E36M3 #3387

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 20:00:42

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Traffic Ticket - from david tow
#2. Cam Kit time - from James Clay
#3. Re: M3 radiator R/R writeup - from John Hovell
#4. Re: [E36M3] Traffic Ticket - from Michael Lawrence
#5. Re: [E36M3] Can I flip kumhos? - from Mdriver13@aol.com
#6. Re: [E36M3] Can I flip kumhos? - from ChuckBrazeau@aol.com
#7. RE: [E36M3] Re: M3 radiator R/R writeup - from Dames, Mark
#8. RE: [E36M3] Re: M3 radiator R/R writeup - from John Hovell
#9. RE: [E36M3] Traffic Ticket - from K.C. Boyce
#10. Front Windsheild Replacement - from Venkata Yella

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Traffic Ticket - from david tow
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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:22:05 -0700 From: "david tow" <david_tow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Traffic Ticket Bob, I will keep the digesters posted. I saw a similar tactic in court when I was fighting for a ticket about 15 years, that gentleman unfortunately lost his case. I guess it depends on how good and convincing your argument is. David >From: "B Stoll" <bobstoll@ameritech.net> >To: "david tow" <david_tow@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Traffic Ticket >Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:29:18 -0500 > >Hi David, > >I sent this off-list, >But I am interested in hearing the collective wisdom of those on this list, >esp. with legal background. > >A friend of mine in Detroit, fought a ticket. >Before his court date, he supeona'd <sp?> the cop, asking for the make and >model of radar gun, date of last calibration, >training records of the guys using the equipment, interference paterns from >FCC registered transmitters and >alarm systems in the area, etc, etc. > >He frazzled the court w/ all this technical stuff (he is an engineer), and >they dismissed it. > >just another angle. > >Best of luck! _________________________________________________________________ Get McAfee virus scanning and cleaning of incoming attachments. Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es

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#2. Cam Kit time - from James Clay
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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:46:50 -0400 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: Cam Kit time If anyone has been putting off the cams or cam kit for the 95 M3, now is the time. We are now offering a core return for stock M3 cams. When you return your (95 M3 only) cams, we will issue a credit for $200. Please ask to speak to me if you are interested or order online. James James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com Engineered BMW Performance 540.639.9648

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#3. Re: M3 radiator R/R writeup - from John Hovell
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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:01:05 -0700 (PDT) From: John Hovell <jhovell@stanford.edu> Subject: Re: M3 radiator R/R writeup If it's the connection below the expansion tank, you sure don't have to drain the system to get to it. Just take off the radiator cover, fan, and fan shroud and pull the tank up and out. It's connected by a really long hose that goes around the bottom of the fan shroud. The connection should be perfectly accessible from that point, and if you're a clever guy, you'll reinstall all the hose clamps so they can be accessed with the least amount of trouble with either a screw driver or a socket wrench, if you have any other leaks or whatever. In fact all the hose clamps should be accessible without draining the system. The only sort of leaks I think you'd need to drain the system for would be involving the Thermostat housing or water pump. - John

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Traffic Ticket - from Michael Lawrence
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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:28:48 -0400 From: "Michael Lawrence" <95m3ltw@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Traffic Ticket I have been to a few traffic courts in the last couple of years. The tactic below was used 3 times that I remember. The cop stumbled on most of the questions but yet, the judge instantly, I mean INSTANTLY found the guy guilty in all 3 cases. One of the judges went on about the waste of expensive court time to hear technical mumbo jumbo that wasn't relevant to the case etc. I was kinda shocked the first time, but after all, the judge calls the show, your course of actions beyond paying the fine, are not really viable since taking it to a higher court would be costly etc. The tactic I have used the most successfully is to post pone the trail as many times as you can. In doing so, you make the odds of the cop not showing much higher. Also, depending on type of officer etc, say a state trooper, if you extend it, most likely they will have been transferred to another region. I know states in the south move troopers all over the state every several months. I would post pone twice, then call looking for said officer at the court house. If he is there, then go to plan B, which in my case is to plead a lower charge, show that you are not a typical law breaker, first time offender, willing to do anything to keep it off the insurance etc. That has always worked for the few times I was not able to get out by the no show cop.. If he is not, then plead not guilty, it is thrown out. Now, if you really had time, find out who the judge is, sit in on traffic court, see how he rules, some are just there to make money for the county and never find anyone innocent. Some are actually tough asses on the cops and treat each case fairly. The above is about impossible for any working person, paying the ticket is cheaper etc. But when I was in college, I did that to just see what court was like. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "david tow" <david_tow@hotmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Traffic Ticket > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:22:05 -0700 > From: "david tow" <david_tow@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Traffic Ticket > > Bob, > > I will keep the digesters posted. I saw a similar tactic in court when I > was fighting for a ticket about 15 years, that gentleman unfortunately lost > his case. I guess it depends on how good and convincing your argument is. > > David > > >From: "B Stoll" <bobstoll@ameritech.net> > >To: "david tow" <david_tow@hotmail.com> > >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Traffic Ticket > >Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:29:18 -0500 > > > >Hi David, > > > >I sent this off-list, > >But I am interested in hearing the collective wisdom of those on this list, > >esp. with legal background. > > > >A friend of mine in Detroit, fought a ticket. > >Before his court date, he supeona'd <sp?> the cop, asking for the make and > >model of radar gun, date of last calibration, > >training records of the guys using the equipment, interference paterns from > >FCC registered transmitters and > >alarm systems in the area, etc, etc. > > > >He frazzled the court w/ all this technical stuff (he is an engineer), and > >they dismissed it. > > > >just another angle. > > > >Best of luck! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get McAfee virus scanning and cleaning of incoming attachments. Get Hotmail > Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Can I flip kumhos? - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:40:57 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Can I flip kumhos? In a message dated 9/24/03 3:30:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, suekraft@new.rr.com writes: > Is it safe for the V700s? Chester, Good question, I assume you are talking about the newer Ecsta V700 and not the Victoracers. The Victo's can be flipped on the rim...no problem (did it already). The Ecsta's are different tread pattern that looks directional. If it rains you could have problems. I'd check with TireRack. Let me know what they say, I wear the outer edge more as well. Good luck, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA BSP Champion '01 & '02

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Can I flip kumhos? - from ChuckBrazeau@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:18:05 -0400 From: ChuckBrazeau@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Can I flip kumhos? I know the Victoracers are perfectly okay to flip on the rims once the tread has worn down a bit (i've done this many times), but i think it would actually make more sense to be able to flip the Ecstas on the rims (dismounting and remounting) since their tread pattern is symetrical. You can still keep the tread going in the right direction (for rain purposes) when they're flipped on the rims... the wheels would just be moved to opposite sides of the car after the tires have been flipped. I just had my Ecsta V700's flipped on the rims to extend treat life (only 2 degrees of negative camber and stock height) and it was only $25 to have all four done (no balancing). Chuck Brazeau 1995 BMW M3 - Violet on Black SCCA Solo2 - Street Modified #95 http://www.brazeauracing.com/ In a message dated 9/24/2003 6:50:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mdriver13 writes: > Chester, > > Good question, I assume you are talking about the newer Ecsta V700 and not > the Victoracers. The Victo's can be flipped on the rim...no problem (did it > already). The Ecsta's are different tread pattern that looks directional. If it > rains you could have problems. I'd check with TireRack. > Let me know what > they say, I wear the outer edge more as well. > > Good luck, > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe > Philly Region SCCA > BSP Champion '01 & '02

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Re: M3 radiator R/R writeup - from Dames, Mark
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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:53:36 -0700 From: "Dames, Mark" <Mark.Dames@PDO.Co.Santa-Clara.CA.US> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: M3 radiator R/R writeup I don't think the fan shroud is going anywhere with the lower expansion tank hose in place. The hose snakes through it, IIRC. I agree with the rest. Just pull the tank up and yoiu have access to the hose clamp connection on the bottom (barely). -----Original Message----- From: John Hovell [mailto:jhovell@stanford.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:10 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: M3 radiator R/R writeup Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:01:05 -0700 (PDT) From: John Hovell <jhovell@stanford.edu> Subject: Re: M3 radiator R/R writeup If it's the connection below the expansion tank, you sure don't have to drain the system to get to it. Just take off the radiator cover, fan, and fan shroud and pull the tank up and out. It's connected by a really long hose that goes around the bottom of the fan shroud. The connection should be perfectly accessible from that point, and if you're a clever guy, you'll reinstall all the hose clamps so they can be accessed with the least amount of trouble with either a screw driver or a socket wrench, if you have any other leaks or whatever. In fact all the hose clamps should be accessible without draining the system. The only sort of leaks I think you'd need to drain the system for would be involving the Thermostat housing or water pump. - John ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Re: M3 radiator R/R writeup - from John Hovell
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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:53:29 -0700 (PDT) From: John Hovell <jhovell@stanford.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: M3 radiator R/R writeup You can pull up the shroud and the expansion tank as one unit..... they definitely come out this way. Yes, there's still a hose attaching the tank to the engine block, but it's long and has enough slack (if you push the hose back out the driver's side of the shroud) to pull it up to the surface of the engine bay. I think it would be more difficult to pull the tank up by itself, since there would not be a good way to get slack on the hose. I was suggesting pulling the shroud up too, so he could repair the hose clamp situation without separating the tank from the hose. - John On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Dames, Mark wrote: > I don't think the fan shroud is going anywhere with the lower expansion tank > hose in place. The hose snakes through it, IIRC. I agree with the rest. Just > pull the tank up and yoiu have access to the hose clamp connection on the > bottom (barely). > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hovell [mailto:jhovell@stanford.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:10 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Re: M3 radiator R/R writeup > > > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:01:05 -0700 (PDT) > From: John Hovell <jhovell@stanford.edu> > Subject: Re: M3 radiator R/R writeup > > If it's the connection below the expansion tank, you sure don't have to > drain the system to get to it. > > Just take off the radiator cover, fan, and fan shroud and pull the tank up > and out. It's connected by a really long hose that goes around the bottom > of the fan shroud. > > The connection should be perfectly accessible from that point, and if > you're a clever guy, you'll reinstall all the hose clamps so they can be > accessed with the least amount of trouble with either a screw driver or a > socket wrench, if you have any other leaks or whatever. > > In fact all the hose clamps should be accessible without draining the > system. The only sort of leaks I think you'd need to drain the system for > would be involving the Thermostat housing or water pump. > > - John

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#9. RE: [E36M3] Traffic Ticket - from K.C. Boyce
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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:18:25 -0400 From: "K.C. Boyce" <kcb@abcgroup-inc.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Traffic Ticket > The tactic below was used 3 times that I remember. > The cop stumbled on most of the questions but yet, > the judge instantly, I mean INSTANTLY found the guy > guilty in all 3 cases. One of the judges went on > about the waste of expensive court time to hear > technical mumbo jumbo that wasn't relevant to the case etc. Yep. Didn't work for me, either. > The tactic I have used the most successfully is to > post pone the trail as many times as you can. In > doing so, you make the odds of the cop not showing > much higher. Also, depending on type of officer etc, > say a state trooper, if you extend it, most likely they > will have been transferred to another region. I know > states in the south move troopers all over the state > every several months. Didn't work for me. I got a ticket in West Podunk, Kansas (actually, Russell, but who's keeping score) for 92 in a 70 a few years back. Postponed trial twice (I was in school in Colorado at the time), got all of the calibration records, etc. Put together a technical defense as to why the speed they "clocked" me at was not my actual speed. I knew I was in trouble when the DA went into the Judge's chamber and said "Your 10:30 is here -- 92 in a 70", and the Judge responded "I should just throw him in jail". My only consolation was that the trooper sought me out after the trial and said that it was the most intelligent defense he had heard in a long time. Moral of the story, depending on where you are, get a lawyer who knows the system! KC Boyce '97 M3/4

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#10. Front Windsheild Replacement - from Venkata Yella
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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:52:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Venkata Yella <v_yella@yahoo.com> Subject: Front Windsheild Replacement Folks, I need to replace my car's front windsheild. I saw a crack in the glass this morning and it's growing. Does anyone know how much it costs and where you can get it cheap? Also, I would appreciate if someone can recommend a good shop that does glass replacement for bmws in Bay Area(Sunnyvale). I don't know what portion of replacement cost is covered by imy insurance(All State). Thanks in advance. 99 M3/2 51k SS, clutch stop. -Yella v_yella@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

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