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#1. RE: [E36M3] re:Another tire question (with rear end ramblings) - from twisty M3
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:28:16 -0800 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] re:Another tire question (with rear end ramblings) >From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> > >7 sets of rear tires in 50k miles. My opinion is that the rear end on this >car is the weak point. > That's just insane!!! I'd have to say there's something wrong with your right foot, NOT the car. ;) If you can't tame that sucker down, you might at least consider getting same size wheels all around so you can rotate tires for even wear. When I first got my car, a set of tires would only last me 10-15k miles. Street tires now last me well into the 20k mile range (since all harder driving is on track only now), my current set will probably last close to 30k. Even my track tires (RA-1s) last longer than your street tires. I think you need to recalibrate your throttle input sensor device (i.e. foot). ;) Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ It’s our best dial-up Internet access offer: 6 months @$9.95/month. Get it now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Another staggered tire question - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:42:09 -0500 From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Another staggered tire question jhoffner@gcfinc.com writes: > > I have a 95 M3 with the light weight Motorsport staggered wheels, 7 1/2" > front and 8 1/2" rear. I run 235/40-17 on all corners. As far as I know > this is the factory recommended setup and the recommended > setup on Tire > Rack for the model year 95 M3 with staggered wheels. No tire manufacturer recommends putting a 235/40 tire on a 7 1/2" rim. The rim is too narrow. Minimum recommended rim for 235/40 tire is 8". BMW ignored the tire manufacturers' recommendation when it put 235/40-17 tires on 7 1/2" rims for the 1995 M3. Why I don't know. I suppose BMW saved money with the narrower rims. BMW did conform to the tire manufacturers' recommendations for 1996+ when it used 225/45 and 245/40 tires on staggered 7 1/2" and 8 1/2" rims. Lowell Seaton '95 M3
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Another tire question - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:20:19 -0500 From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Another tire question tuckerryals@yahoo.com writes: > > My 95 M3 (purchased this year) has the staggered > contour rim set up. Tucker, Are you really really sure about this? The M Contour rims were NOT staggered in 1995. Unless the previous owner bought 2 new rear rims from a 1996+ M3, you have 7 1/2" rims all around. > Interestingly, the PO had 235 > width tires on the front and 245 tires on the rear. > The tires are in need of replacement and I'm curious > if I should replicate this arrangement or go back to > the 225/245 factory set up. As I just mentioned in my last post, 235/40 tires are technically too wide for the stock 7 1/2" rims. 245/40 tires are way too wide. I suspect you have 7 1/2" rims all around, even on the rear. 225/245 was not the factory set up for 1995. It was on the 1996-1999 M3's. > I know the non-staggered > e36 M3 rims are 7.5" all the way around and BMW put > 235's on the rim, so it seems like it would be okay to > run the 235/245 set up, and perhaps remove some > understeer associated with the 225/245 set up. As we know, a lot of 1995 M3's run fine on 235/40 tires so even though it is not recommended by the tire manufacturers, I wouldn't worry about 235 tires. 245 is getting a little wide for the narrow 7 1/2" rims. I suppose you could run 225/45-17 tires front and rear. That would be the tire manufacturers' recommended tire for the rims you have. But I would not recommend it. 225/45-17 tires are taller than 235/40-17 so that would hurt your acceleration. Plus, I like the look of wider tires on my M3. I run 245/40-17 tires on 8 1/2" rims all around. It is a very tight fit on the front but it works fine. For you, I'd recommend going with 235/40-17 tires all around. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 BMW CCA #131505
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#4. Re: In the Wet and Winter Weight - from Steve Klein
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:44:12 -0800 From: Steve Klein <klein@robinsonad.com> Subject: Re: In the Wet and Winter Weight I'd like to add to Jason's comments about the Goodyear Eagle F1 D3's. I'm only about 5K/mi. into them, but in all of the hard rain and standing water we've had, the grip and traction has been astounding. Hard cornering in a downpour is a non-event (except for your passengers). I think that on this tire, the tread does more than give marketing a platform. The grooves are slightly angled away from center and very long, wrapping around about 1/4 to 1/3 of the tire before diverting outwards at the edge. It seems that this allows the water to be pushed fore or aft of the contact patch rather than using energy to divert it sideways. My first encounter with deep standing water on the highway left me awed. There was no sensation of hitting it. No lurching or deflection. It felt just like the rest of the road. They don't have quite the grip of the MXX3s in the dry (haven't tried SO-3s) and they take a bit to warm up, but they are very predictable all around. Quiet on the road until you start breaking grip, then they talk nicely and have a very linear feel about them. As far as snow, I'm running 225/45 17 Blizzak LM-22's with only the spare in the trunk. After my first winter getting caught with the MXX3's in a light sleet (eeesh!) I've been leery of how our cars handled. All that changed this past Saturday when I was driving on 4-6" of unplowed snow, up-hill, both ways, with nary a problem. Sedans, SUVs and even a plow truck were getting stuck on hills that I just cruised up. I would have helped push some of them if I wasn't wearing shorts. Cheers, Steve
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#5. RE: Advice on Kumho Ecsta Supra 712's for wet driving - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:59:36 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Advice on Kumho Ecsta Supra 712's for wet driving Bob - I have been following the Kumho thread for a couple of years now, and I believe you had the discovery of Kumho's old/new compounds as a purchaser of 'mixed' batch/compounds. Did this ever get resolved? KLBurgess
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#6. 330iPP limited slip? - from Reid Conti
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:06:56 -0800 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: 330iPP limited slip? I swear people around here were saying the 330iPP had an LSD, but I can't find that info anywhere anymore... Was I mistaken? - reid
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#7. RE: [E36M3] 330iPP limited slip? - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:19:46 -0600 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@fotofab.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 330iPP limited slip? Yes, you were. The only E-46 with factory LSD is the M3. Regards Jamie Howton 2002 330i 1995 M3 -----Original Message----- From: Reid Conti [mailto:reid@conti.net] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:13 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] 330iPP limited slip? Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:06:56 -0800 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: 330iPP limited slip? I swear people around here were saying the 330iPP had an LSD, but I can't find that info anywhere anymore... Was I mistaken? - reid
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#8. Re: [E36M3] 330iPP limited slip? - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:21:07 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 330iPP limited slip? On Dec 18, 2003, at 11:22 AM, Jamie Howton wrote: > Yes, you were. The only E-46 with factory LSD is the M3. > I know someone who put a Quaife in an E46 330iA. It was, to put it mildly, A Nightmare. And it redefined "expensive" when all was said and done. - Mark
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#9. RE: Another staggered tire question - from Bob Vaughn
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:26:40 -0800 From: Bob Vaughn <Bob_Vaughn@Telestream.net> Subject: RE: Another staggered tire question I bought my '95 new with the same setup, 7 1/2" front and 8 1/2" back with 235's all the way around. I've been running with 245's on the back for years now with no problems. -- Bob > I have a 95 M3 with the light weight Motorsport staggered > wheels, 7 1/2" > front and 8 1/2" rear. I run 235/40-17 on all corners. As far > as I know > this is the factory recommended setup and the recommended > setup on Tire > Rack for the model year 95 M3 with staggered wheels. > >
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#10. RE: [E36M3] 330iPP limited slip? - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:53:22 -0600 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@fotofab.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 330iPP limited slip? >> I know someone who put a Quaife in an E46 330iA. It was, to put it mildly, A Nightmare. What problems did they have? I've been contemplating this for my 330i, haven't been able to rationalize the price yet though. Regards Jamie Howton 2002 330i 1995 M3