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#1. RE: [E36M3] Fire Extinguisher in a street car - from Murray Roblin
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:46:20 -0800 From: "Murray Roblin" <murray@farleyroblin.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Fire Extinguisher in a street car Jim Powell has some interesting comments at http://www.apexcone.com/JimPowellHomepage/Extinguisher/Extinguisher.html .. Having had a car fire and living with a screwed up electrical system after the fact, I'm partial to his argument. I've got a dry chem extinguisher in my M3. I store it in the trunk, in a tote bag with jumper cables, duct tape and a few wrenchs. I've had to use one on a car in an accident and it was no problem to get it out of the trunk in a hurry. I wouldn't keep it in the cockpit if you aren't going to restrain it as it becomes a potent missile in an accident. Also, you might choose to wrap some masking tape around the body and handle to prevent it from getting knocked loose. Murray > -----Original Message----- > From: Newman, Christopher [mailto:CNewman@LSAC.org] > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:33 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Fire Extinguisher in a street car > > > Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:41:37 -0500 > From: "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> > Subject: Fire Extinguisher in a street car > > > Hello, > I have a small fire extinguisher I was thinking of putting in > my street M3 in case of a fire. I believe it's a dry-chemical > extinguisher, not a halon. I believe it's rated for all > types of fires. > >From my description, does this sound like a safe/appropriate > >extinguisher to > keep in my street car ? > Should I be concerned that it might explode and shoot white > powder everywhere ? I would prefer not to drill or attach any > mounting brackets inside the car. What about somehow wedging > it under the rear-seat floor mat/carpet ? Or, although not as > accessible, storing it in an open box in the trunk ? I did > some searching but am hoping for some comments and/or leads > to additional info. Thanks. >
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#2. Re: Coolant Smell - from JUSTIN GERRY
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:51:56 -0500 From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> Subject: Re: Coolant Smell It does smell sweet when its new. Really old stuff smells quite rank. I bet that is where the "fishy" smell may come from. It depends on the coolant type, mixture and the acidity as well. It has a pretty unique smell though, you can't mistake coolant for hypoid diff fluid or engine oil... Its usually obvious if you have a heater core leak, as the windows tend to fog up when you run the heat, even on a dry day. -Justin -- '76 02 '97 m3 bmw cca checkout http://www.bmw2002.net
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Coolant smell - from Chris Papademetrious
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:05:47 -0500 From: Chris Papademetrious <chrispy@ieee.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coolant smell At 01:32 PM 11/14/2003 -0600, Newman, Christopher wrote: >Hello, >Someone mentioned they smelled Coolant from their interior vents when they >turned on the heater. >What would that smell like ? The best thing to do is to pop the cap when the car is cold, and take a whiff! It has a pretty distinctive smell. - Chris
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#4. RE: Fire Extinguisher in a street car - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:08:48 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Fire Extinguisher in a street car "I would prefer not to drill or attach any mounting brackets inside the car." Try http://www.bkauto.com/bmw/index.php Kim Burgess
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#5. Re: Fire Extinguisher - from Chip Mitchell
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:24:04 -0500 From: Chip Mitchell <chipm@uga.edu> Subject: Re: Fire Extinguisher There are several good options here. First, regarding the dry chemical extinguisher: Dry chemical is not as good as halon for a collector car as it may do a lot of damage. However, Halon is much, much more expensive and in the case of the E36 M3, where there are thousands of them out there, I don't want to keep one that has burned anyway. Second, regarding the mounting. There is a ver nice factory mount that fits under the passenger seat. Do a search at unofficialbmw.com For the cheap extinguishers that come with their own bracket, you can attach "L" brackets to the seat bottom and mount it that way. I keep mine velcroed to the battery tray in the trunk. Any way you do it, a fire extinguisher is a great thing to have handy. A neighbors van across the street was burning recently, and we were able to grab mine out of the car and put it out before any major damage was done. After that incident, we also keep on in the garage, kitchen, and in my wife's car. Chip Mitchell >-------------------- 12 -------------------- >Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:41:37 -0500 >From: "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> >Subject: Fire Extinguisher in a street car > > >Hello, >I have a small fire extinguisher I was thinking of putting in my street M3 >in case of a fire. >I believe it's a dry-chemical extinguisher, not a halon. I believe it's >rated for all types of fires. >From my description, does this sound like a safe/appropriate extinguisher to >keep in my street car ? >Should I be concerned that it might explode and shoot white powder >everywhere ? >I would prefer not to drill or attach any mounting brackets inside the car. >What about somehow wedging it under the rear-seat floor mat/carpet ? >Or, although not as accessible, storing it in an open box in the trunk ? >I did some searching but am hoping for some comments and/or leads to >additional info. Thanks. >
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Fire Extinguisher - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:27:22 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Fire Extinguisher At 12:32 PM 11/14/03, Chip Mitchell wrote: >Second, regarding the mounting. There is a ver nice factory >mount that fits under the passenger seat. Actually, it'll fit under the driver seat as well, which is where I have mine mounted. The mounting hardware for the BMW mount is: 72 60 9 413 436 - non-power seats 72 60 9 400 643 - power seat (if I'm reading the ETK correctly) FWIW, the BMW extinguisher p/n is: 72 60 0 000 335 Hope that helps, Jim Bassett
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#7. Re: OT: Looking for a 2001 or later Lemans Blue M5 - from John Hovell
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:04:35 -0800 (PST) From: John Hovell <jhovell@stanford.edu> Subject: Re: OT: Looking for a 2001 or later Lemans Blue M5 Brian -- This 2002 model on E-bay looks really clean, and it's on the east coast: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2443106116&category=6131 I think the clutch problem was acknowledged and addressed by BMW. Generally Roadfly.org, E-bay, and the BMW CCA classifieds are good places to check. Also, the UUC digest often has M5's pop up now and again. I know there are a bunch of M5 specific digests as well, but not owning one, I don't know which they are. So did you get a good settlement from the fellow who hit you? Glad to see you're moving up from the M3. Here's to a speedy recovery... Best, John > -------------------- 3 -------------------- > Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:30:13 -0500 > From: "Brian A. Marks" <brian@pfyc.com> > Subject: OT: Looking for a 2001 or later Lemans Blue M5 > > Hi everyone: > > Since my beautiful Avus Blue '95 M3 was smashed to bits (along with the > left side of my body), I am looking to replace it with a 2001 or later > Lemans Blue M5. Does anyone have any leads? > > Thanks! > -- > Brian A. Marks > President - PFYC - http://www.pfyc.com/ > > [ *** NOTE: Please include this message when replying *** ]
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#8. Re: Fire extinguisher - from Chris Conner
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:33:19 -0800 From: "Chris Conner" <chris@digital7.com> Subject: Re: Fire extinguisher I got a small extinguisher, rated for all types of fires. It comes with a bracket to attach it to a wall. I used two zipties to attach it to the bottom of the driver's seat. Depending on the length of your zipties, you may have to lengthen them by attaching two together. It will move forward and backwards with the seat. It fits perfectly, and I have never accidentally hit it with my feet. In the event I need to use it, I just pull the tab, and it comes right out of the mounting bracket. I have used this setup on my 328 and my m3 for 50k+ miles with no issues, including 100+ degree summer weather down to 5 degrees in wintertime. Luckily, I have not had to use it yet, but with the recent stories of m3s flipping and burning, I would never want to drive around without one. I mean this more for use on other cars than my own. I am in San Francisco at the moment, but I will post pics when I get back. Chris >>> Hello, I have a small fire extinguisher I was thinking of putting in my street M3 in case of a fire. I believe it's a dry-chemical extinguisher, not a halon. I believe it's rated for all types of fires. >From my description, does this sound like a safe/appropriate >extinguisher to keep in my street car ? Should I be concerned that it might explode and shoot white powder everywhere ? I would prefer not to drill or attach any mounting brackets inside the car. What about somehow wedging it under the rear-seat floor mat/carpet ? Or, although not as accessible, storing it in an open box in the trunk ? I did some searching but am hoping for some comments and/or leads to additional info. Thanks.
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#9. trailing arm mounting points - from Kit Wetzler
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:50:58 -0800 From: Kit Wetzler <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: trailing arm mounting points Ok, all y'alls out there with E36s, make sure you check the rear trailing arm bushing/toe control bushing mounts. I've been getting this weird click out of the back of the car, and couldn't figure it out, and had checked the trailing arm bushings, (they are powerflex replacements, and are fine) and scratched my head. Today, it turned into a nasty clunk and the mounting points for the trailing arm bushing carrier had torn out of the car, (well, 2 out of 3 of them) Definitely fixable but requires welding (And I'm going to have them reinforced on both sides so this doesn't happen again) If all 3 had failed, it's real easy to lose control of the car. it's a good idea to at least every time you get an alignment, to drop the trailing arm mounts and look at the mounting points, to look for cracks, etc. Usually this failure doesn't occur with good bushing replacements... oh well. -kit, whose car is being fixed now...
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Fire Extinguisher - from Michael Lawrence
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:45:11 -0500 From: "Michael Lawrence" <95m3ltw@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Fire Extinguisher In my 20 years of driving. OMG, that just made me feel really old at 34, sheesh. Anyway, in that time frame, I cant count on 2 hands how many times a fire extingisher has or should have been helpful. 3 of my own have caught fire, 1 total loss. Then the times I have been in the wrong or right places at the right times to see other cars catch on fire. I have saved about 3-4 cars with my own Fire Ext. while I have watched about 5 burn up and say, "wow, that really sucks" I have noticed when I mention it to my friends, they all claim to have never seen a car burn up. When actually it happens much more than people realize. I know in atlanta, I will see about 1-2 burnt cars every few weeks. How many could have been saved by a Fire Ext. is unknown, but I try to keep one in my own cars at all times. Out of the cars I have owned that caught on fire, 2 were old cars that we were tinkering with and should have known better. Had spilt fuel under the hood etc. BUT 1 was a Fairly new Ford product that had a power steering leak, spraying on the exhaust, it caugh fire in a exciting way. We would nto have even noticed except it was a dark road and we saw 'pretty lights' or so my GF called it, flickering off the road. Stopped, didnt see anything, turned the steering wheel to pull back on the road and flames were coming out from under the hood. Grabbing the Fire Ext from the trunk put out the fire with no ill effects. And, any car that is getting up in age, like 95 M3s, old fuel lines are known to start leaking or split, spraying a nice high pressure fuel spray on a hot engine etc. I bought a 325ic at a great price since it had a flash fuel fire with got the engine harness. 3 hours of labor, new harness and I had a nice 325ic for cheap. Mike