E36M3 #3583

Friday, February 06, 2004 18:53:04

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#1. RE: [E36M3] 2nd request for wheel weight... - from DeBuhr
#2. Re: [E36M3] ITG filter maintenance - from Jim Bassett
#3. RE: [E36M3] ITG filter maintenance - from Jim Bassett
#4. RE: [E36M3] ITG filter maintenance - from dhogg
#5. Re: 2nd request for wheel weight... - from Neil Maller
#6. Re: ITG filter maintenance - from Neil Maller
#7. RE: ITG filter maintenance - from Jonathan Evans
#8. Help 2nd Request. Can anybody help, please???? - from Ed Yee
#9. Re: [E36M3] Help 2nd Request. Can anybody help, please???? - from Jason Knight
#10. Re: ITG filter maintenance -> now K&N - from Kent L. Shephard

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#1. RE: [E36M3] 2nd request for wheel weight... - from DeBuhr
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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 21:07:49 -0800 From: "DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 2nd request for wheel weight... Here's the link you want.Scroll down to the suspension section. http://www.eurospeed.org/e36m3faq.pdf Dave DeBuhr 98 M3/4 00 C5 Hardtop 94 Z28 73 240Z -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Kumler [mailto:jdkumler@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:50 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] 2nd request for wheel weight... Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:37:56 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Kumler <jdkumler@yahoo.com> Subject: 2nd request for wheel weight... I posted this several days ago, haven't anything yet. Anyone have any answers? Thanks again. Jeff 7. Wheel weight. - from Jeff KumlerTopDate: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 10:54:22 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Kumler <jdkumler@yahoo.com> Subject: Wheel weight. I am in the market for some new rims and tires. I was wondering if anyone knows how much a BMW M-Contour 8-1/2" rim weighs (now sold)? I remember someone once posted a link that had BMW rims weights listed, I did some searching but did not find it. Currently leaning towards SSR Silver Comps or BBS CH, but 6.5lbs more a wheel is a lot of weight to putting back on the car. But I really like the aesthetics of those BBS's. TIA, Jeff - Currently Shoeless M3. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#2. Re: [E36M3] ITG filter maintenance - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 21:59:38 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] ITG filter maintenance At 06:50 PM 2/5/04, Shelhart2@aol.com wrote: >I have the Conforti intake I purchased used with the ITG filter. I've heard >conflicting stories on using the oil. Can I wash it out and leave it >uncoated? No. Wash it in dish soap, the recoat it. Washing takes away most of the oil, so you need to recoat. >Some say the oil creates clumping and that it really isn't required. If it >needs a coating, where can I get it? I get my ITG filters from Eurosport High Performance - purveyors of all things Jim Conforti and a list sponsor. Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP/A5 - with clean & re-oiled ITG filter :-)

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#3. RE: [E36M3] ITG filter maintenance - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 22:01:06 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] ITG filter maintenance At 07:50 PM 2/5/04, Mel Silva wrote: >Speaking of these ITG filters for the Conforti setup, anyone know where I >can get a replacement without needing a line of credit? Mine is starting to >crumble on one side due to abrasion (the problem has since been fixed). >About what $$ can I expect to throw down for a replacement? Last I checked, you could get them from Eurosport High Performance (you know, the folks taht sell all the JimC stuff :-)). About $55, IIRC. Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP/A5

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#4. RE: [E36M3] ITG filter maintenance - from dhogg
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 06:43:51 -0500 From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] ITG filter maintenance Shel, This is a timely topic for me. The ITG is not a magic filter that you can install and forget, despite its lofty status on this list. My '95 track car is undergoing an engine rebuild as we speak (it was time - too many noises), and we found that it had a lot of fine scoring on the cylinder walls, plus fine grit in the throttle body. (The motor was in much worse shape than my mechanic and I realized, so it's no wonder I could no longer pass pesky J-stockers on the straights.) I run an ITG. I still think the ITG is a decent filter system, but I was only cleaning and oiling it once a season, which for a track car is clearly not enough. And don't do anything really stupid like I did and hook up an air duct to the front fog light opening to duct all the track dirt right to the filter. It breathes fine without it and it's bad for the motor. It probably sucks in hotter air down there close to the asphalt anyway. Looks racy, though. Just had a discussion with the Bimmerworld folks this week, and they said clean and oil monthly on a heavily used track car. Twice a year on a street car. Now, given that these folks sell, use, win with and reap the between-seasons consequences of these products, I'll follow their advice. If you don't want to oil yours, that's your decision. And just another data point, at the NCC PTG tour this year, Tom Milner was praising the longevity of their BMW motors, and giving partial credit to the excellent air filter system they run. I asked what they used, expecting of course that it was ITG, and he said - you ready for this? "K&N. I wouldn't run anything else." Hmmm... Dave Hogg #20 I-Stock

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#5. Re: 2nd request for wheel weight... - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 09:41:17 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: 2nd request for wheel weight... on 2/5/04 11:00 PM, Jeff Kumler <jdkumler@yahoo.com> wrote: > I am in the market for some new rims and tires. I was > wondering if anyone knows how much a BMW M-Contour > 8-1/2" rim weighs (now sold)? I remember someone once > posted a link that had BMW rims weights listed, I did > some searching but did not find it. According to BMW in the ETK (converted to lbs. by me, and rounded to 3 significant figures): M Contour (Style 23) 7.5" 10.13 kg 22.3 lbs 8.5" 10.65 23.5 and just for comparison, M Double-Spoke Forged (Style 24) 7.5" 8.86 kg 19.5 lbs 8.5" 9.58 21.1 Neil 96 M3 - M Double Spoke forged

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#6. Re: ITG filter maintenance - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 10:11:24 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: ITG filter maintenance on 2/5/04 11:00 PM, Shelhart2@aol.com wrote: > I have the Conforti intake I purchased used with the ITG filter. I've heard > conflicting stories on using the oil. Can I wash it out and leave it > uncoated? Some say the oil creates clumping and that it really isn't required. That would seem to defeat the purpose. This type of filter works by providing a labyrinth with very large surface area in the foam, and coating that with a sticky oil to which dust and dirt adhere as the airflow changes direction. Pores in the foam aren't small enough to work as a dry sieve, the way a stock paper filter does. > If it needs a coating, where can I get it? From vendors who sell the intake? I've found that the filter doesn't require a lot of maintenance, so haven't had to buy more oil yet. ITG's web site used to list at least one other oil that they said worked OK with their filters, but I can't find it now. Neil 96 M3 - ITG Filter with Eurosport/Conforti Cam System

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#7. RE: ITG filter maintenance - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:56:53 -0500 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: ITG filter maintenance Hey, a question that I can actually answer... Having designed a few air/oil filter flow benches for the automotive parts industry, I've gleaned a bit of information from the engineers who design them. What most of them have said is that foam coated with oil flows more air and traps more particles than a paper air filter. They went on to explain how the oil does this, but it was over my head. These guys designed filters for NASCAR, aftermarket, OEM, etc... The test bench used calibrated dust (I'd hate to be a dust inspector) at 1, 10, 100, 500 microns in size to spray at the filter during the test. The difference in the weight of the filter is how much dust was caught. Bottom line: YOU MUST OIL THE FOAM FILTERS to get the full effect of the filter. It will probably flow about the same with and without the oil, but I think I'd want the piece of mind that it's actually filtering the air. -Jonathan 95 M3

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#8. Help 2nd Request.  Can anybody help, please???? - from Ed Yee
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 17:52:11 -0500 From: "Ed Yee" <edyee@comcast.net> Subject: Help 2nd Request. Can anybody help, please???? I still need a simple set of measurements. Most importantly, the distance from the coolant tank to the front of the cylinder head. Pictures would also be great. See original post below. Thanks.. Ed 97M3/2 >I was recently involved in a minor collision to the front end. >Outwardly, the damage seems pretty minor. The other >party's insurance, Progressive, agreed to pay for all damages, >seeing as their client was coming out of a Taco Bell drive >thru access the wrong way. Anyway, I checked under the hood >this morning, just before dropping the car off at the shop for >the Progressive adjuster to look at. I could swear that the >radiator has been pushed towards the engine. The hood >closes perfectly. Of course, the adjuster doesn't think there's >anything wrong other than the bumper cover and rub strips. >Could someone measure the distance from the overflow tank >to the engine (front of cylinder head), from the metal cross >member to the engine side of the radiator (doesn't look like >any damage to this). I think that the radiator may have shifted >in its mounting. Good sharp pix of both sides of the radiator and >top view, especially the distance from the overflow tank to >the front of the cylinder head would be greatly appreciated. >Please email the pix and also respond privately to avoid >bandwidth waste. >I want to have technical data to back up my claim. Feel free >to include any data that you may think important. >Thanks in advance!!!!! >Ed >97 M3/2 >edyee@comcast.net

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Help 2nd Request.  Can anybody help, please???? - from Jason Knight
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 16:25:03 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Help 2nd Request. Can anybody help, please???? Ed, I uploaded some shots that my brilliant wife told me that I should include the actual measurements in. They're on a website here: http://www.z28racergirl.com/images/P2060010.JPG http://www.z28racergirl.com/images/P2060011.JPG http://www.z28racergirl.com/images/P2060012.JPG If you want some other shots I've got a camera and an M3 with a blown power steering hose that ain't goin' nowhere for a couple of days. Jason --- Ed Yee <edyee@comcast.net> wrote: > Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 17:52:11 -0500 > From: "Ed Yee" <edyee@comcast.net> > Subject: Help 2nd Request. Can anybody help, > please???? > > I still need a simple set of measurements. Most > importantly, > the distance from the coolant tank to the front of > the cylinder > head. Pictures would also be great. See original > post below. > > Thanks.. > Ed > 97M3/2 > > >I was recently involved in a minor collision to the > front end. > >Outwardly, the damage seems pretty minor. The > other > >party's insurance, Progressive, agreed to pay for > all damages, > >seeing as their client was coming out of a Taco > Bell drive > >thru access the wrong way. Anyway, I checked under > the hood > >this morning, just before dropping the car off at > the shop for > >the Progressive adjuster to look at. I could swear > that the > >radiator has been pushed towards the engine. The > hood > >closes perfectly. Of course, the adjuster doesn't > think there's > >anything wrong other than the bumper cover and rub > strips. > >Could someone measure the distance from the > overflow tank > >to the engine (front of cylinder head), from the > metal cross > >member to the engine side of the radiator (doesn't > look like > >any damage to this). I think that the radiator may > have shifted > >in its mounting. Good sharp pix of both sides of > the radiator and > >top view, especially the distance from the overflow > tank to > >the front of the cylinder head would be greatly > appreciated. > >Please email the pix and also respond privately to > avoid > >bandwidth waste. > > >I want to have technical data to back up my claim. > Feel free > >to include any data that you may think important. > > >Thanks in advance!!!!! > >Ed > >97 M3/2 > > >edyee@comcast.net > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#10. Re: ITG filter maintenance -> now K&N - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 16:31:00 -0800 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: ITG filter maintenance -> now K&N So while we are talking filters. I had a K&N drop in for my E30 M3. Any suggestions? Kent

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