E36M3 #3579

Tuesday, February 03, 2004 17:31:12

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals - from Jamie Howton
#2. Front turn signals - from Richard Sperry
#3. Re: Oil Leak - Vanos? - from Shane Kleinpeter
#4. RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals - from Newman, Christopher
#5. RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals - from Newman, Christopher
#6. RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals - from Scott Yu
#7. MPG Adjustment for computer - from Kent L. Shephard
#8. Re: "Vanos dip" is what I call it - from Neil Maller
#9. Re: [E36M3] Welding Preparations - from James Clay
#10. smoked signals? - from Bob Sutterfield

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 14:31:27 -0600 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@fotofab.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals I recently bought one amber turn signal lense (with rubber gasket attached) from my local dealer. I _think_ that it was $38, although I could be wrong about the price. Regards Jamie Howton 2002 330i 1995 M3 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 1:50 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 11:37:14 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals At 08:50 AM 2/3/04, Newman, Christopher talked about: >By "assembly" I was referring to the orange/amber plastic, the bulb >holder, the gasket, and any other parts of the turn signal as a whole unit. From what I recall, the gasket is bonded to the plastic. I'm not sure, but I would imagine the orange/amber plastic could be obtained separately from the bulb holder. (A quick check of the ETK shows separate p/n's for the indicator and the bulb socket.) Jim Bassett ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#2. Front turn signals - from Richard Sperry
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 15:35:03 -0500 From: "Richard Sperry" <richardsperry@comcast.net> Subject: Front turn signals You are correct to wait until the weather warms up a bit. I snapped a tab off trying to get the thing out while it was cold. You could use a hair dryer or heat gun to warm things up. I prefer the clear lenses over both the smoked and yellow.

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#3. Re: Oil Leak - Vanos? - from Shane Kleinpeter
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 13:08:54 -0800 (PST) From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Oil Leak - Vanos? >I have recently noticed a small oil leak coming from >the area under the >Vanos unit and above the thermostat housing (94 >325). Given the arctic I had a leak here on the race car (325i) and it turned out that the bolt that goes through the lift hook had backed out. Tightening it cured the leak and all was good. YMMV. Shane K. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals - from Newman, Christopher
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:40:48 -0500 From: "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals This is starting to go deeper than I ever imagined. Anyway, I looked at some pictures of the turn signal on-line. I also contacted a dealer and a vendor. Only 2 points of reference, but they both said the gasket is bonded to the plastic, and that you have to buy the whole unit. You can't buy the orange plastic separately. If anyone has been down this road before and has information to the contrary, I'm interested to hear from you. But I guess it does make sense to have to buy the whole unit, because if you don't get a good seal between the gasket and the plastic, debris and water could get inside the turn signal. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- > Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 11:37:14 -0800 > From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals > > At 08:50 AM 2/3/04, Newman, Christopher talked about: > >By "assembly" I was referring to the orange/amber plastic, the bulb > >holder, the gasket, and any other parts of the turn signal as a whole > unit. > > From what I recall, the gasket is bonded to the plastic. I'm not sure, > but I would imagine the orange/amber plastic could be obtained > separately from the bulb holder. > > (A quick check of the ETK shows separate p/n's for the indicator and the > bulb socket.) > > Jim Bassett >

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#5. RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals - from Newman, Christopher
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:43:26 -0500 From: "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals Checking several vendors and dealers, I've seen from approximately $22 to $42. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 14:31:27 -0600 > From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@fotofab.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals > > I recently bought one amber turn signal lense (with rubber gasket > attached) from my local dealer. I _think_ that it was $38, although I > could be wrong about the price. >

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#6. RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals - from Scott Yu
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 13:50:51 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Yu <segascott@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals Christopher, I've seen posts for used amber corner lenses very regularly, in fact if you were to post "Wanted: amber corner lamp" up on bimmerforums, Turner, roadfly, etc I'm sure you'd get tons of responses. People who switch to clear/smoke/crystal are letting their old stock ambers go for a fraction of a what a new set costs from the dealer. hope this helps. --- "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> wrote: > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:40:48 -0500 > From: "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals > > > This is starting to go deeper than I ever imagined. > Anyway, I looked at some pictures of the turn signal > on-line. > I also contacted a dealer and a vendor. Only 2 > points of reference, but > they both said the gasket is bonded to the plastic, > and that you have to buy > the > whole unit. You can't buy the orange plastic > separately. If anyone has > been > down this road before and has information to the > contrary, I'm interested to > hear > from you. But I guess it does make sense to have to > buy the whole unit, > because > if you don't get a good seal between the gasket and > the plastic, debris > and water could get inside the turn signal. Thanks. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 11:37:14 -0800 > > From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front turn signals > > > > At 08:50 AM 2/3/04, Newman, Christopher talked > about: > > >By "assembly" I was referring to the orange/amber > plastic, the bulb > > >holder, the gasket, and any other parts of the > turn signal as a whole > > unit. > > > > From what I recall, the gasket is bonded to the > plastic. I'm not sure, > > but I would imagine the orange/amber plastic could > be obtained > > separately from the bulb holder. > > > > (A quick check of the ETK shows separate p/n's for > the indicator and the > > bulb socket.) > > > > Jim Bassett > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

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#7. MPG Adjustment for computer - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 14:07:09 -0800 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: MPG Adjustment for computer I have not tested this and will not be responsible for any problems. I dug this up from an archive. YMMV Undocumented Features. These work on OBC II cars: Simultaneously press the 1000 and the 1 button to get remaining fuel in liters (the car needs to be running). Simultaneously press the 1000 and the 10 button to get the version number. You should get something like: 4 .6TYP Where the 4 is the car/engine designator, the 6 is the chip firmware. That tells you the programming of the OBC, what coding plug is in it. Specific to each engine type, injector type, tire size, fuel tank and reserve capacity. And here's some more from Phil Marx.... OBC car/engine designators and firmware number. E30 318i 3-3 TYP E30 325e ('84-87) 3-8 TYP E30 325e ('88) 4-4 TYP E30 325i ('87) 3-1.2 TYP E30 325i ('88 on) 4-6 TYP E30 M3 3-1.1 TYP E28 528e ('85-87) 5-8 TYP E28 528e ('88) 5-1.3 TYP E28 535i 5-6 TYP E28 M5 6-4 TYP E24 635Csi/L6 ('85-87) 6-2 TYP E24 635Csi ('88 on) 6-6 TYP E24 M6 6-4 TYP E23 735i/L7 ('85-87) 7-4 TYP For what this bit of knowledge is worth to anyone....... No other test functions on that type OBC but you'd need a book to discuss the E32/4 type. - -Phil Marx BMWCCA #6021 The following is for newer OBC found in E36 cars for example: To determine if your OBC is eligible .. press 1000 and 10 together. you should see TEST NO . -- or something like that. Now, some of the functions are locked out -- I do NOT recommend messing with them and you do so at your own risk -- that said ... To unlock all functions .. press 1000 and 10 and at the TEST prompt enter 19 using the keys .. press SET/RES .. you should see LOCK:ON or something similar ... press the DATE key .. (today you'd see 08.20) and add the two numbers (day and month) together (today 28) Now enter the number you just calculated (28) and press SET/RES. TADA .. you have unlocked the secret functions ... To lock them back up .. press 1000 and 10 then enter 19, SET/RES now press SET/RES again .. it should show .. LOCK:ON again In general when I show a test enter it by pressing 1000 and 10 together then enter the number of the test with the numeric keys and press SET/RES to actually execute the test ... Test numbers for E36 OBC (Note: Joe this should also work for your 535!) Test no. Description 1 Display Test .. all LCDs and LEDs activate 2 Current Consumption in l/100km 3 Current Consumption in l/hour 4 Average Consumption (used to calc. Range) 5 Current Range 6 Not used .. 7 Average Fuel in Tank (l) 8 Current Speed (km/h) 9 System Voltage at terminal R 10 Country/Language 11 Units/ AM.PM 12 Average Speed (km/h) for calc. ETA 13 ETA 14 Date of software/mask of OBC 15 Production Diagnosis (??) 16 Production Diagnosis (??) 17 Display Vehicle Specific Data 18 Alarm Changeover (continuous v. intermittent) 19 LOCK/UNLOCK all functions 20 Correction Factor for OBC Fuel Consumption (SEE BELOW!) 21 Reset all defect codes, date and time ... activate by pressing SET/RES Note on test #20: The factor is used to correct the OBC Avg Fuel Consumption figure to reality. If your OBC is off a bit: fill UP totally, run tank down and refill; then calculate your Actual MPG. Now enter test 20 to get the old Correction Factor. NEW CF= OLD CF *(OBC MPG/Actual MPG) Enter the NEW CF using the numeric keys and hit SET/RES to store. PLEASE record your OLD CF so that IF you screw up you can always go back to what it was. Updates: This is from a European 1990 M5 owner (9/3/96): I have also found a deviation from the FAQ (which describes an E36 OBC) in the 'lock/unlock secret functions' of the E34 OBC: To unlock: * Press the DATE key, and add the day + month numbers * Press 1000 and 10 simultaneoulsy, then use 10 and 1 keys to enter test 19 * Press S/R once. You will now see 0000LOCK or similar * Use the 10 and 1 keys to enter the sum of day + month * Press S/R -- secret functions are unlocked... * Verify by entering test 19 again. Display should show FREE To lock: * Press 1000 and 10 simultaneoulsy, then use 10 and 1 keys to enter test 19 * Press S/R once. You will now see FREE or similar * Press the little square button (F/C) to the left of display * Verify by entering test 19 again. Display should be 0000LOCK. The procedure to show the version number also differs from the FAQ. On the E34 OBC, you need to press the 100 and 1 buttons simultaneously, to display the type/version (Mine shows '5-00TYP'). > >

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#8. Re: "Vanos dip" is what I call it - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 17:21:17 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: "Vanos dip" is what I call it from Taner Halicioglu <taner@e36m3.org> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:12:02 -0800 > Also, if you've ever felt like you get more midrange oomph at 2/3 throttle > than full, you're not dreaming.. there is an override function that will > DEactivate an otherwise activated VANOS based on a throttle position as a > function of RPMS.. > [...] > (This was actually found in an archive on bmw-m.net ;-) ) Taner brings up a very interesting point. Dyno charts represent engine performance at full throttle, and if we always drove foot to the floor, that would be fine. (OK, OK, for some of you hooligans it *is* fine!) But in the real world we're also looking for good part-throttle engine characteristics, and that's not something that shows up on dyno runs. This kind of good drivability is one of the things that makes JimC software so effective. Neil 96 M3

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Welding Preparations - from James Clay
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 17:46:30 -0500 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Welding Preparations Battery and ECU should be unplugged. Saying that, when it is my car (or not a customers) we don't sweat the ECU for small jobs. Whether it is an issue or not, a Motec box always gets unplugged - I am not risking that one. We have never had problems with any electronics, but better safe than sorry. James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com Engineered BMW Performance 540.639.9648

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#10. smoked signals? - from Bob Sutterfield
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:18:14 -0700 From: "Bob Sutterfield" <Bob@XC.Org> Subject: smoked signals? Christopher Newman wrote: > I've seen numerous photos of cars who have swapped > out their orange turn signals for white/clear. > But does anyone have pictures of an M3 with the Smoked turn signals? > (Preferably on a silver or other light-colored car, but > beggars can't be choosy). Thanks. I don't usually go in for purely cosmetic mods, but now I'm intrigued by the idea of smoked signals on the Cosmos car I'm considering. I've seen lots of vendors with clear front/sides/rear, and a few with "crystal" fronts. But I haven't seen any smoked fronts, even better all six front/sides/rear. Where are smoked signals available for sale? -- Bob Sutterfield '9? E36 ///M3 in the hunt '88 E28 535iS http://m535i.org #154 IHR FUNF '93 T4 EV MV Weekender BELUGA BMWCCA #169277 Rocky Mountain Chapter

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