quite a bit. Two, I bent something, or something broke, and I'm screwed. I changed the wheels by using one of those HF jacks to lift the whole side of the car up from first one rear jack point and then the other. That's the only thing I did that could possibly have tweaked anything in the front. Anyone ever heard of jacking the car like this causing a problem? I can't imagine why it would, but this is just too weird. Any thoughts appreciated. I guess my next step will be to swap the front wheels left to right and see if the car tracks straight when the wheel is turned clockwise instead of counterclockwise. Anything else I should try? Thanks, Zach

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#5. E36/4 sales (was New Model) - from Bruce
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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 20:39:21 -0500 From: "Bruce" <gobuffs93@comcast.net> Subject: E36/4 sales (was New Model) > > > >AFAIK, that's not true. > > > >The decision was driven by the mediocre ROI of the E36 4-door variant. > > > > > > > > > >If this is true (the ROI on M3/4), It could be that it is because BMW did > > >not make more of these with manual gear boxes. > > > > > > Hmmm, I thought they sold more M3/4's than regular M3's the two years they > > were produced. > True on all accounts. Yes the sedan sold in more numbers than the coupe (55% vs 45% IIRC) HOWEVER the profit margin was significantly less on the sedan than the coupe as BMW NA HEAVILY subsidized the leases of the sedans. (Source BMW NA product manager- not M brand manager though) Bruce 89 M3 2.5 95 M3 (getting new springs and shocks tomorrow!)

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Changing tires changes alignment.  Help requested. - from Jeremy Lucas
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Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 07:50:48 -0400 From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Changing tires changes alignment. Help requested. No, you didn't bend something by jacking up the car. Did you unbolt anything other than the wheels and the rear brake calipers? Jeremy Lucas 95M3 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachary Eyler-Walker" <zwalker@cs.utk.edu> > front. Anyone ever heard of jacking the car like this causing a problem?

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#7. Headliner successfully removed from 95 coupe - from Richard Dahlka
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Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:39:38 -0400 From: "Richard Dahlka" <rickd@swfla.rr.com> Subject: Headliner successfully removed from 95 coupe Weeks ago the cement securing the cloth to the headliner failed resulting in a drooping affair around the sunroof gasket. Today, and with no help from Bentley, a friend and I extracted the liner which included removal of the A, B, C pillar trim, both visors and their associated connections, entry handles, C pillar lights, seat belt slide clips, and sunroof motor harnesses. It then became quite a puzzle to tip, tilt, and otherwise cajole the thing out of there once we slipped it out of the retaining gaskets. In the end, it had to be slightly flexed to pass through the door. We then proceeded to re-attach all the parts (visors, motor harnesses, sunroof switch, etc.) with zip-strips (or their original hardware) so as to maintain a functional interior while the work of recovering is completed. The interior now looks like the Terminator without his skin. The silver lining in this cloud will be Alcantara cloth for the retro-deux! That job, I'm farming out.

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#8. Q's about wiring resistors and load... - from DocWyte
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Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:14:41 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Q's about wiring resistors and load... Hey guys, In a few days I'm going to be removing my factory steering wheel and putting in a momo. I have the necessary harness to plug into the stock airbag stuff and I know what resistance I need to give it to fool the SRS brain. However, I can't find a 1/2 watt 3.3 ohm resistor. I have found 1/2 watt 10 ohm resistors. Here's my question. If I wire 3 of these 10 ohm resistors in line (1-2-3) I end up with a total resistance of 3.3 ohms, right? Please help the electrically challenged! :-) -josh PS: If I have this totally wrong, can someone point me to a place to buy a 1/2 watt 3.3 ohm resistor? ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Q's about wiring resistors and load... - from Chris Papademetrious
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Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:58:26 -0400 From: Chris Papademetrious <chrispy@ieee.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Q's about wiring resistors and load... At 02:15 PM 7/27/2003 -0500, DocWyte wrote: >However, I can't find a 1/2 watt 3.3 ohm resistor. I >have found 1/2 watt 10 ohm resistors. > >Here's my question. If I wire 3 of these 10 ohm >resistors in line (1-2-3) I end up with a total >resistance of 3.3 ohms, right? > >Please help the electrically challenged! :-) Josh, If you put resistors in series, the resistances add up. Each resistor contributes a voltage drop (ie - "resistance") in succession, which add up using simple addition. This is not what you want to do. If you have parallel resistors, the math is a little more complex. You've now just given the current multiple paths to flow through in parallel, and the effective resistance is less than any of the three resistors. This makes sense when you consider that no matter how easy current flows through a resistor, there are other parallel paths which can only make it easier. Just as resistances add in series, conductances add in parallel. Conductance is simply the reciprocal of resistance, and the reciprocal of a number N is simply calculated as 1/N. To calculate parallel resistances, just add up all the reciprocals of the resistor values you're using, then take the reciprocal of that addition result. So if you were to combine three 10ohm resistors in PARALLEL: Reffective = 1 / [ (1/10) + (1/10) + (1/10) ] = 3.33ohm (Differerent types of brackets were used for clarity.) In this case, since three resistors would be dissipating equal amounts of power, you'd have triple the power dissipation of a single resistor - barring such issues as having heatshrink/tape around the bundle, having them in close proximity with each other, etc. I hope this helps! - Chris

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Q's about wiring resistors and load... - from DocWyte
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Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:40:21 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Q's about wiring resistors and load... Chris, Thanks for the help! If I understand what you're saying, rather than wiring them up serially (1-2-3), what I want to do is bundle them all up like so: * Main wire in ----- * ----- Main wire out * Where the "*" are the resistors. Correct? In essence, splicing all three together in between the main wire path... -josh --- Chris Papademetrious <chrispy@ieee.org> wrote: > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:58:26 -0400 > From: Chris Papademetrious <chrispy@ieee.org> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Q's about wiring resistors and > load... > > At 02:15 PM 7/27/2003 -0500, DocWyte wrote: > >However, I can't find a 1/2 watt 3.3 ohm resistor. > I > >have found 1/2 watt 10 ohm resistors. > > > >Here's my question. If I wire 3 of these 10 ohm > >resistors in line (1-2-3) I end up with a total > >resistance of 3.3 ohms, right? > > > >Please help the electrically challenged! :-) > > Josh, > > If you put resistors in series, the resistances add > up. Each resistor > contributes a voltage drop (ie - "resistance") in > succession, which add up > using simple addition. This is not what you want to > do. > > If you have parallel resistors, the math is a little > more complex. You've > now just given the current multiple paths to flow > through in parallel, and > the effective resistance is less than any of the > three resistors. This > makes sense when you consider that no matter how > easy current flows through > a resistor, there are other parallel paths which can > only make it easier. > > Just as resistances add in series, conductances add > in > parallel. Conductance is simply the reciprocal of > resistance, and the > reciprocal of a number N is simply calculated as > 1/N. To calculate > parallel resistances, just add up all the > reciprocals of the resistor > values you're using, then take the reciprocal of > that addition result. So > if you were to combine three 10ohm resistors in > PARALLEL: > > Reffective = 1 / [ (1/10) + (1/10) + (1/10) ] = > 3.33ohm > > (Differerent types of brackets were used for > clarity.) In this case, since > three resistors would be dissipating equal amounts > of power, you'd have > triple the power dissipation of a single resistor - > barring such issues as > having heatshrink/tape around the bundle, having > them in close proximity > with each other, etc. > > I hope this helps! > > - Chris > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain > confidential and > privileged information. If you are not the intended > recipient, > please notify the sender immediately by return > e-mail, delete this > e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or > use of this > information by a person other than the intended > recipient is > unauthorized and may be illegal. ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

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