E36M3 #3553

Wednesday, January 21, 2004 13:37:13

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#1. Re: Cooling System Upgrade/Maintenance - from NSimon1111@aol.com
#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Cooling System Upgrade/Maintenance - from Mark Dadgar
#3. Stereo Question - from mtzenz@excite.com
#4. Oil in spark plug hole - from bmw
#5. RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole - from Jamie Howton
#6. Falken Azenis 245/45/17 - from Ahmad Lutfeali
#7. RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole - from Jim Bassett
#8. RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole - from Jamie Howton
#9. RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole - from Chester Wong
#10. RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com

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#1. Re: Cooling System Upgrade/Maintenance - from NSimon1111@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:59:41 EST From: NSimon1111@aol.com Subject: Re: Cooling System Upgrade/Maintenance In a message dated 1/20/04 5:53:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, Neil Maller writes: If you're planning 1) to install a supercharger, and 2) One Lap, then you should strongly consider installing an oil cooler. Neil 96 M3 Neil - Good advice about an oil cooler -- I've been running with one for almost 2 years and consider it essential if you see any time at track. Neil Simon 99 M Coupe DC tags "MDORPHN"

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Cooling System Upgrade/Maintenance - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:12:19 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Cooling System Upgrade/Maintenance On Jan 20, 2004, at 6:07 PM, NSimon1111@aol.com wrote: > Good advice about an oil cooler -- I've been running with one for > almost 2 > years and consider it essential if you see any time at track. What kind of oil temps were you seeing at the track that pushed you in the direction of installing a cooler? What kind of oil are you using? - Mark ----- mark@pdc-racing.net

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#3. Stereo Question - from mtzenz@excite.com
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 01:53:47 -0500 (EST) From: "mtzenz@excite.com" <mtzenz@excite.com> Subject: Stereo Question I know this topic has come up a million times and there are a million answers so please email me offline. I just learned that my 3 piece component MB Quart speaker system for the front speakers has died. Looks like the crossovers may be going bad. Shop told me that they should not have been mounted under the seats (under the carpet) by previous shop a few years ago. I still want to test them myself, but in the event I need to buy new speakers for the front of my 97 M3 Coupe, I wanted to see what everyone is purchasing now. It looks like 3 piece component systems are hard to find. MB Quart does not make one. The only one I have heard about (although I cannot find it on their web site) is JL Audio. I have a RF 700x 4 channel amp running the fronts and back and a RF 1000watt amp running the subs. So what are you all putting in your M3's? I'm looking for people who have put in speakers in the last year or so. I'm looking for a good clean sound, not something to turn up and bang. Thanks in Advance! MarkSan Jose, CA _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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#4. Oil in spark plug hole - from bmw
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:45:35 -0800 (PST) From: bmw <m3lawdawg@yahoo.com> Subject: Oil in spark plug hole Started changing the plugs last night and noticed a small trickle of oil from the seal in the #1 plug. Does anyone have the part numbers for the Valve cover gaskets and plug hole gaskets. And is there a parts CD for the E36 cars. When changing he gaskets are there any tricks I should know? Tony __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus

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#5. RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:55:08 -0600 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@fotofab.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole The P/Ns you need really depend upon which car and engine you have. I am assuming that you have a US E-36 M3 (since this is the E36 M3 list), there are still several possible gasket sets: 1995 US M3 3.0L up to 9/95 production date calls out a Profile gasket set P/N 11 12 9 070 531 10/95 and up (still 3.0L) calls out: Profile Gasket P/N 11 12 1 404 358 Qty 1 (valve cover) and Profile Gasket P/N 11 12 1 402 386 Qty 2 (spark plugs) 1996 US M3 3.2L calls out Profile Gasket P/N 11 12 1 404 358 Qty 1 (valve cover) and Profile Gasket P/N 11 12 1 402 637 Qty 2 (spark plugs) There may be other part number variations, it would take all day to look through every month of production of E36 M3s to check for variations. There is a parts CD available, I have heard that you can find it on Ebay. Search on ETK or TIS. There is also a repair manual available, you need the E-36 Bentley manual: http://www.bentleypublishers.com/product.htm?code=B398&subject=4. The Bentley manual has the entire procedure. You are supposed to use a special BMW gasket sealant in some locations, I used a flexible gasket sealant from NAPA. Regards Jamie Howton 2002 330i 1995 M3 -----Original Message----- From: bmw [mailto:m3lawdawg@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:57 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:45:35 -0800 (PST) From: bmw <m3lawdawg@yahoo.com> Subject: Oil in spark plug hole Started changing the plugs last night and noticed a small trickle of oil from the seal in the #1 plug. Does anyone have the part numbers for the Valve cover gaskets and plug hole gaskets. And is there a parts CD for the E36 cars. When changing he gaskets are there any tricks I should know? Tony __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#6. Falken Azenis 245/45/17 - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:04:04 -0500 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Falken Azenis 245/45/17 I have heard nothing but good stuff about these tires. They are really cheap and apparently provide excellent grip for a street tire (should be great for lapping days as well). However, the only size they have for the rears (staggered setup) is 245/45/17. Wouldn't this tire be a bit too tall? Anyone running these on their cars? Any feedback? Thanks in advance. Ahmad

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:13:30 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole > 10/95 and up (still 3.0L) calls out: > Profile Gasket P/N 11 12 1 404 358 Qty 1 (valve cover) and > Profile Gasket P/N 11 12 1 402 386 Qty 2 (spark plugs) > > 1996 US M3 3.2L calls out > Profile Gasket P/N 11 12 1 404 358 Qty 1 (valve cover) and > Profile Gasket P/N 11 12 1 402 637 Qty 2 (spark plugs) These are generally available as a kit, with includes all 3 gaskets needed. The P/N I have for the kit for my '98 M3 is: 11 12 9 070 532 > You are supposed to use a > special BMW gasket sealant in some locations, I used a flexible gasket > sealant from NAPA. AFAIK, no sealer needed for the valve cover gaskets. Hope that helps, Jim Bassett

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:11:43 -0600 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@fotofab.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:27 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole > AFAIK, no sealer needed for the valve cover gaskets. Jim, From TIS: "BMW TIS RA Removing and installing/sealing cylinder head cover (M52/S52/S50US)" <SNIP> "Installation: Remove Sealing debris from sealing faces of cylinder head and cylinder head cover. Coat contact surfaces of joint with Drei Bond 1209 (refer to BMW Parts Service)." [Photo of front of engine with cylinder head cover removed arrows pointing to front corners of head/block sealing surface] "Installation: Apply a thin and even sealing bead of Drei Bond 1209 (Refer to BMW parts service) at transition to half-moon sections at rear of cylinder head" [Photo of rear of engine with cylinder head cover removed arrows pointing to 1/2 moon transitions] I "think" although I am going from memory here that this is referenced in the Bentley manual also. Regards Jamie Howton 2002 330i 1995 M3

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#9. RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:18:53 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole This does not mean to cover all contact surfaces. Just four points or so.. Chester --- Jamie Howton <jhowton@fotofab.com> wrote: > "Installation: Remove Sealing debris from sealing faces of cylinder head > and cylinder head cover. Coat contact surfaces of joint with Drei Bond > 1209 (refer to BMW Parts Service)." > [Photo of front of engine with cylinder head cover removed arrows > pointing to front corners of head/block sealing surface] > > "Installation: Apply a thin and even sealing bead of Drei Bond 1209 > (Refer to BMW parts service) at transition to half-moon sections at rear > of cylinder head" > [Photo of rear of engine with cylinder head cover removed arrows > pointing to 1/2 moon transitions] =====

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#10. RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:26:00 -0600 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil in spark plug hole Regardless of the Bentley, every dealer and independent wrench I ever asked about installing valve cover gaskets told me not to use any sealant. 48K and 25K miles after I replacing the gaskets on two M/S-50 engines, neither one is leaking a drop of oil anywhere. That's good enough for me. -- alex f --- Jamie Howton <jhowton@fotofab.com> wrote: > "Installation: Remove Sealing debris from sealing faces of cylinder head > and cylinder head cover. Coat contact surfaces of joint with Drei Bond > 1209 (refer to BMW Parts Service)." > [Photo of front of engine with cylinder head cover removed arrows > pointing to front corners of head/block sealing surface] > > "Installation: Apply a thin and even sealing bead of Drei Bond 1209 > (Refer to BMW parts service) at transition to half-moon sections at rear > of cylinder head" > [Photo of rear of engine with cylinder head cover removed arrows > pointing to 1/2 moon transitions]

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