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#1. Re: [E36M3] Warranty Gold problems -- another thread - from Michael Lawrence
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 16:23:31 -0400 From: "Michael Lawrence" <95m3ltw@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Warranty Gold problems -- another thread What Toyota did you have that needed a Extended warranty? thought that only applied to European/American cars lol Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "DocWyte" <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> > Rex, you hit it on the head of the nail. > > That's exactly what I meant. I once had an extended > warranty through Toyota,
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Warranty Gold problems -- another thread - from DocWyte
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 13:45:37 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Warranty Gold problems -- another thread It was actually on a used Mitsubishi Turbo that I bought from the Toyota dealership. -josh --- Michael Lawrence <95m3ltw@comcast.net> wrote: > Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 16:23:31 -0400 > From: "Michael Lawrence" <95m3ltw@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Warranty Gold problems -- > another thread > > What Toyota did you have that needed a Extended > warranty? thought that only > applied to European/American cars lol > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DocWyte" <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> > > Rex, you hit it on the head of the nail. > > > > That's exactly what I meant. I once had an > extended > > warranty through Toyota, > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain > confidential and > privileged information. If you are not the intended > recipient, > please notify the sender immediately by return > e-mail, delete this > e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or > use of this > information by a person other than the intended > recipient is > unauthorized and may be illegal. ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Warranty Gold problems -- another thread - from Michael Lawrence
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 16:52:04 -0400 From: "Michael Lawrence" <95m3ltw@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Warranty Gold problems -- another thread Very smart move then. I dont know what it is about Mitsubishi, but they are by far the most common make that I see burning oil or sitting on the side of the road. I know the turbo motor is supposedly a good motor, but their plain jane stuff must be awful. Out of any car that I tend to notice constantly smoking, failing etc on the road. It was either 86-87 Buick Grand Nationals/T Types with blown head gaskets. Saw about 10 or so in the late 80s on interstates. Or any flavor Mitsubishi, of any time frame. A trip thru Atlanta is not possible without getting behind one that is burning a quart per mile. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "DocWyte" <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Warranty Gold problems -- another thread > Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 13:45:37 -0700 (PDT) > From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Warranty Gold problems -- another thread > > It was actually on a used Mitsubishi Turbo that I > bought from the Toyota dealership. > > -josh > > --- Michael Lawrence <95m3ltw@comcast.net> wrote: > > Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 16:23:31 -0400 > > From: "Michael Lawrence" <95m3ltw@comcast.net> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Warranty Gold problems -- > > another thread > > > > What Toyota did you have that needed a Extended > > warranty? thought that only > > applied to European/American cars lol > > > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "DocWyte" <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> > > > Rex, you hit it on the head of the nail. > > > > > > That's exactly what I meant. I once had an > > extended > > > warranty through Toyota, > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > > sponsors: > > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain > > confidential and > > privileged information. If you are not the intended > > recipient, > > please notify the sender immediately by return > > e-mail, delete this > > e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or > > use of this > > information by a person other than the intended > > recipient is > > unauthorized and may be illegal. > > > ===== > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and > privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, > please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this > e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this > information by a person other than the intended recipient is > unauthorized and may be illegal.
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#4. RE: M3 stumbling on start up - from Jeremy Conners
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:04:02 -0400 From: "Jeremy Conners" <jeremy.conners@comcast.net> Subject: RE: M3 stumbling on start up Evan, I think it is inherent in the ECU on the OBDII cars (i.e. the way it handles open loop). IIRC, the 95 OBDI cars had a different brand ECU. OBDI cars used the Siemens DME and the OBDII cars used the Bosch DME. The companies probably use different algorithms during open loop control. I typically wait until the idle smoothes before 'rolling out'. Sometimes if I find she's still acting funny after a minute or two of driving, I 'reboot' the car (key off and restart). I'm curious if the JimC tuned OBDII cars exhibit this phenomenon. Unfortunately I do not own JimC s/w yet. Any data points out there? I'm just wondering if JimC is aware of / has addressed this issue. Maybe JimC himself has some input... Jeremy -----Original Message----- From: eevans@planetc.com [mailto:eevans@planetc.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:03 PM To: jeremy.conners@comcast.net Subject: M3 stumbling on start up Hi Jeremy, Count me in as a ME TOO on this problem. I have (3) M3s, 2 '99s and a '95. The '95 starts and runs like a dream on start up. Both the '99s experience the same "stumbling" characteristics as you describe. If you find a definitive answer to this ? please, please forward me a copy. It's so predictable on BOTH '99s that it has to be something inherent about the OBD ll cars, but what?? Once the stumbling goes away the car runs and starts hot like a champ. I hope it's not another "they all do that" answer like the 55 mph vibration on all E21 320i cars from '77 to '83, ask me how I know ;-). TIA Evan
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#5. RE: [E36M3] RE: M3 stumbling on start up - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 18:00:19 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: M3 stumbling on start up > I'm curious if the JimC tuned OBDII cars exhibit this phenomenon. > Unfortunately I do not own JimC s/w yet. Any data points out there? > I'm > just wondering if JimC is aware of / has addressed this issue. Maybe > JimC > himself has some input... My car (1998 M3/4 w/JimC SW & intake) does at times exhibit the stumbling at start-up. I seem to recall there being a BMW fix for this, and I'm fairly sure JimC was aware of it as well, incorporated it into his SW, and that's the version I have. But this was 4+ years ago, so who knows what I remember :-) Basically, my data point is: OBD-II, JimC SW, stumbles occasionally. My 2 cents, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP/A5
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#6. RE: [E36M3] RE: M3 stumbling on start up - from =?iso-8859-1?q?Zack=20Steinkamp?=
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 18:26:08 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Zack=20Steinkamp?= <edsarkiss@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: M3 stumbling on start up with a 50/50 mix of 100 octane union 76 "race gas" and standard calicrap 91 there is no stumbling on startup -- even on cold mornings. after filling up with 91, the stumble came back. -zs --- Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 18:00:19 -0700 > From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: M3 stumbling on start up > > > I'm curious if the JimC tuned OBDII cars exhibit > this phenomenon. > > Unfortunately I do not own JimC s/w yet. Any data > points out there? > > I'm > > just wondering if JimC is aware of / has addressed > this issue. Maybe > > JimC > > himself has some input... > > My car (1998 M3/4 w/JimC SW & intake) does at times > exhibit the stumbling at start-up. I seem to recall > there being a BMW fix for this, and I'm fairly sure > JimC was aware of it as well, incorporated it into > his SW, and that's the version I have. > > But this was 4+ years ago, so who knows what I > remember :-) > > Basically, my data point is: OBD-II, JimC SW, > stumbles occasionally. > > My 2 cents, > Jim Bassett > 1998 M3/4 > 1993 325is #44 JP/A5 > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain > confidential and > privileged information. If you are not the intended > recipient, > please notify the sender immediately by return > e-mail, delete this > e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or > use of this > information by a person other than the intended > recipient is > unauthorized and may be illegal.
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Cluncking Noise Upon Steering Turn - from Dave Spragg
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 23:26:02 -0400 From: "Dave Spragg" <david.spragg@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Cluncking Noise Upon Steering Turn Motor mounts? Once they get bad you can hear it good when you go over a bump like the one just before the braking zone into the uphill at LRP. :) Dave Spragg dave@spragg.com 99 M3 street 92 318is #330 IP (95 M3 engine and suspension) -----Original Message----- From: Ahmad Lutfeali [mailto:m3_racer99@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 2:38 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Cluncking Noise Upon Steering Turn Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 14:28:20 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Cluncking Noise Upon Steering Turn Hello everyone, I have this strange symptom develop over the last 2 weeks. I had replaced the front tie rods and after 3 weeks, I hear these clunks (they are loud) when I turn the steering. Even when it is still, I would turn the steering left to right and vice versa and the clunking noise is there. I went under the car and checked the control arms, tie rods and sway bar links. They all seem to be in place. Prior to the tie rods, I have new control arms with bushings, shocks and springs. Any suggestions/input? Thanks in advance. Ahmad PS: yeah and on top of that, my new rotors with 6 days have spider cracks already :(
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#8. untill, das wir wieder treffen - from carl sewell
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 23:31:33 -0400 From: "carl sewell" <jzy308@adelphia.net> Subject: untill, das wir wieder treffen Gruppe: My 98 M3/4 went out the driveway today with a guy who appreciates BMW as much, or more than, I do. Made it a little easier, but not much. When you find something that supplies, so well, all that is expected, it is a marvelous relationship. It was a memorable experience, and one I shant forget. That JZY308 found a meritorious home is solace. In 10 days a new 330Ipp will be here, a little easier on the tailbone but I rue the ass kick. And Suzy’s list has been an enjoyable and rewarding experience. If there is any thing out there comparable for the E46, I welcome direction. carl
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#9. Fluidyne radiator install - from David Hogg
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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 08:02:48 -0400 From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> Subject: Fluidyne radiator install FWIW, I just had one put in the track car and it was indeed an easy drop-in. Everything fits, and it works fine (wrung it out at Summit yesterday) with just distilled water and 2 bottles of Water Wetter. Can't tell you if it actually cools better than stock, but it's sure reassuring to see the hoses attach to those hefty metal collars instead of to the 8-year-old OEM plastic ones (can you say "borrowed time"?). Biggest disappointment: the Fluidyne is a work of art but you can't really see it once it's in. Too bad. Dave Hogg '95 I-Stock #20
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#10. Re: [E36M3] RE: M3 stumbling on start up - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 06:05:24 -0700 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@cdsnet.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: M3 stumbling on start up I had the same problem on my '97 when I first bought it (used). I read somewhere about a more current version of the DME (?) software. I believe there's a TSB on it. Next time I had it in for a service, I had the dealer upgrade it. I think they said ver. 24 but not sure. That solved the problem for me. I've since sharked it and still have no problems. I can start and go. Jay At 07:07 PM 8/8/03 -0500, you wrote: >Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:04:02 -0400 >From: "Jeremy Conners" <jeremy.conners@comcast.net> >Subject: RE: M3 stumbling on start up > >Evan, > >I think it is inherent in the ECU on the OBDII cars (i.e. the way it handles >open loop). IIRC, the 95 OBDI cars had a different brand ECU. OBDI cars >used the Siemens DME and the OBDII cars used the Bosch DME. The companies >probably use different algorithms during open loop control. > >I typically wait until the idle smoothes before 'rolling out'. Sometimes if >I find she's still acting funny after a minute or two of driving, I 'reboot' >the car (key off and restart). > >I'm curious if the JimC tuned OBDII cars exhibit this phenomenon. >Unfortunately I do not own JimC s/w yet. Any data points out there? I'm >just wondering if JimC is aware of / has addressed this issue. Maybe JimC >himself has some input... > >Jeremy > >-----Original Message----- >From: eevans@planetc.com [mailto:eevans@planetc.com] >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:03 PM >To: jeremy.conners@comcast.net >Subject: M3 stumbling on start up > > >Hi Jeremy, > >Count me in as a ME TOO on this problem. I have (3) M3s, 2 '99s and a '95. >The '95 starts and runs like a dream on start up. Both the '99s experience >the same "stumbling" characteristics as you describe. If you find a >definitive answer to this ? please, please forward me a copy. It's so >predictable on BOTH '99s that it has to be something inherent about the OBD >ll cars, but what?? Once the stumbling goes away the car runs and starts >hot like a champ. I hope it's not another "they all do that" answer like >the 55 mph vibration on all E21 320i cars from '77 to '83, ask me how I >know ;-). > >TIA > >Evan > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > >This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and >privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, >please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this >e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this >information by a person other than the intended recipient is >unauthorized and may be illegal. >