E36M3 #3557

Friday, January 23, 2004 10:41:12

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#1. Re: [E36M3] UPDATE: Bilstein PSS9's now available - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
#2. Re: [E36M3] UPDATE: Bilstein PSS9's now available - from Mark Dadgar
#3. mounting a stereo amp in an E36 - from marc@plante.com
#4. Re: [E36M3] mounting a stereo amp in an E36 - from Jay W. Hudson
#5. Re: [E36M3] Windshield -- which brand to buy? - from Jason Knight
#6. Re: [E36M3] mounting a stereo amp in an E36 - from Jay W. Hudson
#7. Oil in air intake, '86 325e - from Carey Probst
#8. RE: Failed Emissions....Now What?? - from Wesley A. Nicolas
#9. Weekend @ Sebring - from Reynaldo K Tong
#10. Re: sway bar sizes, e36 M3 and PSS9 - from Jim

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#1. Re: [E36M3] UPDATE: Bilstein PSS9's now available - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:42:33 -0600 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] UPDATE: Bilstein PSS9's now available Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> wrote: > > On Jan 22, 2004, at 12:57 PM, Dorffer, Rich wrote: > > Gee, how terribly "High Tech" of them. The adaptation consists > > of using the standard (i.e., non-Motorsport) sway bar links to > > attach to the control arm. This pretty much defeats the purpose. > > > > I wonder if they even know that the anti-sway bars also vary in > > size and the reduced effectiveness of attaching to the control > > arm (in the stock location particularly) versus the strut housing. > > It's probably not the big disaster that people here are thinking. > > The PSS9's come with stiffer springs than stock and you should be > controlling roll primarily with spring rates anyway. Roll bars > are for fine tuning, not gross adjustment. True, But that still leaves you with an stock size/effectiveness rear bar and stock sized but ineffective front bar => more oversteer. Just say 'NO' to all Bilstein products for E36M3. alex f

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#2. Re: [E36M3] UPDATE: Bilstein PSS9's now available - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:48:26 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] UPDATE: Bilstein PSS9's now available On Jan 22, 2004, at 8:42 PM, alex.fadeev@verizon.com wrote: >>> Gee, how terribly "High Tech" of them. The adaptation consists >>> of using the standard (i.e., non-Motorsport) sway bar links to >>> attach to the control arm. This pretty much defeats the purpose. >>> >>> I wonder if they even know that the anti-sway bars also vary in >>> size and the reduced effectiveness of attaching to the control >>> arm (in the stock location particularly) versus the strut housing. >> >> It's probably not the big disaster that people here are thinking. >> >> The PSS9's come with stiffer springs than stock and you should be >> controlling roll primarily with spring rates anyway. Roll bars >> are for fine tuning, not gross adjustment. > > True, > But that still leaves you with an stock size/effectiveness rear bar and > stock sized but ineffective front bar => more oversteer. My point is that if you choose your spring rates appropriately, it's not an issue. > Just say 'NO' to all Bilstein products for E36M3. > That's a bit extreme. For example, their Group N shocks are pretty awesome. - Mark

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#3.  mounting a stereo amp in an E36 - from marc@plante.com
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:59:42 -0500 (EST) From: marc@plante.com Subject: <Misc> mounting a stereo amp in an E36 I'm in the process of updating my car stereo amplifier in my E36 and wondering where people are mounting amplifiers for aftermarket installs. My last amplifier was mounted up against the driver's side of the trunk, outside of the carpet, with the crossovers for the front components mounted behind the carpet where the stock amp used to be. I found that the last amplifier's mounting interfered with access to tail light bulbs on the drivers' side. It also cut into the working width of the trunk just enough to make golf clubs an awkward proposition. has anyone come up with other spots to mount a moderate sized (50W) amp? I'm thinking up under the parcel shelf at the top of the trunk might be an alternative...mounted right side up with a little room for cooling. Thoughts? Marc Plante marc@plante.com

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#4. Re: [E36M3]  mounting a stereo amp in an E36 - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:41:20 -0800 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] <Misc> mounting a stereo amp in an E36 Group - Please forgive if this results in a double post. I've sent this response to Marc with pics. Since the list doesn't allow attachments, I'm sending it to the group sans pics. Just in case someone else may have interest in my response. Happy tunes - Jay > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:59:42 -0500 (EST) > From: marc@plante.com > Subject: <Misc> mounting a stereo amp in an E36 > > I'm in the process of updating my car stereo amplifier in my E36 and wondering where people are > mounting amplifiers for aftermarket installs. My last amplifier was mounted up against the driver's > side of the trunk, outside of the carpet, with the crossovers for the front components mounted > behind the carpet where the stock amp used to be. I found that the last amplifier's mounting > interfered with access to tail light bulbs on the drivers' side. It also cut into the working width > of the trunk just enough to make golf clubs an awkward proposition. > > has anyone come up with other spots to mount a moderate sized (50W) amp? I'm thinking up under the > parcel shelf at the top of the trunk might be an alternative...mounted right side up with a little > room for cooling. > > Thoughts? > > Marc Plante > marc@plante.com >

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Windshield -- which brand to buy? - from Jason Knight
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:11:56 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Windshield -- which brand to buy? Do the rules allow a lexan unit? Although I didn't find one in a quick google search, I have to imagine that they are available for a car that is raced as much as the e36 3 series. We shaved about 40 pounds by going from glass to thick lexan on the Camaro. After about 1.5 years (~15 - 20 events?) the lexan is still in great shape. Jason --- KLchmn@aol.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:48:37 EST > From: KLchmn@aol.com > Subject: Windshield -- which brand to buy? > > Gruppe, > > My race car needs a new windshield. It's pretty > pitted up and the new rules > don't allow that. > > Any suggestions? Remember, it's a race car so it > will take a few impacts > from rocks and other debris on a regular basis. > > Thanks, > > Kirk Lachman > Sin City Chapter > '95 M3 #21 I-stock > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#6. Re: [E36M3]  mounting a stereo amp in an E36 - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:16:37 -0800 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] <Misc> mounting a stereo amp in an E36 So, after that nice explanation, I forgot to add the text of my response. Some people should not be allowed to use computers :-) I'll try again. Marc - I built an amp rack above the battery compartment. I have 2 amps, mounted piggy-back, on the verticle board. I'll attach pics. You could do this on the other side too. Even with the sub box you can see, I have no problems getting my clubs and cart in the trunck. Except that I have to take my driver out of the bag and put it in separately. I wouldn't mount the amps under the package tray. Heat rises and the amps will cook in their own heat. You may notice a small silver box under my package tray. That's my XM receiver, not an amp. Not much of a heat generater. As far as your x-overs, I have mine mounted under the plastic sub-floor piece on the left side of the trunk. There's quite a lot of usable space under there for things that aren't too thick. I have 4 x-overs under there. Also, makes them fairly easy to get to if you want to tweak your system. If you free up the space where the factory amp goes, you may be able to mount your amp there. Jay > > Group - > > Please forgive if this results in a double post. I've sent this response to > Marc with pics. Since the list doesn't allow attachments, I'm sending it to > the group sans pics. Just in case someone else may have interest in my > response. > > Happy tunes - Jay > > > > > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:59:42 -0500 (EST) > > From: marc@plante.com > > Subject: <Misc> mounting a stereo amp in an E36 > > > > I'm in the process of updating my car stereo amplifier in my E36 and > wondering where people are > > mounting amplifiers for aftermarket installs. My last amplifier was > mounted up against the driver's > > side of the trunk, outside of the carpet, with the crossovers for the > front components mounted > > behind the carpet where the stock amp used to be. I found that the last > amplifier's mounting > > interfered with access to tail light bulbs on the drivers' side. It also > cut into the working width > > of the trunk just enough to make golf clubs an awkward proposition. > > > > has anyone come up with other spots to mount a moderate sized (50W) amp? > I'm thinking up under the > > parcel shelf at the top of the trunk might be an alternative...mounted > right side up with a little > > room for cooling. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > Marc Plante > > marc@plante.com > >

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#7. Oil in air intake, '86 325e - from Carey Probst
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:30:12 -0500 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Oil in air intake, '86 325e Since I trynot to drive my M3 in the winter I usually drive my 325e. I noticed lately a big puff of blue smoke indicating oil when I first start the car but nothing afterwards. While changing out the alternator I noticed a large puddle of oil in the rubber hose connecting the air intake to the throttle body. Anyone have an idea what would cause this and how to fix? Other than startup it doesn't burn oil and oil use is low for a car with 200k + miles. As usual, thanks in advance for all of the advice. Carey Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, '86 325e w/i cam BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters JC CAIed and Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced

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#8. RE: Failed Emissions....Now What?? - from Wesley A. Nicolas
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:13:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Wesley A. Nicolas" <wes@nicolas.org> Subject: RE: Failed Emissions....Now What?? I wanted to thank all those who gave suggestions on how I should pass emission...it ranged from replace the cat, clean air filter, change plugs, to just get the car really hot. Being a cheapskate, I just drove the car around for 40 minutes and revved the car at 2000 RPM for 20 minutes while I waited in line and it PASSED WITH FLYING COLORS (even with the temp at 19 degress F outside!). I told the attendant to not let up on the gas quickly (could lead to excess HC readings from unburnt fuel) so he said he would just do the test in 2nd gear. I looked at my previous failed test and the attendant shifted gears between the 15 MPH test and the 25 MPH test so that might have been the problem. Just for reference, car is a 1995 M3 with 139,000 miles, O2 sensor is 20K miles old, plugs are 15K miles old, with a clean JC Cold Air Intake. Moral of the story = Just be sure you car is good and hot before doing the emissions test......thanks for everyone's help and comments! Wes '95 M3

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#9. Weekend @ Sebring - from Reynaldo K Tong
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:29:35 -0800 (PST) From: Reynaldo K Tong <chinesebmw@yahoo.com> Subject: Weekend @ Sebring Anyone is going to be there? Rey __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

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#10. Re: sway bar sizes, e36 M3 and PSS9 - from Jim
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:29:30 -0800 From: Jim <rx3sp@lanset.com> Subject: Re: sway bar sizes, e36 M3 and PSS9 Somebody double check my math. Using a 13 inch long control arm (center of ball joint to center of ball joint) with a distance of 7 inches from inner pivot to the e36 (not M3) sway bar pickup, my math sez that moving a 23mm sway bar from the strut to the control arm would be like installing a 16.87mm front sway bar. I think I'm correct. I mathed using the motion ratio. (I figure if "party" is a verb, and "track" is now a verb, then "math" should be a verb to. Please call Faith Popcorn and let her know) Jay Morris

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