E36M3 #3371

Friday, September 12, 2003 12:40:36

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#1. RE: help me pick out some wheels - from AVUSM3@aol.com
#2. Re: Rebuilt calipers - from JAKE DAVIS
#3. Wheel Purchases - from Robert Manger
#4. M Coupe = Modern day E30 M3 - from Dorffer, Rich
#5. Euro motors in US street cars...possible? - from Dorffer, Rich
#6. Can you run 245-40-17 tires on the front... - from Luis Rueda
#7. Re: [E36M3] M Coupe = Modern day E30 M3 - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
#8. M50 Motor FS - from ROWERS41@aol.com
#9. FS: Blanton-built 3.23 limited slip diff with 75% lockup for E36 M3 - from Michael Gilbert
#10. Re:Euro motors in US street cars...possible? - from Kit Wetzler

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#1. RE: help me pick out some wheels - from AVUSM3@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:11:54 EDT From: AVUSM3@aol.com Subject: RE: help me pick out some wheels Dave - I have 2 sets of RKs and like them very much. They are a great wheel for the money, probably the best value out there. You can run 235s or 245s all around with no spacers. The main reason to go with the SSRs is for the 8.5" width - which opens up a few other choices in R compounds. I recently sold 1 set of RKs and replaced them with a set of SSR Comps just for the added width. Shedding a few pounds didn't hurt either! We'll see how long they last.... John Cloutier Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:42:56 -0700 From: "David Flanary" <dflanary@markhamvineyards.com> Subject: Help me pick out some wheels... Josh: I'm in the same boat as you... I need new tires soon and am going to buy 4 of the same size wheels to get rid of the staggered stock set-up on my '99. Using the same size all around will allow rotation of tires, which will lead to longer tire life, which in time will help pay for the wheels. :) As it is, my Bilstein/H&R sport set up has about -1.5 camber which tends to wear the insides down faster, so rotation would be a good thing. I am leaning toward BBS RK wheels. The reasons: 1. Light weight - only 16.5# each in 17x8" 2. low cost (relatively speaking at $288 from Tire Rack) I believe I can run these w 235/40 or 245/40 without spacers (I will buy Toyo Proxes T-1S with the wheels). The local BMWCCA chief instructor advises 245's. I have heard the SSR's bend very easily and s/b track wheels only (ie not potholes to run over). Dave

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#2. Re: Rebuilt calipers - from JAKE DAVIS
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 08:11:08 -0500 From: "JAKE DAVIS" <jakeadavis@msn.com> Subject: Re: Rebuilt calipers Are the calipers for the E36 M3 actually the same as those on the 540? Jake Davis

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#3. Wheel Purchases - from Robert Manger
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:44:43 -0400 From: "Robert Manger" <Robert_Manger@Mastercard.com> Subject: Wheel Purchases With all this talk about people purchasing new/upgraded wheels if anyone needs to part with a set of the polished forged wheels and needs the funds to expedite the new purchase I'll be willing to help out. =-) Rob

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#4. M Coupe = Modern day E30 M3 - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:56:22 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: M Coupe = Modern day E30 M3 > The M Coupe shares the same front end (susp, brakes etc) as the E36 M3 > (from my understanding, the difference between E36 M3's front susp. and > E30 M3's front susp = zip/none) and shares the rear end from the E30 M3. Bzzzttt. Hmm, not sure where you get your information, but the control arms (both the steel and the aluminum ones) on the E30 M3 are different than those on the E36 M3, the control arm bushings are different, the brake calipers are different, the struts are different, the strut bearings are different and I am pretty sure the spindles are different, etc. I am willing to bet that they don't share one single part. For that matter, some of the parts on the E36 M3 are even different amongst the model years (like the control arms, the control arm bushings, the strut bearings, etc. Also, the rear end of the M Coupe has many differences from an E30 M3 but it does share its roots and some of its basic geometry with the E30 M3 (and all E30s for that matter). > Given it may have some more weight that the E30 (maybe a smaller > wheelbase?), does it drive like an E30 M3 (or comparable)? Can I > conclude that it's a modern day E30 M3? In my opinion, and I have limited seat experience in both, they are different animals. I would not conclude that it is a modern day E30 M3. Regards, Rich

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#5. Euro motors in US street cars...possible? - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:58:37 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Euro motors in US street cars...possible? > In case you haven't seen it, the latest Roundel has an article that compares > three generations of M3s (E30, E36, & E46), each of which has been modified > to some extent by their owners. Not that great of an article IMO. > The thing that caught my eye is that the '95 E36 M3 has a Euro 3.0 liter > motor -- complete with 286HP output, etc... Pretty sure that is Alan Taur's car, which was for sale last I knew. > I thought that going to a Euro motor meant you basically had a track car due > to emissions problems and other headaches, but this was in a car licensed in > California for the street. Yes, it pretty much does as you would no longer be in compliance with Federal emissions requirements. > Any thoughts on how this is possible or is the car in question just managing > to sneak by emissions inspections and in trouble when it's caught? I would say it is slipping by. What is that saying, "it isn't illegal unless you get caught". Regards, Rich

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#6. Can you run 245-40-17 tires on the front... - from Luis Rueda
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:39:19 -0400 From: "Luis Rueda" <Luis_Rueda@Interliant.com> Subject: Can you run 245-40-17 tires on the front... Josh, I don't have the same setup as you do but I'm running 17x8 SSR Integrals all around w/245-40-17 Yoko AVS intermediates on my '95 M3 (Bilstein sports w/stock springs). I hope this helps. Good luck, Luis -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:22:08 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Can you run 245-40-17 tires on the front... Of a '95 M3 with -2 camber and eibach pro kit springs with no rubbing? Wheels will most likely be SSR Comps 17x8.5 offset 42mm Thanks! -josh

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#7. Re: [E36M3] M Coupe = Modern day E30 M3 - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:56:42 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] M Coupe = Modern day E30 M3 Rich repies to Ahmad: > >The M Coupe shares the same front end (susp, brakes etc) as the E36 M3 > >(from my understanding, the difference between E36 M3's front susp. and > >E30 M3's front susp = zip/none) and shares the rear end from the E30 M3. > > Bzzzttt. > I think that was a typo on Ahmad's part. I think he meant to compare the M Coupe's front suspension to the E36 M3 and the M Coupe's rear suspension to the E30 M3. If you are comparing the M Coupe front to the E36 M3 front, then yes, much of what he said is true. They are very similar. I'll agree with you. Overall the M Coupe is no E30 M3. The main distinction of the M Coupe from the E36 M3 is its lighter weight. It is still not as light as the E30 M3 but somewhat lighter than the E36 M3. Lowell Seaton '95 M3

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#8. M50 Motor FS - from ROWERS41@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:33:18 -0400 From: ROWERS41@aol.com Subject: M50 Motor FS Early 2.5 liter M50 NON-Vanos 208,000 miles Korman modified head Schrick intake cam M3 exhaust cam Missing intake manifold, coils (needing replacement anyway), and oil pan (e34 style) $900 obo Engine is in Va. and needs to be sold asap. Contact me directly rowers41@aol.com

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#9. FS: Blanton-built 3.23 limited slip diff with 75% lockup for E36 M3 - from Michael Gilbert
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:47:10 -0400 From: "Michael Gilbert" <michael.gilbert4@comcast.net> Subject: FS: Blanton-built 3.23 limited slip diff with 75% lockup for E36 M3 I am thinking about getting a taller diff for my IP racecar and will sell my current diff. It's a Blanton-built 3.23 limited slip diff with 75% lockup for my 97 E36 M3. It has been fantastic at getting the power down out of corners and on bumpy tracks (all of them). I am looking to get around $1800 plus shipping from 01760 for it - please let me know if you're interested or need more information. Regards, Mike michael.gilbert2@comcast.net 97 M3 IP #121

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#10. Re:Euro motors in US street cars...possible? - from Kit Wetzler
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:36:25 -0700 From: Kit Wetzler <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: Re:Euro motors in US street cars...possible? > The thing that caught my eye is that the '95 E36 M3 has a Euro 3.0 liter > motor -- complete with 286HP output, etc... Doh! that car is formerly Alan Taur's, and has the S50b32 Euro, in other words, the 3.2l 321hp motor. It drops right in, with a euro DME, and about a billion wiring changes, EWS hassles, and somewhere between a lot and a left arm in cash for spare parts, etc. In this case, the install looked factory, a smog tech would really have to know what they are doing to notice. Most wouldn't know a throttle body from a kick in the arse. -kit

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