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#1. [E36M3] Re: Jackpads - from Tom Melton
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:28:49 -0500 From: "Tom Melton" <tom_melton@emoryhealthcare.org> Subject: [E36M3] Re: Jackpads Amazed you say? I am very happy they come off fairly easy, as that is the factory recommended tie-down point when trailering! Tom Melton 95 M3 >>> "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> 10/27/03 09:29AM >>> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:23:42 -0500 From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> Subject: Re: Jackpads Josh, The E46 ones fit without modification (may depend on your side skirts I have a non-lux car). I've seen the E46 pin to E36 jackpad mod, but why waste the time (unless you have a jack that fits the E36 hockey pucks perfectly). The E46 pads have more surface area which will be a good thing when jacking up the car. I've always liked that about E46s (IMHO of course). Use some 3m Strip Calk around the edges of the pad where it meets the body to prevent water/salt/sand from entering the chassis. Believe it or not the E36 pads are supposed to have a rubber seal. I've bought some without them as they must fall out in shipping (almost as often as the pad itself). The E46 ones already have a seal in them, but the Strip Calk really seals them up against the chassis. As an FYI, you get something like 60 yards of that 3m stuff for ~$15.00 at any autobody shop and it works much better than any tube of silicone or adhesive. The pin ensures they won't fall out. Just use a hammer to tap the pin in. Just installed mine on Saturday. Total of ~$16.00 with a standard discount at the dealer for the E46 jackpads. It amazes me that BMW could overlook a small detail like those pads and it ends up leaving large holes in the underside of the chassis to catch water, salt, sand etc. I would think the history of such cars like 2002s and 3.0s would remind them that any hole under the car means rust later in life. -Justin -- '76 02 '97 m3 (with four new jackpads) bmw cca checkout http://www.bmw2002.net ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#2. [E36M3] Re: Jackpads - from JUSTIN GERRY
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:37:29 -0500 From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> Subject: [E36M3] Re: Jackpads I would think a couple of tow hooks on front and rear bumpers would be sufficient, then again I don't trailer my car. Also the 3m Strip Calk is not permanent and is easy remove if you need to. I wonder how they handling towing on E46 and E39s, both of these cars have similar jackpads with pins in them. As always YMMV. -Justin -- '76 02 '97 m3 bmw cca checkout http://www.bmw2002.net >>> "Tom Melton" <tom_melton@emoryhealthcare.org> 10/27 9:28 AM >>> Amazed you say? I am very happy they come off fairly easy, as that is the factory recommended tie-down point when trailering! Tom Melton 95 M3 >>> "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> 10/27/03 09:29AM >>> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:23:42 -0500 From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> Subject: Re: Jackpads Josh, The E46 ones fit without modification (may depend on your side skirts I have a non-lux car). I've seen the E46 pin to E36 jackpad mod, but why waste the time (unless you have a jack that fits the E36 hockey pucks perfectly). The E46 pads have more surface area which will be a good thing when jacking up the car. I've always liked that about E46s (IMHO of course). Use some 3m Strip Calk around the edges of the pad where it meets the body to prevent water/salt/sand from entering the chassis. Believe it or not the E36 pads are supposed to have a rubber seal. I've bought some without them as they must fall out in shipping (almost as often as the pad itself). The E46 ones already have a seal in them, but the Strip Calk really seals them up against the chassis. As an FYI, you get something like 60 yards of that 3m stuff for ~$15.00 at any autobody shop and it works much better than any tube of silicone or adhesive. The pin ensures they won't fall out. Just use a hammer to tap the pin in. Just installed mine on Saturday. Total of ~$16.00 with a standard discount at the dealer for the E46 jackpads. It amazes me that BMW could overlook a small detail like those pads and it ends up leaving large holes in the underside of the chassis to catch water, salt, sand etc. I would think the history of such cars like 2002s and 3.0s would remind them that any hole under the car means rust later in life. -Justin -- '76 02 '97 m3 (with four new jackpads) bmw cca checkout http://www.bmw2002.net ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#3. can 6 speed Getrag tranny go in a 97 M3 Coupe?? - from Hunt Hodgetts
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:12:46 -0800 (PST) From: Hunt Hodgetts <hhodgetts@yahoo.com> Subject: can 6 speed Getrag tranny go in a 97 M3 Coupe?? I am thinking about purchasing a 6 speed Getrag transmission from a 98 540 model S6S420G ("226.0.0161.90" marked on bell housing) and putting it in my 97 M3 Coupe (manual tranny). Can anyone verify if this transmission will work with an E36 M3? Is it a simple bolt in procedure or is extensive modification necessary? Is it a worthwhile upgrade? Thanks, Hunt Hodgetts __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Jackpads... - from daanesh chanduwadia
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:50:01 -0500 From: "daanesh chanduwadia" <daanesh@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Jackpads... i've said it before and i'll say it again: if you're driving around without jackpads, you're driving around in a car that's a lot noisier and less refined than it could be. (and that's something that even those aren't forced to drive in the northeast can appreciate). | daaneshGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
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#5. Re: Adjustable camber plate question - from Neil Maller
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:19:05 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Adjustable camber plate question on 10/26/03 8:39 PM, Kit Wetzler <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> wrote: >> At one time the K-Macs were the only choice for the E36, but now there are >> better options. Regardless of anything else, the quality of design and >> manufacture of the K-Mac camber plates simply isn't in the same league as >> those from TC Kline or Ground Control. > This is simply not true. In what respect, Kit? (See below for why I believe it is.) > There is no plate on the market with the durability of the KMacs. Has durability been a general problem? I don't think I've ever heard anyone complain about that for any camber plate. > They use a stock style strut bearing on them, which has proven to be much more > robust than the circular bearings on the other brands you mentioned. Every > set of ground control plates I've been around make noise. > The latest gen K-Macs give you all the caster you need, too. For a > street car, I'd much rather have the kmacs... Although people do it, I wouldn't put solid strut bearings on a street car, both for the noise reasons you mention, and because the elimination of resilient mounting allows potentially destructive shock loads on the strut tower sheet metal. However your implication that only the K-Macs offer a non-solid bearing design, is to coin a phrase, simply not true. Ground Control also has one. Here's what I don't like about K-Macs: - Cheap stamped steel construction - Inability to lock camber and caster settings independently - General attention to quality. I recently installed K-Macs on a Mini; the supplied shaft spacers were improperly machined and unusable, and the pressed-in sleeve in the inner bearing race had a slightly oversized ID, leading to shock shaft play and noise. (While these last problems may of course be specific to the Mini application, they certainly reflect poorly on the K-Mac brand in general.) So: I stand by my opinion that the quality of design and manufacture of the K-Mac camber plates simply isn't in the same league as those from TC Kline or Ground Control. Everyone else is of course free to make their own decision about that, and to spend their money where they want. Neil 96 M3 - swapped hats
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#6. FW: [E36M3] M5 list? - from Scott M
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:37:05 -0800 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: FW: [E36M3] M5 list? Cool - I will have to check them out. I decided to consolidate the stable a bit: E36 M3 + E39 540iT ===> '00 M5. Just picked it up on Saturday. What a sweet car. I will miss the M3, however - I'll write up some comparisons soon. For now, enjoy the pics: http://home.pacbell.net/dorenemc/BMW.html Car is immaculate in every way, 39K miles and came with a CPO warrantee to 100K miles. Paid kbb trade-in for it. Couldn't pass up the opportunity to own such an awesome car. Scott '00 M5 '98 M3/4 - 4sale '01 Suburban '91 Corvette road racer on 10/26/03 8:59 AM, Jeff Stowe at jrstowe@pacbell.net wrote: > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:04:55 -0800 > From: "Jeff Stowe" <jrstowe@pacbell.net> > Subject: M5 list? > > Scott, > > This group is actually an E34 M5 group but many E39 owners hang out there as > well. Extremely good group, very very knowledgeable, friendly, etc. > > THey often put together Bay area M5 drives and things like that. > > Group Email: bmwe34m5@yahoogroups.com > Group Website: http://yahoogroups.com/group/bmwe34m5 > BMW Links: http://yahoogroups.com/group/bmwe34m5/links > Registry: http://bmwe34m5.com/registry > M5 FAQs: http://bmwe34m5.com/faqs > > jeff > > > > >> -------------------- 6 -------------------- >> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:43:18 -0700 >> From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> >> Subject: M5 list? >> >> So just curious if there is a E39 M5 list like this one.... >> >> Scott >> '98 M3/4 >> '99 540iT >> >> >> > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* >
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#7. RE: Jackpads... - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:55:26 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Jackpads... I can add that there is a 5 series pad (I have four) that looks close/identical to the E36 3 series pad that comes with a seal, doesn't stay in any better, but it has a seal. I don't have the number right now but I'll bet someone with an EKT(?) can help us out! KLBurgess -------------------- 2 -------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:53:35 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Jackpads... At 05:49 PM 10/26/03, DocWyte wrote: I seem to recall something about using the e46 ones instead tho... What's all that about? See Ron Stygar's section at the Unofficial E36 Home Page (you guys should really bookmark this site :-)): http://www.unofficialbmw.com/e36/misc/e36_jack_points.html Main site at: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/bmw_e36.html Cheers, Jim Bassett
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#8. unsubscribe list - from GordonW530@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:18:49 -0500 From: GordonW530@aol.com Subject: unsubscribe list
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Jackpads... - from Newman, Christopher
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:42:36 -0500 From: "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Jackpads... Has anyone tried covering the holes with strips of duct tape ? Or what if you cut out some pieces from an aluminum can, then somehow tape or glue the pieces over the holes ? Not very elegant, and I don't know if it would even work. Maybe it would cause more harm than good. What's inside the holes, anyway ? Would it be a bad idea to periodically take your garden hose and spray water directly into the holes to flush out any salt or debris ? > -----Original Message----- > From: DocWyte [SMTP:josh_wyte@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 11:20 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Jackpads... > > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:10:31 -0800 (PST) > From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Jackpads... > > I want them in there mostly to block the holes that > are left behind. I'd prefer to not let the salt gain > entry thru there this winter if possible... > > -josh > >
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#10. RE: hockey puck like heads ....was..Jackpads... - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:41:31 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: hockey puck like heads ....was..Jackpads... Steve D has a new stand from AC. http://www.ultimategarage.com/acjacks.html Mine are on the way...I HOPE! "I don't know what benefit the jack stands serve" ....the car smashing your 'coconut' when the jack fails and drops the car? KLB -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:23:28 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Jackpads... I may have had one jackpad on the car when I bought it two years ago, but I think I had zero. I've never missed them. When I use the big jack that has the curved jack head I stick a chunk of wood (quite nice padouk actually) between it and the car, so that the metal doesn't gouge the body or moulding. When I use the AL jack with the flat surface I just jack on the car. When using jack stands I employ some of the aforementioned wood bits between the car and the stands (until I get stands with hockey puck like heads - anyone know where to procure these so I can quit using the wood?). Point of all this is that I don't know what benefit the jack stands serve. Am I missing something (again)? Jason